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It appears that the Parish priest of Bantry is open to receiving comments and submissions on his proposals for the interior of St. Finbarr’s church built in 1825 by Brother Micahel Augustine O’Riordan. This is everyone’s opportunity to write to or phone the good Parish Priest whose contact details are:
Very Rev. Canon John O’Donovan PP VF
Address
The Presbytery, Bantry, Co. Cork,Tel
027-50096Mobile
087-8398188@ake wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/474788951/in/set-72157600141174376/ Look here for an exampl e of remarkably fine plastering in a medieval church. The interior of the nave however is not plastered but in consolation the rubblework is about as attractive as could be.
Speaking of ‘rubblework’ look at the masonry break in Clonamery church http://www.flickr.com/photos/58086761@N00/477261589/in/set-72157600157077521/ How infinitely superior the pre-norman tradition was aesthetically.
Re pre-Norman stone work do not forgt the cyclopian stone work at Ardpatrick in Co. Limerick.
Thanks Ake for the lovely shots of St. Mary’s Collegiate Church in Youghal, Co. Cork.
The Chancel details are very interesting. The Chancel itself was rebuilt in the 19th century having been derelict for over a century. The Chancel arch was filled in and the window above opened.
In the restored Chancel you still have the vestiges of the medieval arrangement:
1. The Piscina for disposing of the water used for the wasing of the priest’s hands during Mass and Sedilia (arranged according to the Sarum use of the Cathedral of Salisbury i.e. Priest closest to the Altar, on lower level came the Deacon, and on a lower level -now missing- the Subdeacon). In the Roman usage, the Priest sits in the middle with the Deacon on his right and the Subdeacon on his left.
2. The Easter Sephelcur, opposite the Sedilia, which was used as the Altar of Repose on Maundy Thursday and also contained a figure of the Dead Christ. The original Altar did not survive.
3. At the Chancel arch, you can still see the stairway leading to the Rood Loft which originally closed off the sanctuary.
From to-day’s quondam Cork Examiner:
03 May 2007
Last stand by defenders of a Gaelic clan fortress
THE ‘peasant mentality’ of the vandalism at Tara (Letters, April 30) is hardly adequate to describe the destruction proposed by the NRA at Carrigaphooca Castle Demesne near Macroom in Co Cork.
There are two registered national monuments and a protected structure within its demesne and part of the landscape is listed in the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage category on historic gardens and designed landscapes.
Much more importantly, however, is the fact that Carrigaphooca Castle is the symbolic reference point for the Irish Brigades, as Prof John A Murphy has pointed out. It was from this castle that Justin MacCarthy, Lord of Muskerry and Carrigaphooca, led the first Irish brigade to France with troops from the castle’s hinterland.
A lieutenant-general of France, Justin MacCarthy commanded an estimated 30,000 men in the Irish Infantry Regiment of King Louis XIV (1690). The troops were drawn from the hinterland of Carrigaphooca and Macroom, Cork and Kerry. These legendary Irish brigades fought in every great European war. In 1792, the farewell banner of the Irish brigades was presented by Comte de Provence to Col Edward Stack of the Dillion Regiment at Coblentz. Col Stack was a descendant of the MacCarthy Mór of Carrigaphooca Castle.
It is within this Muskerry/French intellectual aristocratic circle that Edmund Burke (whose mother was a Nagle from Mallow) and Daniel O’Connell (nephew of Count O’Connell) honed their philosophies and political ideals.
Now the setting of Carrigaphooca Castle, this evocative symbol of the dispossessed, is condemned to a compulsory purchase order for a new super Euro route highway when there are two alternative routes.
Gone forever will be the evocative picture of the castle where, in the mist, you can imagine the flying flags of the Irish regiments and soldiers marching on foot. The evocative atmosphere at Carrigaphooca Castle, stone circle and manor house is a tangible reminder of these Irish brigades. The NRA is proposing now to obliterate the entire setting of the castle, the remnants of its bawn and its associated manor house by placing a four-lane highway and two flyovers less than 200 metres from the castle door.
Thus the visual amenity of the castle, which has stood for 800 years, is utterly destroyed for future generations.
Carrigaphooca Castle was built by Dermot MacCarthy, brother to Cormac Láidir, who built Blarney Castle. As Prof Murphy reminded us, it is on route to Muckross Abbey and Kilcrea Abbey both built by the MacCarthy Mór clan. This is the Gaelic royal route of our chieftains and should be preserved as a heritage trail.
WB Yeats included a story from Carrigaphooca Castle in his collection of Irish Fairie Tales.
We are, indeed, a petty people.
Eileen Stack Shanahan
Carrigaphooca
Castle House
Macroom
Co CorkKentstown, Co. Meath. The parish church was recently renovated without resort to the kind of wreckovation that is unfortunately all too common.
@Rhabanus wrote:
If only it could be restored to its pristine purity! The ceiling over the sanctuary seems odd, though, both in the original disposition and subsequently in the renovation of the 1940s. In fact, in the latter the ceiling, although arched, seems even lower than before. Had there been some kind of canopy or gallery over it in the original arrangement?
I wonder what happened to the panels that flanked the sanctuary. They were replaced later by stations of the cross. The side altars installed later do little to enhance the sanctuary. Perhaps the pulpit may turn up in the basement or in a garage nearby. One can only hope.
Can a moratorium on wreckovation of historic churches not be invoked?
That is what is hoped by insisting on the application of the Planning and Developemnt Act of 2000.
In the case of Cobh, however, it is clear that the Urban District Council cannot be trusted to administer the Act. Its officials, as we have seen, are quite prepared to leave any old vandal enter the Cathedral at any time of the day or night and dig holes in the floor and they are not willing to do anything about it.
@Spinal Tap wrote:
@CasaNova wrote:
Ah the “River” that ignored stretch or waterways that defines Cork city ignored by planners and developers alike.
See Merchants Quay and North Main St Shopping centres,Port of Cork Buildings behind the custom house falling down as their yards are used as a car park.No pavements,Seating,Trees at Georges Quay and Batchelors Quay amongst others,Cars parked right up to the Quay at the School of Commerce,dilapadated lighting at Patricks bridge,rotten balustrading and handrails,
The potential for Cork is the south facing stretch in front of the Clarion Hotel etc. compared to the mess in front of the Lapps Quay development.Should we send the councillors on a few junkets to Bruge,Amsterdam or Hamburg to show them how a river(s) through a city centre works ?
I fear that would not be economic expenditure. Some are beyond instruction of even the most basic kind!
Here we have three photographs of St. Finnbar’s in Bantry built 1837 by Brother O’Riordan
1. Shows the original interior of the church.
2. Shows the present interior of the church after a series of works carried out in the 1940s (which are unfortunate)
3. The outside viw of the church.
It would appear that the altar rails are also due for demolition in Bantry.
Praxiteles now hears that the parish priest of Bantry intends to gut the interior of the Parish Church. One of the prime targets is the depiction of the Crucifixion over the present High ALtar. very efforts is being being made to denigrade the artistic qualities of the picture so as to enable its removal. However, I hops that someone out tere realizes that this picture -or perhaps its original version- was placed there whenthe church was built in the 1820s by Brother Michael Augustine O’Riordan. The picture is forms part of an sanctuary suite of pictures as can be seen from St Berrahane’s in Castlehaven and from the chapel of the Ursuline nuns in Blackrock. If it it needs restoration then please restore it. But, do not lets have the guff that it simply of no relevance.
Andrea di Buonaiuto’s ceiling fresco of the calming of the Tempest on the vault of the Spanish Chapel in Santa Maria Novella in Florence.
Some of the details from Andrea di Buonaiuto’s fresco in the Spanish Chapel of Santa Maria Novella in Florence from the mysteries of Christ’s Passion:
1. The Carrying of the Cross
2. The Crucifixion
3. The Descent into Hell
4. The Resurrection
5. The Ascension
Some further views of the Spanish Chapel in Santa Maria Novella in Florence built by Fra Iacopo Talenti da Nipozzano between 1345 and 1355 and decorated by Andrea di Buonaiuto 1365-1367:
1. The Left wall showing the glorification of St. Thomas Aquinas
2. The Right wall showing St. Dominic and the work of the Dominican Order
3. The vault of the Chapel
4. A detail of the eorks of the Dominican Order: the black and white Domini-canes (The Hounds of the Lord) protect the sheep of the flock.
St. Joseph’s Cathedral, Dunedin, New Zeland
St. Joesph’s was hacked to pieces in 1970 but a group of people saved the High Altar and had it installed in the local museum. The usual barbarity was done on the sancturay of the cathedral. A further renovation took place in 1990s which saw the return of the High Altar.
The photographs below show St. Joseph’s before, after, and after the after.
Just get a look at this mouthful of guff published by Paddy Jones on the webpage of the National Center for Liturgy.
The extract is taken from the minutes of the 2006 meeting of the Liturgical Commission of the Irish Bishops Conference chaired by the bold bishop himself:
“The decision of An Bord Pleanála to refuse planning permission for the liturgical reordering of St Colman’s Cathedral, Cobh is a matter of grave concern. However, it is noted that the process of applying for permission was carefully and professionally conducted by the bishop and diocese, including the involvement of the Historic Churches Advisory Committee and the following of Architectural Heritage Protection guidelines. It is also noted that the Board accepts the necessity of liturgical reordering of churches, though rejecting a particular design plan for this cathedral”.
Here we have a good example interactive autoeroticism and the narcissistic assurance that everything is rosey in the garden no matter what!!
It is a very strange thing that these minutes should say that the “bishop and diocese” had acted carefully and professionally when making the application to wreck Cobh Cathedral. If memory serves us correctly, neither the bishop nor the diocese applied for anything. The application to wreck Cobh Cathedral was made by the Trustees of Cobh Cathedral chief among them being Tom “Tidytowns” Cavanagh of Fermoy. And as far as the diocese of Cloyne is concerned, there seems to have been a certain amnesia about the 24,000 persons who signed a petition against the wreckage. Then of course there is the “professionalism” which was attached to the bold hishop being publicly caught out telling lies. As for the Cloyne HACK, that body is so gereatric that very cold winter could bring major changes to its composition!
The full horror can be garnered from the following link:
Talking of church restoration: here we have a case of church completion. St Lorenzo in Florence built by Brunelleschi between 1420-1440. The facade was never finished but plans had been drawn up as early as 1517 by Michaelangelo for the project. It now looks as though the Florentines are finally about to build the facade to the 1517 plans:
@Rhabanus wrote:
And who is the striking figure on the pastor’s right (viewer’s left)? The Lord High Executioner? The Lord Bishop? Or The Lord High Everything Else? Whoever he may be, the mobile telephone attached to his belt denotes a personage of high importance.
Sicut invenitur in pagina sacra: “Ubicumque fuerit corpus, illuc congregabuntur aquilae.” (Mt 24:27)
Looks like a meeting of the local Sanhedrin. Do they often meet like this in the wilderness?
“When shall we three meet again
In thunder, lightning, or in rain?”–From Macbeth (I, i, 1-2)
could be the curate?
Praxiteles forgot to mention that the proposed Hacking of Liscarroll is being aided and abetted by an architect in Mallow, Co. Cork by the name of :
Kevin O’Keeffe Architects ltd.
Annabella, Mallow, Co. CorkWe shall have to give careful consideration to this candidate as a possibility for nomination for the Will Dowsing sanctuary steps demolition award!
