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  • in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774263
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    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    St. Colman’s Roman Catholic Trust Limited

    Returns to the Companies Registration Office, received on 9 August 2009:

    This is the announcement we have been expecting for several years now, i.e., the departure of Bishop Magee as a Director of the St Colman’s Roman Catholic Trust. While we note that Denis Murphy, in presenting the chairman’s report placed on record a debt of gratitude to fellow directors Denis O’Callaghan and James O’Donnell, no such debt was registered in respect of Bishop Magee. Indeed, his departure is distinguished by an eerie silence.

    Given the present composition of the Trust, there are only three more resignations thta we have to wait for before this glorious body is sent to commercial Valhalla:

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774242
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    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    Well, ladies and gentlemen, it is that time of year again (in fact a little anticipated) when we all have the pleasure of reading he returns made to the Companies Registration Office by St. Colman’s Roman Catholic Trust Limited. This, as you will recall is the body which raises “funds for the restoration of St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork”. This year’s report is presented by Denis Murphy, the milk person from Mallow, but it remains ambivelant whether he is presenting the report as chairman of the Trust or not. It is dated 8 July 2010 – a fatal day for on that very day Bishop John Magee resigned as chairman of the Trust with immediate effect.

    The boldest statement in the report (which, we must admit, is of fig-leaf dimensions) is that the Trust “intends to continue in its efforts to raise funds for the completion of the restoration“. It was well that this was stated as an intention. As a pious aspiration it might have been better – especially when we look at the results of the fund raising efforts for the financial year ended 31 December 2009. An enterprising boy would have done better for his confirmation.

    Briefly, the fundraising activities amounted to 28,036 euro in bank interest; 40,000 euro from the Department of the Environment, heritage and Local Government, and 70, 000 euro from The Heritage Council. No donations, bequests or endowments are reported. So, that is the sum total of the efforts “to raise funds for the completion of the restoration of St Colman’s Cathedral” to year’s end 2009.

    Praxiteles has to say that the bank interest received is pretty miserable – even for the present straightened circumstances. Perhaps the Trust might try a Post Office stamp account – the interest return could not be worse.

    In the same period, 377,190 euro was spend on works to th Cathedral – presumably to stop the water coming in as a result of the “restoration” being pursued by the Trust. This left the Trust with a negative situation in the amount of 239, 154 euro which was subvented from reserves.

    At the opening of the year, the rserve amounted to 1,093,274 euro. Subvenbting the works’ loss left the reserve at 854,120 euro at year’s end. However, as contingency item for 190,461 is charged to the reserve (this is money that may have to be repaid to the Heritage Council in the event of a breach of covenant made with the Heritage Council as a condition for funding received in the 1990s) it looks as though the reserve fund now really stands at 673,659 euro. Bearing in mind that the report commissioned for the Heritage Council states that some 1 million will have to be spent simply to make the building waterproof after the botched restoration Praxiteles is beginning to see a red coloured horizon – especially as the general population in Cork at present would not subscribe much to an appeal after the last run around the got.

    More sad news: The Directors of St Colman’s Catholic Trust have now shrunk to three: brian Carroll, Denis Murphy, and the intrepid Fran Walley. They do not seem to have a chairman at the moment. Denis Murphy, in his report, wishes to place on record “our debt of gratitude to the contributions made by The Ven. Archdeacon WilliamTwohig (RIP) and to Rt Rev Mgr Denis O’Callaghan and Rt Rev Mgr James O’Donnell, who both retired on age grounds“. Everybody, I think, realizes that that is Alic in Wonderland and it remains to be seen whether the “debit of gratitude” will be re-iterated in next year’s report. Nobody has come on to the board of directors – clearly signs of the times and of trouble convincing business persons of the worthwhileness of this particular enterprise.

    Praxiteles is beginning to wonder how a company can continue to operate with three directors – especially when one has to act the chairman. As it is, it looks more than probable that there is a winding-up on the horizon – but will anyone be left to propose second and vote for it at a board meeting? Perhaps a trip to the commercial court might resolve the matter in the end?

    If anybody thought that the financial crisis was over, he should think again having purused this awful set of results:

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774262
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    St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork

    Well, ladies and gentlemen, it is that time of year again (in fact a little anticipated) when we all have the pleasure of reading he returns made to the Companies Registration Office by St. Colman’s Roman Catholic Trust Limited. This, as you will recall is the body which raises “funds for the restoration of St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork”. This year’s report is presented by Denis Murphy, the milk person from Mallow, but it remains ambivelant whether he is presenting the report as chairman of the Trust or not. It is dated 8 July 2010 – a fatal day for on that very day Bishop John Magee resigned as chairman of the Trust with immediate effect.

    The boldest statement in the report (which, we must admit, is of fig-leaf dimensions) is that the Trust “intends to continue in its efforts to raise funds for the completion of the restoration“. It was well that this was stated as an intention. As a pious aspiration it might have been better – especially when we look at the results of the fund raising efforts for the financial year ended 31 December 2009. An enterprising boy would have done better for his confirmation.

    Briefly, the fundraising activities amounted to 28,036 euro in bank interest; 40,000 euro from the Department of the Environment, heritage and Local Government, and 70, 000 euro from The Heritage Council. No donations, bequests or endowments are reported. So, that is the sum total of the efforts “to raise funds for the completion of the restoration of St Colman’s Cathedral” to year’s end 2009.

    Praxiteles has to say that the bank interest received is pretty miserable – even for the present straightened circumstances. Perhaps the Trust might try a Post Office stamp account – the interest return could not be worse.

    In the same period, 377,190 euro was spend on works to th Cathedral – presumably to stop the water coming in as a result of the “restoration” being pursued by the Trust. This left the Trust with a negative situation in the amount of 239, 154 euro which was subvented from reserves.

    At the opening of the year, the rserve amounted to 1,093,274 euro. Subvenbting the works’ loss left the reserve at 854,120 euro at year’s end. However, as contingency item for 190,461 is charged to the reserve (this is money that may have to be repaid to the Heritage Council in the event of a breach of covenant made with the Heritage Council as a condition for funding received in the 1990s) it looks as though the reserve fund now really stands at 673,659 euro. Bearing in mind that the report commissioned for the Heritage Council states that some 1 million will have to be spent simply to make the building waterproof after the botched restoration Praxiteles is beginning to see a red coloured horizon – especially as the general population in Cork at present would not subscribe much to an appeal after the last run around the got.

    More sad news: The Directors of St Colman’s Catholic Trust have now shrunk to three: brian Carroll, Denis Murphy, and the intrepid Fran Walley. They do not seem to have a chairman at the moment. Denis Murphy, in his report, wishes to place on record “our debt of gratitude to the contributions made by The Ven. Archdeacon WilliamTwohig (RIP) and to Rt Rev Mgr Denis O’Callaghan and Rt Rev Mgr James O’Donnell, who both retired on age grounds“. Everybody, I think, realizes that that is Alic in Wonderland and it remains to be seen whether the “debit of gratitude” will be re-iterated in next year’s report. Nobody has come on to the board of directors – clearly signs of the times and of trouble convincing business persons of the worthwhileness of this particular enterprise.

    Praxiteles is beginning to wonder how a company can continue to operate with three directors – especially when one has to act the chairman. As it is, it looks more than probable that there is a winding-up on the horizon – but will anyone be left to propose second and vote for it at a board meeting? Perhaps a trip to the commercial court might resolve the matter in the end?

    If anybody thought that the financial crisis was over, he should think again having purused this awful set of results:

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774240
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    Very unusual that someone as successful & accomplished as Patrick Byrne has no visible headstone at his burial site .

    Is there any possibility that he might have left instructions for no monument to be erected?

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774260
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    Very unusual that someone as successful & accomplished as Patrick Byrne has no visible headstone at his burial site .

    Is there any possibility that he might have left instructions for no monument to be erected?

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774237
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    @Brendan Grimes wrote:

    Patrick Byrne is buried in plot XA34 garden. It is ironical that there is no mark or stone to indicate his grave given that he was the architect for the cemetery. I think we need to do something to remedy this.

    How about opening a subscription list?

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774257
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    @Brendan Grimes wrote:

    Patrick Byrne is buried in plot XA34 garden. It is ironical that there is no mark or stone to indicate his grave given that he was the architect for the cemetery. I think we need to do something to remedy this.

    How about opening a subscription list?

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774234
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    Chapel of the Loreto Convent, Fermoy, Co. Cork

    The interior of the Chapel of the Loreto Convent, Fermoy, Co.- Cork, by Pugin and Ashlin and dating from 1869. It was built after the partnership had gothicised the nearby parish church.

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774254
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    Chapel of the Loreto Convent, Fermoy, Co. Cork

    The interior of the Chapel of the Loreto Convent, Fermoy, Co.- Cork, by Pugin and Ashlin and dating from 1869. It was built after the partnership had gothicised the nearby parish church.

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774232
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    The architects J. J. McCarthy and Patrick Byrne are both interred in Glasnevin as is the stonemason James Pearse.

    So are G. C. Ashlin and Thomas Coleman.

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774228
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    Edward Walsh, the notable historian of Irish-Latin American affairs and friend of Praxiteles, has also been on the Leeson trail in Argentina. Here is a fascinating account of the perambulations of John Leeson’s son:

    http://www.irlandeses.org/0811walsh.htm

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774225
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    Jean-François-Thérèse Chalgrin (1739-1811)

    01_Jean-François_Chalgrin.jpg

    Some notes on this architect noted, among other things, for his Arc de Triomph at the Etoile in Paris:

    http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Fran%C3%A7ois-Th%C3%A9r%C3%A8se_Chalgrin

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774224
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    St- Philippe-du-Roule, Paris

    Some further notes on St-Philippe-du Roule, Paris VIII:

    http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89glise_Saint-Philippe-du-Roule

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774223
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    Thanks for the lovely picture of Adam and Eve’s, Dublin.

    It s interesting from a number of poits of view:

    1. Cleraly, there was a tradition of using hangings -at least in this church – in Ireland. As we can see, there are quite elaborate and reminiscent of those used in the Roman churches – a few of which continue to use them, most notably the Chiesa Nuova.

    2. Liturgically, this is an excellent example of the Missa Pontificalis ad faldistorio, i.e. the High Mass celebrated by a bishop who is not the bishop of the diocese in which he is celebrating or who is an auxiliary bishop in the diocese where he celebrates – hence, he is not entitled usually to the use of a throne and therefore uses the faldstool which, as we saw much earlier in this thread, has its origins in the faldstool of the Roman Consul which indicated jurisdiction. It is clear from the potograph that the ceremonies are carried out to a high standard and include all of the ministers necessary for this form of the Mass. As far as Praxiteles is aware, the last time such was celebrated in Dublin was on 14 July 2010 at St Kevin’s in Harrington Street.

    3. Does anyone know how much of the sanctuary survives?

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774221
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    Brendan Grimes also published this in 1998:

    ISBN is:

    ISBN 13: 9780716526186 ISBN 10: 0716526182

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774218
    Praxiteles
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    Has this lecture appeared in book form?

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774216
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    From the Dictionary of National Biorgaphy, Vol. 43, London (1895) , pp. 66-69.

    PAIN, JAMES (1779P-1877), the
    younger, architect and builder, was son of
    James Pain, and grandson of William Pain
    [q. v.] Born about 1779 at Isleworth in
    Surrey, he was apprenticed with a younger
    brother.GEORGE RICHARD PAIN (1793?-! 838),
    who was born in London about 1793, to John
    Nash [q. v.], architect, and subsequently the
    two brothers entered into business together
    as architects and builders. George exhibited
    at the Royal Academy designs in the Gothic
    style in 1810-14, while living at 1 Diana
    Place, Fitzroy Square. About 1817, when
    Nash designed Loughcooter Castle, co. Gal-
    way, for Charles Vereker, viscount Gort, he
    recommended the brothers as builders. They
    consequently went to Ireland. James settled
    at Limerick and George at Cork. While
    practising as architects they often carried
    their own designs into execution. James
    was appointed architect to the board of first-
    fruits for the province of Munster, where a
    large number of churches and glebe-houses
    were built, altered, or repaired by him and
    his brother. Their churches of Buttevant,
    Midleton, and Carrigaline, with a tower and
    spire, are among the best specimens of the
    Gothic architecture of the period. . The man-
    sion, Mitchelstown Castle, near Cork, for
    the Earl of Kingston, is the largest and per-
    haps the best of their designs ; it is in the late
    thirteenth-century style. An engraving ap-
    pears in Neale’s ‘ Seats of Noblemen and
    Gentlemen,’ 4to, 1825, 2nd ser. vol. ii.

    Others of their works were the gaols at
    Limerick and Cork ; Bael’s, Ball’s, or Bawl’s
    bridge, consisting of one arch, over the
    abbey stream at Limerick (1831); Thomond
    bridge, over the river Shannon at Limerick,
    between 1839 and 1843; and Athlunkard
    bridge, about a mile distant, consisting of
    five large elliptic arches.

    George died in 1838, aged 45, and was
    buried in the churchyard of St. Mary, Shan-
    don, co. Waterford. James retired, and died
    in Limerick on 13 Dec. 1877, in his ninety-
    eighth year, and was buried at the cathedral
    of that city.

    [Neale (as above) ; local information ; Dic-
    tionary of Architecture of the Architectural
    Publication Society, which adds the names of
    many other buildings.] W. P-H.

    PAIN, WILLIAM (1730P-1790?), writer
    on architecture and joinery, published a
    series of practical treatises. The earliest
    was ‘ The Builder’s Companion and Work-
    man’s General Assistant,’ 92 plates, fol.
    1759, chiefly dealing with work in the Chip-
    pendale style. This was followed by ‘ The
    Builder’s Pocket Treasure ; or, Palladio de-
    lineated and explained,’ 44 plates, 8vo, 1763 ;
    and compilations of the same description ap-
    peared in 1774, 1780, and 1782. The British
    Palladio; or, Builder’s General Assistant,’
    &c., 42 plates, fol. 1785, was reissued in 1793,
    1797, and 1804. The date 1770, usually
    assigned to Pain’s death, is obviously too-
    early. A William Paine died in the Isle of”
    Thanet on 27 July 1771 (Gent. Mag. 1771,
    p. 378), but the architectural writer must
    have died after 1790. ‘ W. Pain,’ of 1 Diana
    Place, Fitzroy Square, who exhibited at the
    Royal Academy designs in the Gothic style
    in 1802 and 1807, was possibly a son.

    Another son, James, a builder and sur-
    veyor, assisted his father in his latest pub-
    lication, and left at least four sons, three of
    whom (Henry, James [q. v.], and George
    Richard) were pupils of the architect John
    Nash.

    [Dictionary of Architecture; Catalogue of
    Royal Academy.] W. P-H.

    PAINE. [See also PAIX and PAYNE.]

    _PAINE or PAYNE, JAMES (1725-
    1789), architect, born in 1725, is said to-
    have become a student in the St. Martin’s
    Lane Academy, where he attained the power
    of drawing the figure and ornament with
    success (Diet, of Arch.} He states tha^ he
    began as a youth the study of architecture
    under Thomas Jersey (d. 1751), and at the
    age of nineteen was entrusted with the con-
    struction of Nostell Priory in the West
    Riding of Yorkshire for Sir Rowland Winne,
    bart., ‘after a design seen by his client during
    his travels on the continent ‘ (NEALE, Seats,.
    vol. iv. ; WOOLFE and GANDOX, VitruviusBri-
    tannicus, fol., London* 1767, vol. i. pi. 57-63, or
    pi. 70-3). About 1740 he erected two wings-
    at Cusworth House, Yorkshire, for Williami
    AVrightson (NEALE, Seats, vol. v. ; WooLFE r
    i. pi. 89-92), and he refers to ‘several gentle-
    men’s buildings in Yorkshire’ as executed
    prior to 1744, when he was employed to design
    and build (as was then the practice with
    architects) the mansion-house at Doncaster
    This was completed in 1748 ; and he published
    a description, with twenty-one plates (fol.,
    London, 1751).

    Paine was, until 1772, a director of the
    Society of Artists of Great Britain, and nu-
    merous designs by him appear in the society’s
    ‘ Catalogues’ from 1761 onwards. But the
    fullest account of his work appears in his
    ‘ Plans, &c., of Noblemen and Gentlemen’*
    Residences executed in various Counties, and
    also of ‘stabling, bridges, public and private
    temples, and other garden buildings.’ The
    first volume or part was issued in 1767, the
    second part in 1783, together with a second
    edition of the first, and the book contained
    altogether 175 fine plates. Among the plans
    are the stabling and some bridges at Chats-
    worth for the Duke of Devonshire (1758-
    1763); Cowick Hall, Yorkshire, for Viscount
    Downe ; Gosforth, Northumberland, for Ch.
    Brandling, esq. ; Melbourne (now known as
    Dover) House, Whitehall, for Sir M. Feather-
    stonhaugh, bart. ; Belford, Northumberland,
    for Abraham Dixon, esq. ; Serlby, Notting-
    hamshire, for Viscount Galway ; Stockeld
    Park, Yorkshire, for William Middleton, esq. ;
    Lumley Castle at Sandbeck, Yorkshire, for
    the Earl of Scarborough (WATTS, Seats of
    the Nobility, $c., 1779-90, pi. x.) ; Bywell,
    Northumberland, for William Fenwick, esq. ;
    Axwell Park, Durham, for Sir Thomas Cla-
    vering, bart. ; Heath, Yorkshire, for Mrs.
    Hopkinson ; St. Ires, Yorkshire, for Benja-
    min Ferrand, esq. ; Thorndon Hall, Essex, for
    Lord Petre (NEALE, 2nd ser. vol. ii. ; WRIGHT,
    Esse.r, vol. ii. ; WATTS, pi. 17) ; Wardour
    Castle, Wiltshire, for Henry, eighth lord
    Arundel (NEALE, vol. iii. ; Builder for 1858,
    xvi. 548) ; Stapleton Park, Yorkshire, for
    Edward Lascelles, esq., afterwards Earl of
    Harewood (NEALE, vol. iv.) ; Brocket Hall,
    Hertfordshire, for Sir Matthew Lamb, after-
    wards Lord Melbourne (ib. 2nd ser. vol. v.);
    Hare Hall, near Romford, Essex, for J. A.
    Wallenger, esq. (WRIGHT, Esse.r, vol. ii. ;
    NEALE, vol. i.) ; Shrubland Hall, Suffolk ;
    and other smaller works. In London he de- j
    signed Lord Petre’s house in Park Lane ; Dr. :
    Heberden’s house, and another for the Hon. i
    Thomas Fitzmaurice, both in Pall Mall. His
    work also included bridges at Richmond and
    at Chillington, Staffordshire, besides several !
    ceilings and ‘ chimneypieces,’ one being for (
    Sir Joshua Reynolds, P.R.A., in Leicester
    Square, two at Melbourne House, and
    another in Park Lane. These were of his
    own peculiar design and execution (‘ Letters
    of Sir W. Chambers, 1769/ in Journal of
    Royal Institute of British Architects, 1892,
    p. 4). The bridges of Chertsey (BRATLEY,
    Surrey, ii. 231), Walton, and Kew (FAULK-
    NER, Brentford, p. 168) were built in 1783
    from his designs, and at the same time
    Salisbury Street in the Strand was laid out
    by him.

    His plans are well arranged and commo-
    dious, and the buildings soundly constructed ;
    but some of the designs are meagre imita-
    tions of the Italian school. Gwilt, in his
    memoir of Sir William Chambers (Civil
    Architecture, 1825, p. xlix), remarks that
    ‘ Paine and Sir Robert Taylor divided the
    practice of the profession between them until
    Robert Adam entered the list, and distin-
    guished himself by the superiority of his
    taste in the nicer and more delicate parts
    of decoration.’

    Paine held the appointment under the
    king’s board of works of clerk of the works
    (or resident architect) at Greenwich Hospital,
    and held a like post afterwards at Richmond
    New Park and Newmarket. Finally he was
    attached to the board of works as ‘ architect
    to the king,’ but was displaced in 1782, very
    soon after his appointment, by Burke’s Re-
    form Bill, without gratuity or pension. In
    1771 Paine was elected president of the So-
    ciety of Artists of Great Britain. ‘ Chambers
    and Paine, who were leading members in the
    society, being both architects, were equally
    desirous that the funds should be laid out in
    the decoration of some edifice adapted to the
    objects of the institution. This occasioned
    much debate, acrimony, and rivalry among
    their respective partisans ‘ (GALT, Life of
    West, ii. 35). At length Paine designed for
    the society the academy or exhibition rooms,
    near Exeter Change, Strand, and on 23 July
    1771 laid the first stone (Annual Register^.
    The exhibition in the new buildings was
    opened on 1 1 May 17 72, when an ‘ ode,’ written
    by E. Lloyd, with music by W. Hook, was
    recited (given in ib, p. 206). The building
    was soon afterwards sold, and in 1790 was
    converted into the Lyceum Theatre. In
    1764 Paine was living in a spacious house in
    St. Martin’s Lane, which he had built for
    himself; he removed in 1766 to Salisbury
    Street, and about!785to Addlestone orSayes
    Court, near Chertsey, to which he is said to
    have made additions in the Elizabethan style ;
    there he is stated to have formed a fine col-
    lection of drawings. In 1783 he was high
    sheriff for Surrey, and in the commission of
    the peace for Essex, Middlesex, and Surrey.
    Some months preceding his death he retired
    to France, and died there about November
    1789, in the seventy-third year of his age (ib.
    1789, p. 232). A son James is separately
    noticed. Of his two daughters, the younger
    was married after 1777 to Tilly Kettle [q. v.]
    the painter.

    At the South Kensington Museum there
    are two volumes of drawings, one having
    twenty-three examples of rosettes, c., and
    the other having forty-four examples of orna-
    ments, vases, mirror-frames, &c., both of
    which may be attributed to Paine.

    There is a stippled portrait of Paine dated
    1798 ; a similar plate by P. Falconet, en-
    graved in 1769 by D. P. Pariset; a small
    one by F. Hayman, engraved by C. Grignion,
    prefixed to his publication of 1751. There is
    also the brilliant picture of Paine and his son
    James by Sir Joshua Reynolds, painted in
    June 1764. This is now in the University
    gallery at Oxford, the son having bequeathed
    it to the Bodleian Library. It was engraved
    in 1764 by J. Watson, and shows a scroll
    inscribed ‘ Charter of the Society of Artists ; ‘
    but this was only granted 26 Jan. 1765 (PYE,
    Patronage, 1845, pp. 116, 136).

    [Dictionary of Architecture; Gent. Mag. 1789,
    ii. 1153; Redgrave’s Diet, of Artists ; Catalogues
    of the Society of Artists of Great Britain and
    of the Royal Academy of Arts ; Pye’s Patronage
    of British Art, 8vo, 1845 ; Literary Panorama,
    1807-8, iii. 809, 1013, 1226.] W. P-H.

    PAINE, JAMES (d. 1829 ?), architect,
    only son of James Paine the elder [q. v.],
    was instructed at the St. Martin’s Lane
    Academy, and exhibited ‘ stained drawings ‘
    at the Spring Gardens exhibitions of 1761,
    1764, and 1790. He then appears to have
    travelled in Italy. On his return he sent to
    the exhibitions of the Royal Academy of
    Arts architectural drawings in 1781, 1788,
    and in 1788 an ‘ Intended Bridge across
    Lough Foyle at Derry.’ In 1791 he was one
    of the original fifteen members of the ‘Archi-
    tects’ Club’ (MULVANY, Life of Gandon,
    1847).

    His father, by his will dated February
    1786, probably left his son independent,
    which may account for his name not being
    found in later ‘ Catalogues ‘ of the Royal
    Academy. In the library at the South Ken-
    sington Museum is a large volume with
    ‘ J. Paine, jun. Archt. Rome, 1774,’ on the
    outside, containing fifty-seven drawings of
    studies at Rome, all signed by him, being
    plans of four palaces, views at Albano and
    Tivoli, measured drawings of the Ponte
    Rotto, and a number of statues with their
    measurements. In 1788 he had residences
    in both North End, Hammersmith, and
    Salisbury Street. On 12 March 1830 Mr.
    Christie sold the pictures, a few casts, books
    of architecture, &c., ‘the property of J.
    Paine, Esq., Architect (deceased).’ Among
    them were the account and other books by
    Nicholas Stone, sen.[q. v.],and his son, Henry
    Stone [q. v.], formerly belonging to Vertue
    (quoted in WALPOLE’S Anecdotes), and now
    preserved in Sir John Soane’s Museum. His
    portrait was included with his father’s in
    the picture painted by Sir Joshua Reynolds
    in 1764.

    [Dictionary of Architecture ; Sale Catalogue
    in Sir John Soane’s Museum.] W. P-H.

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774215
    Praxiteles
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    Presumably, if permission for such works was refused in 2007 that refusal still obtains or would be re-iterated in teh event of a further submission to Waterford City Council or to ABP. Has anyone or group of persons thought of doing this?

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    The wood-work is in wallnut.

    Here is the bit about monastic esceticism:

    http://en.gloria.tv/?media=93330

    in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #774209
    Praxiteles
    Participant

    The Abbey Chruch of St Othmar and St Gallus, Sankt Gallen

    The main bell:

    Full peal:

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