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Thanks Ferg for those pictures of the interior of Sts. Augustine and John’s. They give a good idea of just how striking it is and, fortunately, still fairly well in tact.
The Monastery of St. Francis, Gorton, Manchester by E.W. Pugin (1863-1867)
Some news concerni g Gorton Monastery, another church to be viewed in relation to Cobh, St. Peter and Paul’s, Clonakilty and St, Augustine and John’s:
St. Augustine and St John’s, Thomas Street, Dublin.
To start the ball rolling, here are a couple of shots of the exterior of this church designed by Pugin and Ashlin in 1860. The iron work is by McGloughlin, the mosaic by Oppenheimer, the stone work by Pearce -all of whom were employed in Cobh Cathedral.
The triumphal arch into which portal and nave window are recessed is evident here. It would later be repeated in Cobh Cathedral.
The Nave window, with an inset smaller Rose (closely resembling the South Rose in Cobh) is closer to St. Peter amnd Paul’s in Cork.
@kite wrote:
Ronan Daly Jermyn solicitors have applied under the Landlord and Tenant Ground Rent Act 1967 on behalf of D. Matthews Ltd. to acquire the fee simple from the representatives of David Russell Crawford for the premises 8 Half Moon Street.
The lease dates from March 1st 1873 between David Russell Crawford and Barry Sheehan for 400 years @ 12 pounds P.A. rent.Interesting that Ronan Daly and Vermyn should be moving at this point!!
St. Peter and Paul’s in Cork City.
This and the Immaculate Conception in Clonakilty are the forerunners of Pugin and Ashlin’s Cobh Cathedral. Many of the characteristic features of these architects found in Cobh Cathedral are also to be seen in both of these churches.
Note the altar rail which spans the entire with of the church, as in Cobh and Clonakilty and in the Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual Succor in Roxboro in Boston, Professor Cathal O’Neill was unaware of this characteristic feature of Pugin and Ashlin churches and regarded the Cobh example as a crude exercise that was probably not due to the work any architect.
As at Clonakilty, in the absence of a Porta Coeli arch (which is tobe found in Cobh), the sanctuary is emphasized and demarkated by the polycrome ceiling (cfr- posting 2069, p. 83).
As at Clonakilty, the spandrils in the nave are occupied by canopied statues of the Apostles raised on brackets (Clonakilty) or columns (St. Peter and Paul’s).
A third church that needs to be looked at in conjunction with Clonakilty and St. Peter and Paul’s is St. John and St. Augustine’s in Dublin. It would be great boon were some of the camera fraternity in Dublin able to provide some photographs of the interior as they are almost impossible to locate.
@Rhabanus wrote:
What about the empty niche above the rose window? Any clue as to the original design? Was it supposed to contain an image of Our Lord? the Blessed Virgin? St Colman? St Patrick? The Blessed Trinity? Surely there must have been a plan to fill that niche. The other niches on lower levels are beautifully filled with statues of the saints.
Seems odd to me that this niche was left empty. Anyopne have a plan of the iconographical and hagiographical programme of the caathedral’s facade?
The niche above the South Rose window (exterior) contains a marble roundel depicting the Coronation of Our Lady as Queen of Heavan.
It would be great if the camera confraternity in Cobh could supply some images of these details! Hint….
St Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
The glazing scheme of the South Rose Window is as follows:
The central cuspe depicts Our LAdy, Star of the Sea
The radial cusps, from the lower middle left:
a. Annunciation
b. Visitation
c. Nativity of Our Lord
d. Jesus at Nazareth
c. Magnificat
e. Sailors look tot he Star of the Sea
f. Sailors praying
g. Men praying at shrine of Our Lady in a stormThanks for that Ferg. It is an excellent resources grouping together examples of all the most important Roses. It will be helpful when dealing with the other two Rose Windows in Cobh Cathedral – the West Window which depicts the Apocalypse of St. John, chapter 4; and the North Rose which is depicts the Holy Family and St. Joseph.
St. Mary’s Church, Mallow, Co. Cork
And here is another evrsion of the same Rose Window installed in the new facade of Mallow Church,built by G.C: Ashlin in 1900. In this case, a single cusped oculus surrounded by eight radial oculi; the fillet at the top was unnecessary because of the rounded arch; and the colonettes seen in Cobh window have been omitted; the quadrifoils in the lower corners are blamk; the Rose surmounts seven blank lancets; blow which is the Main Portal; the entire composition is massed and recessed within a triumphal arch. Curiously, although this style is referred to as neo-Lombardic Romanesque, the Rose window here is derived from Laon and completely integrated into the facade.
@Spinal Tap wrote:
IRISH RAIL – SOMEDAY WE WILL BE A GOOD AS WE WERE IN 1875.
That is exactly the point!! The Irish were not running the Rail in 1875 – nor the City Council for that matter!!!
Another view of the North facade of Laon Cathedral:
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Some further information on the North Rose at Laon may be viewed here:
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/documentation/memoire/VISITES/laoncath.htmThe Rose (c. 1180) in the North Transept at Laon Cathedral:
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
The South Rose WIndow: this consists of eight cusped oculi radiatng around a large central cusped oculus. The radiating oculi are separated by colonettes the bases of wich support the central oculus and capitals of which support the radius of the outer oculi. The circular window is integrated into the pointed arch by the use of a fillet with a central trefoil inserted above the circumference of the Rose, and by two quadrifoils at the base of the Rose. The Rose is set above seven lancet windows the colums of which stand proud to the tracery of the windows.
The basic composition of a central oculus surrounded by eight smaller oculi is derived from the North Rose of Laon Cathedral which was installedd c. 1180-1190. The superimposed fillet derives from the the transept Roses of Rheims Cathedral which date from c.1230, themseles based on the windows of St, Nicaise in Rheims (demolished in the 19th.century) where it first made its appearance. The feature of proud standing colums in the lancets derives from the West facade of Strassburg Cathedral dating from 1277-1318. The prototype for this arcade of columns may well derive from the arcade found above the Rose window on the North facade of Laon Cathedral.
The entire composition is recessed into a single triumphal arch rising throuh the entire facade. This feature derives from the West facade of Laon Cathedral which was completed around 1200. The same treatment is more pronounded on the West facade of Cobh Cathedral which had to integrate the West Portal below the lancets windows supporting the Rose.
From to-day’s quondam Cork Examiner:
Shipless firm cancels 2007 sailings and axes 35 jobs
SWANSEA Cork Ferries (SCF) announced last night that it would be cancelling all sailings for 2007 after it failed to secure a ship for the new season.
The service was estimated to be worth €35m to the tourist economy in the south and its closure will result in the loss of 35 jobs. In a statement, SCF said that the decision was taken following the “company’s failure to procure a suitable vessel” to replace its ship, mv Superferry, which it sold last October.
The statement said SCF sold the 35-year-old vessel primarily because of age and because its freight capacity limitations were seen as a major inhibition on the growth of the business. The company had been seeking a vessel across Europe and beyond – travelling to the south of France and other locations looking for a short-haul ferry.
The company revealed that two vessels had been identified “whose configuration suited conditions on the Wales/South West of Ireland route”.
In November, the company successfully bid for the purchase of a modern ferry which was to cost them in excess of €30m.
Unfortunately for SCF, the seller was, the company claims, unable to fulfil all of the sale conditions and the deal collapsed in Christmas week. Since then, SCF has made an unsuccessful bid for an alternative ship and has unsuccessfully sought temporary charter arrangements to sustain the service.
All company creditors have been discharged and any outstanding accounts will be paid in full.
SCF was established in 1987, following the withdrawal of the B&I sailing service from Cork.
Since then, it has carried more than three million passengers on its route.
A company spokesman has said that the decision to suspend service was taken with regret especially when the market is in a favourable condition.
“It is ironic that the service has had to be suspended at a time when the market indicators suggest an upturn in ferry travel.
“It is our ambition to resume the service in 2008 and we would like to sincerely thank our staff for their commitment to the service and our passengers over the years for their support,” he added.
Local TD Bernard Allen, FG spoke of his sadness at the news of the cancellation.
“I regret greatly that efforts were not successful to secure a new vessel.
“It is a huge blow to the region. A lot of people have been using the service to go to Heineken Cup Rugby matches and other events. It is going to be bad for 2007,” he said.
Deputy Cathleen Lynch, TD, described the cancellations as “unhelpful” for the Cork/Kerry region but added that it was not all doom and gloom.
“The company have suffered difficulties with ships, crews and rates of pay and I think that this has come home to roost,” she said.
Niall O’Connor
@Spinal Tap wrote:
Those large blocks will never get planning in my opinion.
I would not be too sure of that!
The Church of the Immaculate Conception, Clonakilty, Co. Cork, G.C. Ashlin (1869)
The spire and West elevation.
Church of the Immaculate Conception, Conakilty, Co. Cork by G.C. Ashlin (1869)
1. The South Rose Window. Note thes sensitively placed lamp over the door and the red alarm light on the right.
2. The Apse showing influences more common to JJ. McCarthy as per Maynooth College Chapel (without the radial chapels) and of his pupil Connolly’s Basilica of the Immaculate Conception at Guelph, Ontario. I am not sure what he would think of the sensitively inserted boiler house and flew.
3. the North Rose WIndowKite!
Did you see what Eason’s on Patrick were selling in their Christmas book sale? Large quantities of something called Mein Kampf !!!
kite wrote:😎 Thanks for that link Praxiteles, great views of Cobh on that RTE clip.
How did they omit the modern “]As far as I can see Kite the most obvious thing kept out of photographic-frame in this nice RTE production are the usual guffers – none was present. Where have they gone to, I wonder?
As to dating the shooting, is Irish Steel still there in the backbround or can we see Fr. Ted’s crematorium on Rocky Island?
