Praxiteles
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@Pug wrote:
a tad extreme but there should definetely be an inspection into the decision where planning authorities grant permission for developments and bord pleanala then come along and refuse it outright or apply 20 conditions. ABP should be a last resort, not something for the planning authority to use, the planners should be wondering what they are doing so wrong for ABP to change their decisions
I agree that an inspection should take place in those cases where a planning authority grants permission and ABP refuses permission. Not, however, to punish ABP but to punish and correct the incompetence (and sometimes worse) that is rife among local authority planning departments in Ireland. Take the case of the application to wreck the interior of Cobh Cathedral. Permission was granted by Cobh Urban District Council on the basis of a report by a temporary planning officer who explicitly stated that he had no particular competence to judge the importance of a neo-gothic building of the importance of Cobh Cathedral; who, nonetheless, had no difficulty in dismissing the considered report of the Cork County Heritage Officer; and who had such a level of commitment to the public office he held that he did NOT even bother to look at let alone read alomst half the objections lodged with Cobh Urban District Council by the ordinary citizen who paid Euro 20 to express an opinion, Despite all this, no corrective action has been taken with Cobh Urban District Council and no disciplinary action has been taken against any of its officials, and not one person whose objections were consigned to a box and dumped somewhere in the Council Offices has received their Euro 20 back. At the risk of seeming pedantic, I can supply you with copies of all the relevant documentation into this sorrow state from the Midleton oral Hearing.
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
The Chapel of the Blessed Thaddeus McCarthy
This chapel again has a fine ornamental floor into which odd bits of stray furniture have been dumped.
The altar has been stripped of its furnishings and cloths and little or no notice is given to the casket underneath the altar containing the relics of Blessed Thaddeus McCarthy brought from Ivrea in 1895.
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Cork
The Lady Chapel in the North Transept.
Again, the floor of this chapel is a masterpiece of the mosaic master craftsman and contains depictions of several mystical subjects taken from the Canticle of Canticle referring to Our Lady’s Immaculate Conception.
The altar and statue are of flawless Carrara marble.
Unfortunately, this chapel has been converted into a store room for benches taht have been displaced by stupidly rearranging their orientation. Their weight is causing grave damage to what is essentially an ornamental floor. Again, it is perfectly clear that none of these benches was made for this chapel.
One of the great mosaic treasures in Cobh Cathedral is the floor of the Sacred Heart Chapel. It is a tour -de- force of a representation of the medieval bestiary and of the symbolic depiction of the triumph of the Lamb over sin, evil and death where each is represented by one of the fabulous beasts.
The present custodians of the Cathedral have little or no understanding of this language and are quite content to use the chapel as a dumping ground for rubbish and other bits and pieces of junk. Of course, Professor Cathal O’Neill would not have given a second thought to digging out the entire floor.
The other significant problem with St. Colman’s Catheral, Cobh, Co. Cork, is the internal mosaic work. When the timber floor was recently replaced in the nave, no proper edging was installed to protect the edges of the mosaic on the walkways. The result of this has been an alarming decay of the mosaics, especially their edges which are constantly chipped by bences which have been place on to of the mosaic edges. Professor Cathal O’Neill proposed resolving the mosaic problem by ripping out about 50% of it -after which the remaining 50% would not be that noticeable.
kite wrote::confused: With regard to the planning process in Cork, does anyone share (or care about) my concerns that some planning applications that have gone through the process including the appeals board only to come back so many times for changes to the original application (some as many as 20-30 changes per application) that people cannot figure out what is going on?
This undermines genuine planning applications in Cork.
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All we can is: mmwumm hhmmummm whummm…..!Rhabanus!
Here are some more shots of those pidgeon infested Apostles on the chevet of St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Here is a close up of the wrought iron strapwork on the main door of St. COlman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Am I to be believe that it requires no maintenance?
@Fearg wrote:
Ah – you can also see very clearly there the mess in the room above the baptistry..
Ferg!
Just take another look at this picture.
Would you not say that the upright piece on the right is one of the timber pillars used to support the divisions between the nave and the aisles? The shape seems right.
Some further examples of the slime problem affecting the exterior stone work of St. COlman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork. The architect responsible for the restoration of the external stone work of the Carhedral was Mr. David Slattery.
@samuel j wrote:
Excellent….
I know where I can get my hands on a wooden boat but horse..not so readily available.. so maybe you’ll be okay… have done many a voyage around the coast but to call it an Odyssey would be stretching it….
there again if Magoo takes up boating and starts wearing a toga we could be in deep water.La Guerre de Troie…and all that…but, where is the face that launched the thousand ships that hid in the statio mala fide carinis ?
@Rhabanus wrote:
How could Rhabanus ever accuse Praxiteles of pseudo-intellectualism? Would you believe that I just recently came across a reference to slime in a quotation from Matt Walker’s Moths that Drink Elephant Tears and Other Zoological Curiosities (London: Portrait, 2006): ‘hagfish (Eptratetus stoutii) produce substantial amounts of slime when harassed’.
In reply to your query, then, Prax: have you been harassing the local hagfish in Cobh?
No. Just a few awfully serious piper smokers in Cork!!
@samuel j wrote:
“At the risk of appearing pseudo-intellectual “
Nemo propheta in patria sua ……. heeeheeeee
Feels more like Cassandra….
At the risk of appearing pseudo-intellectual for it, Praxiteles wishes to raise the question of slime – ecological slime that is!
WHen St. Colman’s Cathedral. Cobh, Co. Cork was “restored” some 15 years ago, the external walls were power -hosed and cleaned to a very white colour. Since then however the white hue has disappeared and been replaced by noticeable streks of what appears to be green slime on the West and South elevations of the building. On the North elevation a seemingly black slime has appeared and now covers extensives portons of the walls.
Can anyone explain what this is? What is the cause? And what remedies should be applied?
The architect in charge of the external restoration of Cobh Cathedral was Mr. David Slattery.
