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Below is one of Bartlett’s views of the Cove of Cork engraved c. 1840. You can see the tower of the Anglican church in the engraving from the the other side.
@samuel j wrote:
Late 60s i think, can kind of remember it coming down,when I was a kid or my dad talking about it but late 60s sounds right.
What is currently on the site?
Re: c. 1869 picture of Cobh
The picture was was taken from the ground behind the houses on the extreme left of the third picture in posting 2355. The building on the extreme left of the picture in question may be part of the Crescent – but it is difficult to say. Clearly visible across the road from the church is the Bridewell – which was only demolished when the road in front of the Cathedral was finished.
I doubt very much that it would have been possible to keep this building and build the Cathedral on the same site. The site was already very restricted and required the building of a platform to gain extra ground. On the south side, the foundations of the platform go down 24 feet before reaching solid rock.
The church farther to the right was the Anglican church in Cobh. This was closed and eventually demolished in the 1960s (?) or possibly even later.
Interestingly, one of the former Administrators of Cobh was buried in front of the old church. His grave was preserved intact and eventually ended up on the inside of the south side aisle. The monument was there at least until the 1930s and then disappeared (apparently without trace). This monument is clearly visible in a picture taken c. 1912. Here is the picture:
This is a photograph of Cobh taken prior to February 1868 showing the old parish church which was demolished to make way for the building of the Cathedral.
St. Colman’s Cathedral, Co. Cork.
Some photographs showing the progress of the building the spire the second phase of which was carried out bewteen 1911-1915:
Ake!
Here are some links to Cologne Cathedral that may be of interest:
http://www.koelner-dom.de/index.php?id=18963&L=1
Thanks Ake for that. The problem with Cologne is that it was bombed during the war and lost quite a bit of its interior. As it stands at present, if you adopt the position of the penitent sinner and attend Mass at the back of the nave you cannot see the altar at crossing. I am not sure that it was not always there for the apse was occupied bythe shrine of the three kngs which still is in its original poistion. In the present set up, you only see the celebrant when he mounts the modest pulpit on the right – I once heard the present Archbishop preach an extraordinary sermon from it and of a type practically never heard in Ireland. Nothing like muscular German Catholicism!
Re. the Terenure church arrangement, it certainly is an unusual “accidental” arrangement but not unique. The arrangement was often found in the churches and chapels of enclosed religious. They had their part behind the altar and the public in the part in front of the altar.
@ake wrote:
I was recently in Our Lady of the Rosary, Harolds cross. The interior was painted a ludicrous tangy orange! And the re-ordering- well.. if I truck had crashed into the east wall it wouldn’t have been worse- but besides that it’s a real beauty. What a vault. Does anyone have old photographs of it?
I was also in St.Josephs, Terenure. Is this the longest nave in Ireland? Also, what is the altar doing in the center of the nave?
Ake!
The altar is in middel of Terenure church because thta is where it was originally erected. The church was subsequently extended behind the altar leaving it in the middle of the nave!
Have you any shots of Harold’s Cross?
Rathmines is very beautiful. I will bet taht if you count the futes on the column they will come to 4; the width will be twice the width of the raised piece between them, and the depth will be 5/8 of the piece between them!
Another example of the Mantes/Laon facade used by Pugin and Ashlin is to be found at the Cathedral of the Holy Rosary in Toledo, Ohio, built between 1925-1935.
@kite wrote:
😎 Cllr. Ciaran Lynch is one of the most approchable, helpful people in City Hall
email: clynch@corkcity.ie
Tel: 086 8562600Fair dues, he certainly has a great number of contact details. I hope the replies are as abundant as the enquiries!!
@Ebeck wrote:
Originally posted by PUG – Article elsewhere in the paper stating that Councillor Ciaran Lynch was tabling a motion to J Gavin to initiate a feasibility study into building a muli discipline decent sized stadium in the docklands – I say we all give him a hand, email his website or get him to set up some petition type email link to get everyone involved
I would gladly sign up to such a petition. Anyone have an e-mail address for Clr Lynch?
Here you are: all the contact details you need for the bold Cll Lynch:
http://www.labour.ie/ciaranlynch/
However, when you are sending an e-mail, be sure to cancel the automatic copy being sent to the central offices. We all want to give the boy a chance to fill up his copy book without the teacher looking over his shoulder!!
And for the really enthusatic, here is the link to his very own website:
http://www.ciaranlynch.ie/However, the rate at which it is being updated does not give one the greatest hope for fast, friendly and free engagement in bettering Cork!
Something from this morning’s quondam Cork Examiner:
26 January 2007
Airport blown off course by the winds of change
RECENTLY I returned to Ireland after a few years abroad. I have taken several flights since my return using my local airport, Cork. Last week my flight into it was diverted to Shannon because of a strong cross-wind.
This led me to enquire about facilities at Cork. I was taken aback by the revelation that despite a lot of trumpeting, things have not improved. There has been no investment in the cross runway, so users are likely to be diverted when the westerly wind rises.
Then I learned the Government has given Cork its own company to run and develop the airport. However, the Government has not given the company any power and it must apply to Dublin for every cent.
I have been soaked to the skin walking to the aircraft parking location. I have been soaked all over again getting to the car park. I have been fleeced to use the car park in addition to the excessive prices in shops and restaurants at the airport. Perhaps you will understand my amazement on learning that Shannon can offer incentives to airlines, an unprecedented redundancy payment to staff, and an astonishing €10,000 to those who opt to remain.
Meanwhile, Cork can’t even get a covered walkway for its rain-sodden users. The new board at Cork is getting money for jam. It appears to do nothing and certainly has no clout with its Dublin masters. It must be costing at least €250,000 a year to sustain this charade.
Spend the money on facilities, and not on Government appointees who deliberate on little more than the colour of the toilet paper.
Maybe I should move to Shannon.
Paul O’Reilly
19 Leeside Apartments
Devonshire Street West
CorkHere is a closer view of the glazing of the West Rose Window at Cobh Cathedral.
The inscription is taken from the Apocalypse fo St. John 4:8 [Nova Vulgata] and reads: “Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus Dominus, Deus Omnipotens, qui erat, qui est et qui venturus est!” [Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, God Almight, who was, who is, and who is to come].
The central oculus depicts Christ, blessing and holding a scroll, in imperial session, seated on a backed throne, with toga, bear, long hair, and crossed halo.
In the rayonnment from the central oculus, the tetrazoe or four beasts of the apocalypse can be determined since the band containing the inscription does not intersect them. The Eagle (signifying St. John) can be easily made out on the upper right; the ox (signifying St.Luke) on the lower right; the lion (indicating St Mark) appears to be on the upper left; and the man (depicting St. Matthew) seems to be on the lower left.
the remaining petals seem to be occupied by seraphs and cherubim.
The rasial cinquifoils contain 12 of the 24 ealders. All seem to carry thuribles -signifying Christ’s divinity- some are playing musical instruments -mainly harps. The upper one are seen taking off their crowns as recounted in the text of Apocalypse chapter 4.
The smalled outer triangles contain a broken border carried right around the circumference.
The article on glass in Viollet-le-Duc’s Dictionnaire Raisonné de l’Architecture Francaise
To return briefly to the central oculus of the South Rose at St. Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh, Co. Cork, here is a view of the Star of the Sea depicted in that oculus:
Some further inofrmation on Mantes Cathedral:
http://www.musimem.com/mantes.htm
http://www.mcah.columbia.edu/ha/html/medieval_mantes-la-jolie_choir.htm
http://www.mcah.columbia.edu/ha/html/medieval_mantes-la-jolie_west_end.htm
Luzarches wrote:Fearg wrote:Some shots of Notre Dame de Paris in March 2004 – the crossing was being re-ordered at this time:I think that the crossing had been reordered some time before that]
Here is Viollet-le-Duc’s hypothetical reconstruction of the medieval sanctuary of Notre Dame de Paris as published in his Dictionnaire raisonné de l’Architecture francaise du XI au XVI siècle.
Laon Cathedral 1180-1215
http://www.mcah.columbia.edu/ha/related_sites/laon_360/index.html
