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- December 6, 2006 at 3:29 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769049
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ParticipantAnd here is a picture of the Mortuary door. Clearly, it has not been cleaned or varnished for almost a decade. The Varnish has already peeled away leaving the wood exposed to the elements. The hinges and strap work show the same signs of some form of cancerous oxidization under the last paint applied to them. Needless to say, none of the hot-fotted denizans of the Cobh Urban District Council ever noticed this problem:
December 6, 2006 at 3:10 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769047Praxiteles
ParticipantYes, it looks as though we have had a lot of water ingress and very little done to address the problem other than closing the door and wating for the ceilings to fall in!!
December 6, 2006 at 2:43 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769044Praxiteles
Participant@samuel j wrote:
And I guess there are dozens of expensive printed copies of these lying in boxes somewhere
Its backwards we’re going…..
By the way anyone know why the floodlights off all the time on St.Colmans… winter break….?Hada closer look at outr doors….they crying out for a sand and varnish…
Could we see some photographs of the doors? Two years ago, they were in a deplorable state and I could not help noticing that there is a sort of cancerour rust under the black paint on the hinges and strap work of the doors. All signs of great disater….
As to glossies….I am sure that some county councillor has a crate or tow stacked away for distribution at the enxt election. Did you ever in all you life see such roll call of idiodcy?
December 6, 2006 at 2:25 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769042Praxiteles
ParticipantThat is the Saint Empress Helena commemorating the invention of the True Cross. Why she was place there has always excaped me!
December 6, 2006 at 1:56 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769040Praxiteles
ParticipantBy accident, I discovered the enclosed piece of creative writing – probably the most entertaining since Finnegan’s Wake – called The Heritage Plan for the County of Cork.
Looking at this piece of public nonsense, we can begin to understand why it is that St. Colman’s Cathedral has been -and is – in such mortal danger. Despite long lists of public pen pushers and political quandgo riders, I do not believe that any person on the committee responsible for this contribution to creative writing has ever heard of, let alone read, the works of A.N. Didron or Viollet-le-Duc. Just as the Duke of Cumberland said to Edward Gibbon about his monumental Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire: “…words, words, words, all words…Mr. Gibbon……”
December 6, 2006 at 1:21 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769039Praxiteles
Participant@Fearg wrote:
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There are lots of little details on the exterior of Cobh which were not completed – however, I’m suspicious about the empty plinth on the parapet of the North Transept, does anyone know if there was ever a statue on it? note that the corresponding plinth on the south side is occupied..
In fact several of the plinths for the statues have never been filled. Most of the empty ones are on the North side; many but not all of the plinths on the South side have been filled; the original wooden Christ the King on the apex of the Chancel was blown down in a storm and replaced by a modern hollow bronze figure – of indifferent and somewhat eccentric design.
Two candidates have been waiting for over 10 years for addition to the heavenly host surrounding the Cathedral: Blessed Dominic Collins (1566-1602), a Jesuit lay-brother martyred in Youghal for the faith and beatified in 1992; and Br. Edmond Ignatius Rice (1762-1844), founder of the Presentation Order (which has had connections with the parish of Cobh since its inception) and of the Christian Brothers, beatified in 1996.
I am not certain whether a statue of Blessed Thadeus McCarthy /died in Ivrea in 1492) has been installed on the external parapet.
Other candiates awaiting installation (as they will hopefully be beatified in the near furture) are the Venerable Edel Quinn (1907-1944), a lay missionary with the Legion of Mary in East Africa who was born in the diocese of Cloyne and buried in Nairobi; the Servant of God Nano Nagle (1718-1784), foundress of the Presentation Sisters who was born in the diocese; the Servant of God Bishop Boethius MacEgan, martyred for the faith at Carrigadrohid in 1650 by Ireton.
Also awaiting beatification and installation on the parapet are: Edmond Tanner, SJ, Bishop of Cork and Cloyne martyred in Cork on 4 June 1579; and the Franciscan Daniel O’Neilan, hanged in Youghal in 1588.
December 5, 2006 at 11:27 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769034Praxiteles
ParticipantA further view of the mosaic in front of the altar rail in Cobh Cathedral. Note that since the benches in the transepts have been turned to face N and S -rather than their original E – they no longer fit and are now resting on the verge of the mosaic causing its complete dieintegration. Again, Cobh Urban District Council and the Heritage Officer of Cork County Council do not seem to be one bit bothered about this dilapidation. Please write your protests to Mrs Mary O’Halloran, Town Manager, Cobh, Co. Cork, Mr Pat Lynch, Town Clerk, Cobh, Co. Cork, Ms Louise Harrington, Heritage Officer, Cork County Hall, Cork, or to Mr. Denis Deasey, Architect, Town Hall, Cobh, Co. Cork. :
December 5, 2006 at 11:24 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769033Praxiteles
ParticipantThis is a picture of the Lady Chapel in St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork. Cleraly visible are the discarded benches which have been stored in the chapel and which are gradually causing the ornamental floor to disintegrate into shreds:
December 5, 2006 at 9:13 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769031Praxiteles
Participant@ake wrote:
1. Does anyone have pictures of St.Saviours, Dominic street (Dublin) before the re-ordering?
Here we are Ake, some shots of St. Savour’s avant:
December 5, 2006 at 8:43 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769030Praxiteles
Participant@samuel j wrote:
Duc, sequere, aut de via decede
Sic, Sam bene dixisti, sed mus non uni fidit antro !!
December 5, 2006 at 7:56 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769028Praxiteles
Participant@Fearg wrote:
Similarly, has anyone had any luck in finding some pictures of Monaghan Cathedral in its pristine state?
After a year of searching, the best efforts have failed – so far!
December 5, 2006 at 7:12 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769026Praxiteles
Participant@ake wrote:
1. Does anyone have pictures of St.Saviours, Dominic street (Dublin) before the re-ordering?
2.Does anyone have, or know of a complete or partial list of Irish churches re-ordered, not re-ordered or pending re-orderment?
If such a list does not exist, is there any way to incorporate one into this thread, to which everyone could contribute á la wiki?
Yes, there is a whole set of interior pictures of St. Saviour’s, Dominic Street available earlier in this thread. I shall try to re-post some of them.
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ParticipantPores?
December 5, 2006 at 1:34 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769023Praxiteles
ParticipantAnd this is the condition into which the Baptistry has been allowed deteriorate and decay while supposedly being a protected structure under the care of the Cobh Urban District Council and the Heritage Officer of Co. Cork.
December 4, 2006 at 6:19 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769022Praxiteles
ParticipantJust a couple of photographs to show what you can expect after the multi-million euro “restoration” of CObh Cathedral. These show two examples of the present state of the mosaic work at the main door and in front of the communion rail. What has Cobh Urban District Council done about this? Are we to take that Mr Deasey, Mr. Lynch and the hot footed Mrs. O’Halloran regard this as “normal” for a major national and international monument?
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Participant@Angry Rebel wrote:
…or to take a seat in the bar…!
….did not think of that….Praxiteles is a Pioneer!!
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Participant@Angry Rebel wrote:
You’ll also find that there are very few post-security seats as well. Overall I find the design to be poorly thought out and executed. Take your typical Sunday night where a very high number of flights depart around the same time, or any weekday morning and the departures lounge areas are quite congested.
Angry Rebel is quite correct – there is practically no seating after security and after DUTY_FREE. The lay out resembles Terminal 2D at Charles de Gaule except that it is smaller, more cramped and impossible to form an orederly boarding line. If the the lack of seating before security is to encourage people not to “hang-out” I am wonderning whether the the lack of seating after security is not to encourage travellers to “hang-in” at the DUTY FREE?
As for arrivals, it should not have been too hard to spend a few bob just to let people know that the lift has been heard of in the environs of Cork!
December 4, 2006 at 12:54 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769021Praxiteles
ParticipantHas nobody in Cobh Urban District Council noticed the presence of some seven to ten heavy-weigh benches that have been dumped into the Lady Chapel where they are calculated to break the ornamantal mosaic floor that was never intended to have anything placed on it? Neither was there anything on this floor until recently when the benches in the transcepts were re-arranged to face South and North rather than East and the several of them could not be “fitted” in. Hoow long will it take the Cork Heritage Officer or the over-active town clerk in Cobh to have the chapel cleared ? Or, must we wait for the fl
December 2, 2006 at 8:55 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769015Praxiteles
ParticipantAccording to the Trustees’ Act of 1896, Trustees have a fiduciary duty to maintain the property and goods they hold in trust in good order. Perhaps the bold bishop and Tom Cavanagh and Fr. Tim Fouhy do not realize that an action can be taken against them for failure to discharge their fiduciary duties? Perhaps someone should initiate proceedings to have the necessary maintenance work done to the Cathedral in Cobh. It is unbelievable that no money has been spent on general maintenance and repairs for the last five years – and the place is showing all the signs of it. I will post some photographs shortly!!
December 2, 2006 at 6:33 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #769012Praxiteles
ParticipantThis photograph taken c. 1920 shows the rail dividing the nave from the side aisles and also shows the brass light fittings mounted on them. These survided into the late 1990s but disappeared when the floor was re-done and have not yet been returned. They were the first casulties in the preparations for the star ship enterprise being prepared quietly by Denny Reidy, the parish priest of Carrigtwohill and the principal beste-magline behind the attempt to wreck the interior of Cobh Cathedral.
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