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Cathedral of Notre Dame de Mantes (1170-1220):
The West facade with its central arch incorporating portal, lancets and rose – a feature taken over directly to the West facade of Cobh Cathedral and used by E.W. Pugin at Dadizele, Gorton and Barton-on-Irwell; and by G.C. Ashlin in St. Mary’s, Mallow, Co. Cork.
For further views of Mantes see here:
http://www.johnjames.com.au/gpa-mantes/gpa-mantes-index.shtml
A further evolution in the integration of the Rose into the cathedral facade is Rheims. Here the problem of having a circle inserted into a pointed arch is solved for the first time by inserting fillets above the circumference of the Rose.
The West Facade of Laon Cathedral completed in 1220:
Here is an example of how the Rose begins to be integrated into the overall facade by being recessed into a deep arch – a feature which also influenced the West Facade of Cobh Cathedral – and by the shedding of the square surround.
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The West Facade of Chartres Cathedral:
Here we see the Great Rose situated within a square and, at this early stage, not jet integrated into the overall facade.
A further link to information on Chartres:
http://www.paradoxplace.com/Photo%20Pages/France/Chartres/Chartres%20Cathedral.htm
The great West Window of Cobh Cathedral whose subject is the Vision of the Throne of God taken from the Apocalypse of St. John (4:1-11). The subject is Our Lord seated in glory, sourrounded by the elders, clad in white teguments and crowns of gold. Around the throne are the the four living creatures (symbolic of the found evangelists): the lion, the ox, the man, and the soaring eagle. As they cry out Holy Holy Holy is the Lord God Almighty Who was, Who is, and Who is to come , they cast down their crowns before the throne and pay homage to Christ. The inner circle depicts the twelve Apostles. The outer circle depicts the saints in glory.
For comparative purposes, juxtaposing the Wst Rose of Cobh Cathedral (left) with the West Rose of Chartres Cathedral (right) will allow us to see the obvious similarities in the geometric structure and in the tracery of both windows.
From the above, we can situate the prototype for the West Rose in Cobh Cathedral as dating from the period c. 1200-1215 and suggest that it was probably the West Rose at Chartres.
The drawings below show the evolution of the Rose Window in from approximately 1150 to 1485.
– 1. The West Rose of Peterborough Cathedral dating from c. 1150.
– 2. The West Rose at Chartres dating from c. 1215 which still retains the colonettes.
– 3. The West Rose at Laon dating from c. 1200.
– 4. The Rayonnant West Rose at Notre Dame de Paris dating from c. 1245.
– 5. The Flamboyant Rose of the Sainte Chapelle dating from c. 1485.
KB!
Here is the likn to the text which is The Lamentations of the Prophet Jeremiah
http://benedictumxvi.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_lamentationes_lt.html
And Dante’s use of the famous phrase in his Vita Nuova
http://www.fh-augsburg.de/~harsch/italica/Cronologia/secolo14/Dante/dan_vit3.html
And forget not his famous line:
Li occhi dolenti per pietà del core
hanno di lagrimar sofferta pena,
sì che per vinti son remasi omai.
Ora, s’i’ voglio sfogar lo dolore,
che a poco a poco a la morte mi mena,
convènemi parlar traendo guai.Chartres Cathedral, South Rose, the Glorification of Christ
Chartres Cathedral, the West Rose
@Fearg wrote:
… and here is a French neo gothic rose. Basilica of Sainte Clothilde – Paris, like Monaghan, internally this is mostly blocked by the organ (apparently some of the inspiration for St Saviours came from here):
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When you say obscured, you sure mean it: Take a look here
St. Clotilde is important for it was, as far as memory serves me, the first of the Neo Gothic churches to be build in Paris and highly praised by A.N. Didron.
Yes, it was the first Neo-Gothic church built in Paris. Here is a potted history:
http://www.uquebec.ca/musique/orgues/france/sclothildep.htmlAnd here are some further pictures of the interior. It resembles St. Nicolas in Nantes -the first Neo-Gothic church built in France. Unfortunately, the sancturay has been gotten to before the Beaux Arts could classify it!
AKE!
Here is an example of a painted ceiling in the Sainte Chapelle in Paris wit its blue and gold stars. The Sixtine Chapel had a similarly painted ceiling before Michelangelo began his fresco series.
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
The western rose is largely obscured by the organ except from the eastern end. The northern and southern rose windows never received stained glass and are clear.
southern window from outside
http://archeire.com/buildings_ireland/monaghan/monaghan/stmacartans1_lge.htmlInterior of western window
http://archeire.com/buildings_ireland/monaghan/monaghan/cathedral_interior_lge.htmlHave you any idea of the subject of the glazing in the West Rose?
Another example of a properly arranged facade of baptistery, entrance, mortuary and campanile: G.C. Ashlin’s St Mary’s Church, Mallow, Co. Cork, 1900.
The baptistery has been abandoned and vandalized as has the mortuary.
And for some of the French prototypes for the Rose Windows of the Irish Neo-Gothic Revival:
The South Rose of Notre Dame de Paris
