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Here is the next victim of the Cloyne HACK, St. Joseph’s, Liscarroll, Co. Cork
An application has been made to Cork County Council basically to erase the entire interior of this rather interesting mid 19 century village church. Clearly, the plan was drawn up by a pupil of Will dowsing because the proposal is to bulldoze the sancturay and level it with the nave. Original, eh…!
@pipedreams wrote:
No it seems to have finished from what I can see
The picture is not of the real spire – it was painted in by my great grandfather – James Horgan – and he based it on his childhood memories of it.
Did Cork County Council grant permission to paint the organ case pink? If it did, what does that say for Cork County Council?
I think it is probably just as well that the architect in question did not attempt anything even remotely “gothic”.
@Fearg wrote:
On a more positive note, the cathedral has aquired a lectern (dated 1873, year cathedral itself was dedicated).
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A lovely lovely piece. Where did it come from?
St. Joseph’s Church, Liscarroll, Co. Cork
http://homepage.eircom.net/~liscarroll/Website/index_files/Page592.htm
@james1852 wrote:
Here are some more photos of St. Mary’s, Youghal
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Thanks James 1852 for those wonderful photographs of Youghal Church. The spire gives a completely different appearance to the tower which now looks squat since its removal.
@Fearg wrote:
Former Pulpit from Armagh Cathedral:
In Situ:
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and this is what became of it (think its part of the canopy):
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Can no one be persuaded to rescue these fragments?
With reference to posting # 2702, Praxiteles has just checked Nancy Weston’s biography of Daniel Maclise and indeed the profile figure lighting the pipe is Fr. Horgan, PP of Blarney. The character illuninated by the fire is Crofton Croker collecting material for his Researches in the South of Ireland; the girl in the left front corner is Isabella Maclise, the artist’s sister, wearing a shawl depicting Daniel O’Connell; Dr. John McEvers dances the jig brandishing a shillelagh; Sir Walter Scott, Maclise’s patron, sits a table of whiskey drinkers warning a mother that granny is feeding whiskey to the babe in arms while a blind piper has whiskey poured into his mouth while he plays.
Nothing has been seen like this kind of sheer vandalism since the rampage of the Sea Beggars in the Low Countries!
Again in connection with St. Mary’s Church, Buttevant, Co. Cork, Praxiteles is grateful to RB for supplying a 19th century document which that the gates, Railing and Pallasiding in front of St. Mary’s Church, Buttevant, was were erected in 1863 and in 1864.
“The stone was got from Copstown quarry. It was cut by Regan of Doneraile. A man named Murphy supplied the railings and W.H. Lysaght is credited with the erection of the massive gates. [The Parish Priest] was obliged to pay half the expense of flagging and kerbstones in front of the church. The County [Grand Jury] paid the other half.
The Regan of Doneraile mentioned above is the family of stone masons about which a separate thread already exists on Archiseek.
@Fearg wrote:
Yet more clutter… this time its a legal requirement.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6560899.stm
Let us hope that that someone will think of asking for an exemption from this nonsense before the scribes copyists in the Department of Justice enact the same nonsence in the Republic!!
@THE_Chris wrote:
I often wondered what that was… can see it from the main Cork – Limerick road.
And from the Cork-Dublin railway line.
P.S. I am inclined to think that the figure with the pipe seen in profile near the fire in Maclise’s picture is probably Fr. Horgan while the figure seen in the light of the fire may well be the antiquarian Crofton Croker.
@Praxiteles wrote:
Praxiteles is most grateful to RB for making available Richard Brash’s contarct letter for the ceiling and other internal works at St. Mary’s Church, Buttevant, Co. Cork. The letter is dated 12 June 1855 and reads as follows:
“I propose to execute the Alterations and plastering at the Catholic Church of Buttevant according to the plans and specifications furnished by me for that purpose. That is one set of plans and a specificaton furnished for building the Chancel and sacristy in addition to which I propose to make and erect three sets of red pine frames in the window opes (sic) built up and to fill same with metal sashes glazed with C. glass. Also to provide chiselled lime stone window sills for the above three windows. Also to flag with lime stone flagging that portion of the Nave where the platform is. Also to to (sic) fix a platform across the Chancel 6 feet wide as pointed out by Mr. Buckley with 10 inch step and to cut fix and regulate all the railings. The above work I engage to execute finding all labour materials and except sand and lime for the sum of six hundred and eighty pounds. June 12 1855. Richard Brash“
A further note attached to this letter reads: ” This proposal was afterwards reduced to £650 as Canon Buckley evidently decided to give the preference to Mr. Brash who was an Architect Archeologist and local historian of repute, friend to the Windeles and Fr. Matt Horgan and Fr. Smiddy” .
The Fr. Matt Horgan mentioned here is the famous Parish Priest of Blarney who erected a very interesting Round Tower at Waterloo near Blarney – which again is not surprising as the Cork circle of Archeologists and historians to which he and Windele, Caulfield and Brash belonged had a particular interest in Round Towers and at one stage embarked on a series of (much criticized) “archeological” investigations around the foundations of the Round Tower at Cloyne.
On the basis of the above cited letter, we can add the Sacristy of St. Mary’s Church, Buttevant, Co. Cork to the oeuvre of Richard Brash. It is seen abutting the street on the left of the photo below.
Re Fr. Matt Horgan (1779-1849) of Blarney and his connection with Daniel Maclise the following:
In 1832 Daniel Maclise made an excursion through Oxford and the midland counties of England, before travelling to Ireland, via Holyhead. Accompanied by Crofton Croker, he arrived in Cork, where they were guests of honour at the All Hallow’s Eve party which was held annually, in a large barn, by Fr. Mathew Horgan, parish priest at Blarney. Fr. Horgan (1774-1849) was well-known as an idealistic, scholarly and energetic pastor, who shared his interest in Irish language and history with Cork antiquarians John Windele and Abraham Abell. Maurice Craig records the earliest example of the Hiberno-Romanesque revival in Ireland as being the round tower built by Horgan in the churchyard at Ballygibbon, near Blarney, in 1837. [M. Craig, p. 301] Horgan also designed churches at White Church and Waterloo in the Diocese of Cloyne, as well as the former Cobh Cathedral. [T. F. McNamara, p. 136] The evenings festivities of 1832 at Fr. Horgan’s barn were to be the inspiration for a large painting entitled Snap Apple Night, which Maclise exhibited at the Royal Academy the following year. Maclise’s biographer, Justin O’Driscoll describes the party:
It was the invariable custom of the good priest to invite a large party on All Hallows Eve; it was a social gathering where persons of superior position in society were to be found unaffectedly mingling with the poorest peasantry of the parish. Crofton Croker and Maclise were invited to this entertainment, and whilst the young artist, charmed with the novelty of the scene, surrendered himself heart and soul to the enjoyment of the night and joined in the harmless hilarity that prevailed, he contrived to sketch every group in the barn. [W. J. O’Driscoll, A Memoir of Daniel Maclise R. A. (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1871, p. 31]
Attending Fr. Horgan’s Hallowe’en party as a celebrity guest was only one of a number of honours accorded Maclise on his visit to Cork. Some weeks earlier, on October 1st, as the Cork Constitution related, he and John Hogan were presented with medals by the Society of Fine Arts, ‘on their return to their native city’:
@Praxiteles wrote:
St. Mary’s Church, Buttevant, Co. Cork
The plaster ceiling was installed in 1856 by the Cok architect and archeologist Richard Brash who was also responsible for the Assembly Rooms on the South Mall, Bandon Town Hall and the monumental High Cross erected to the memory of the Cork archeologist John Windele which was executed by Patrick Scannell.
Praxiteles is most grateful to RB for making available Richard Brash’s contarct letter for the ceiling and other internal works at St. Mary’s Church, Buttevant, Co. Cork. The letter is dated 12 June 1855 and reads as follows:
“I propose to execute the Alterations and plastering at the Catholic Church of Buttevant according to the plans and specifications furnished by me for that purpose. That is one set of plans and a specificaton furnished for building the Chancel and sacristy in addition to which I propose to make and erect three sets of red pine frames in the window opes (sic) built up and to fill same with metal sashes glazed with C. glass. Also to provide chiselled lime stone window sills for the above three windows. Also to flag with lime stone flagging that portion of the Nave where the platform is. Also to to (sic) fix a platform across the Chancel 6 feet wide as pointed out by Mr. Buckley with 10 inch step and to cut fix and regulate all the railings. The above work I engage to execute finding all labour materials and except sand and lime for the sum of six hundred and eighty pounds. June 12 1855. Richard Brash“
A further note attached to this letter reads: ” This proposal was afterwards reduced to £650 as Canon Buckley evidently decided to give the preference to Mr. Brash who was an Architect Archeologist and local historian of repute, friend to the Windeles and Fr. Matt Horgan and Fr. Smiddy” .
The Fr. Matt Horgan mentioned here is the famous Parish Priest of Blarney who erected a very interesting Round Tower at Waterloo near Blarney – which again is not surprising as the Cork circle of Archeologists and historians to which he and Windele, Caulfield and Brash belonged had a particular interest in Round Towers and at one stage embarked on a series of (much criticized) “archeological” investigations around the foundations of the Round Tower at Cloyne.
