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St. Patrick’s College, Maynooth, Co. Kildare – St. Mary’s Cloister
The monstrosity in the middle of the cloister was never envisaged by A.W.N. Pugin!!
Mount St. Joseph’s Cistercian Abbey, Roscrea, Co. Tipperary
You should be able to find an example of a cloister here
Re Painting:
You can take it that when money was available and painting had to be done, elaborate schemse covered the entire church.
When money was available but limited, then most was spent on the Apse and a reduced scheme in the nave.
When funds did not allow this, then what was available was spent on the Apse with whitewash used in the nave usually relieved with scrolls over the arches quoting lines from the New Testament.
In Ireland, the unfortunate 1970s saw much of this work simply painted over in nice glossy paint. As time progressed, the colours became lighter and lighter until we now have bland pastels all over the place.
The interior of St Mary’s in Mallow was re-painted not so long ago. the pinters employed were competent and some of the scagliola work is very good. I suppose it all depends on what you are prepared to spend!!
@ake wrote:
before I forget, does anyone have any information and pictures on modern Irish cloisters, if they exist? I believe there is one in the Cistercian house in Waterford, Mount Melleray, maybe I’m wrong
Take a look at the areal picture of St. Francis in Cork. You can see the cloister on the North side of the Church.
Here is an example of what you might expect to find in this church had its original paint work been preserved. The example is taken from St. Peter’s Cathedral in London, Ontario, Canada.
@ake wrote:
…. kilkenny churche: …the gothic church near the train station
Is that red good or bad?
That red all over the ceiling is MOST unfortunate and in very bad taste.
1. The colour scheme of the ceiling should differentiate the apse from the sanctuary. The same colour should not be used on both. In this case, you would expect the apse to be painted in alternating blue and red panels with stencils or inserted painted panels or angels or saints or indeed of stars.
In the neave you would expect to find alternating panels of blue and red; or torquise green and pink.
2. In the attic of the Porta Coeli arch, facing into the nave, you would expect to find a fresco, possibly of the resurrection or the ascension or assumption and a similar counterpart on the other side facing into the apse.
3. Those banners are utterly absurd and serve no useful purpose.
Nice posting, Ake, but there is no need for the amazement concerning the quality of Irish church building up to the 60s: just take a look at St. Francis in Liberty Street in Cork or The Descent of the Holy Ghost at Dennehy’s Cross in Cork etc.
WHat is amazing that this whole tradition seems to have evaporsted over night in the 1970s.
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Some shots of the present condition of the external doors to the North and South transepts.
After spending £4 million we are left with nothing but decay and degredation.
@ake wrote:
Is it ok to post pictures of irish churches with nothing to do with cobh or pugin?
Another nave spoiled by idiotic colorsI for one would welcome material from churches throughout the country. Indeed, there are some particular horrors in the Waterford/Kilkenny area due to a fellow called Costello. Work right ahead…
Re: St Mary’s Church, Mallow, Co. Cork
There is no doubt whatsoever that both the arch on the facade in Mallow and that on the South facade in Dadizele are very similar.
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork
Some views of the glass in the Rose and lancets of the South Window:
@Rhabanus wrote:
How about that small niche above the rose window? I note that it is filled with a statue. Is it Our Lady? Our Lady as a child? I cannot see it very well.
What are the particular iconographic attributes of the Madonna to whom the church is dedicated?
That must be Our Lady although I cannot be sure as the photograph is not too clear.
@Fearg wrote:
The absence of a pulpit seems to be the main loss, along with the altar gates..
As at Clonakilty.
The Pilgrimage Church of Our Lady of Dadizele, Belgium
The foundation stone was laid by Monsigneur Malou on 8th. September 1859. The church was consecrated in 1880. Heavily shelled during the World War I, it was re-built by Monsigneur Waffelaert between 1920 and 1924. It was further damaged during Wordl War II and again restored. A full scale restoration of the Basilica began in 1998.
The other great church built by E.W. Pugin and which was built on a par with Cobh Cathedral was the pilgrimage church of Our Lady at Dadizele in Belgium. Unfortunately, it was bombed during the First World War. The church was rebuilt after the war but not as splendidly as when originally built. Just start counting the similarities with Cobh, St. Peter and Paul’s in Cork, St. Augustine and St. John in Dublin, Gorton in Manchester, and also E.W. Pugin’s church at Barton on Irwill also near Manchester.
