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Rhabanus!
Thanks very much for that informative commentary on the statue of Our Lady a top the portico of St. Mary’s, Pope’s Quay, in Cork.
Clearly, when you mention it, the source is quite obviously the statue atop the column in the Piazza di Spagna in Rome. This was inaugerated on the feast of the Nativity of Our Lady (8 September) 1857 by B. Pope Pius IX to commemorate the definition of the dogma of the Immaculate Conception which had been proclaimed in 1854. The architect for the work was Luigi Poletti. The column is an antique one of cippolino marble discovered in the Campo Marzo in 1777. It seems that it had never been used since it was discovered in the remains of a marble workshop dating to classical times.
While St. Mary’s was built in the 1830s, the Portico was not added until the 1860s.
Sorry to hear that the copy at Notre Dame has lost its crown of 12 stars, the Corona Stellarum Duodecim, which is taken directly from the famous passage of St. John’s Book of the Apocalypse, chapter 12:
“12 1 Et signum magnum apparuit in c
I am posting a picture of the statue of Our Lady on the facade of St. Mary’s, Pope’s Quay, Cork.
Can anyone help in identifying the sculptor? I believe he was a Dublin sculptor.
@jungle wrote:
One of the great frustrations in Cork has always been that things get done at the same time as other regional cities. I’m sure we’ll one day see a Cork Bus 30 years after the creation of Dublin Bus. On the same day, Galway Bus and Limerick Bus will come into existence. While, we don’t have the same needs as Dublin, the size of the city suggests it should be given a status between the other regional cities and Dublin.
I might fire off a letter to the local TDs asking them if they’ll put in a Dail question about whether the minister thinks it would be a good idea to have transport in Cork organised more locally.
But Jungle, does the minister think?
All that outdoor seating in carey’s lane looks very very continental in the flogging rain of January!
@Rhabanus wrote:
The first image makes sense. Beautiful play of light from the north window on the sanctuary. Marble is most worthy of the altars. I admire the graceful sanctuary lamp hanging directly in front of the tabernacle. The statues of the Sacred Heart and Our Lady, each in its static pose, fit the classical architecture.
Not pleased, however, about the stations of the cross running along the galleries. In my view they ought to go along the walls, not the balconies. I find them rather distracting in the first image and downright silly running along the choir loft in the second image.
Why was the organ case not arranged in such a way as to admit the light from the window in the west wall?
Are plans afoot to massacre this lovely house of God, too, and replace it with an Abomination of Desolation like St Mary’s Oratory for Embalmed Shakers?
I could pray in Dunmanway, but more fervently without the distraction of the stations of the cross hanging off the balconies. I’ll wager that the original stations were oil paintings that fit harmoniously on the walls of the church.
Have a chat with the rector there, will you?
I agree that the stations of the Cross look odd hanging from the gallery rails. they could easily be distributed throughout the available wall-space in the church.
A further note on John Hogan:
Attached is a picture of the front panel depicting the Last Supper from the original High Altar of the Cathedral of St. Mary and St. Anne’s in Cork. The panel is by John Hogan and is currentlyon exhibit in the Crawford Gallery.
@Fearg wrote:
Book makes out that the 19th century artists must “not have been educated men”.. I would be sceptical as well..
Cabosh the dim dope who wrote that bit of crap!
I really wonder whether someone working in the early 21st. century is in a position to recognise spelling mistakes in the Lain inscriptions of the late 19th century. Put the other way around, is someone in the late 19th century working on Latin inscriptions likely to have made mistakes? I also wonder whether their 21st. century successors are aware of the complex transmission history of several texts of even the Sixto-Clementine edition of the Vulgate from which these inscriptions are almst certainly taken? However, we shall see.
As to caboshing poor Archbishop Brady, I should have thought it more than enough to leave him without the galero!
Who, other than our corresponding fiend Brian Quinn, tendered a project for the re-reordering (it is beginning to sound a bit like regicideicide) ?
Were submissions judged by a committee?
What august personages sat on that committee -if there were one?
What criteria were used to access the submissions made?
[can we have the publishing details of this latest book?]
A book not to be missed, although some of the photographs could be better:
http://www.four-courts-press.ie/cgi/bookshow.cgi?file=highVictorian.xml
@Rhabanus wrote:
Thank you, Praxiteles, for providing the photos from #271 on page 11 of this thread, and to Gianlorenzo for bringing them to our notice. If this is how the future clergy of Ireland are being forced to worship and to think liturgically, then all I can say, folks is, “You got trouble … in River City ….”
By the way, I came across this statement on one of the pages of the website of the Diocese of Cloyne:
“Professor Cathal O’Neill is highly regarded in his profession. As Head of the School of Architecture in UCD, he had educated a whole generation of architects. His work in the Pro-Cathedral in Dublin is regarded as having been done with great sensitivity in keeping with the requirements of a more communal liturgical celebration.”
So, you have a whole generation (or more) of seminarians herded into the spartan IBM waiting room titled “St Mary’s Oratory” and a whole generation of architects emerging from the tutelage of Cathal O’Neill. God Save Ireland!
Rhabanus!
In contarst to the modern interior inflicted by Richard Hurley on St. Mary’s Oratory in Maynooth, I would like you to take a look at the attached image: the classical elegance of the interior of the church in Dunmanway, Co. Cork:
I hope that someone in the heritage department in Cork County Council has had enough waking-hours to notice the importance of preserving the fenestration and glazing of St. Paul’s in Cork.
From a previous posting, I notice a large window on the left which does not seem too “sensitive”. Also, it should be noticed taht the upper left window was gutted in another “sensitive” adaptation as a fire-escape and closed by a sheet-iron dooor. Hopefully this can be removed and the window restored. Or, is that too much to hope for?
The Honan Chapel, Cork
James Cronin of UCC has kindly reminded us that the 90th. anniversary of the consecration of the Honan Chapel will recur on 5th. November 2006.
It looks as though some further work has been carried out o the chapel and I am glad to report that the great silver sanctuary lamp has been re-instated in the sanctuary of the chapel. It was needlessly removed during
a silly reordering of the chapel carried out in 1983. ALso removed at that time was the magnificent grille on the west door and the altar rail. It is to be hoped that both of these items can still be located so taht they too can be restored to their original positions from which no liturgical provision of the post-COnciliar reform required their destruction or removal.The Cathedral of St. Mary and St. Anne’s, Cork
The first photograph shows the interior of the Cathedral in late 19th/early 20th century. Note the position of the pulpit on the right hand side fot he main aisle. To-day it is atomized and dumped against a wall. From a previous posting, you can judge the quality of the craftsmanship.
The second picture shows the interior of the Cathedral following the completion of the new chancel built in the late 1950s.
Cathedral of St. Mary and St.Anne’s, Cork
Here is a link to the party guff preceding the gutting of the Cathedral:
http://corkandross.org/jsp/newsandevents/newsdisplay.jsp?newsID=174
