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- August 10, 2008 at 4:08 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771803
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ParticipantAll Saints, Barton Irwell
The Chancel seen from the nave.
The High Altar
The panels of the reredos depict, left side, the Nativity of Our Lord and the Adoration of the Magi with the carrying of the Cross and the Cruucifixion on the right side.
August 10, 2008 at 3:57 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771802Praxiteles
ParticipantAll Saints, Barton Irwell.
West elevation showing gallery and rose window.
August 10, 2008 at 3:54 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771801Praxiteles
ParticipantAll Saints Barton on Irwell.
South side and west door with the arms of the de Trafford family of Trafford Park (who built the church) at either side.
August 10, 2008 at 3:52 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771800Praxiteles
ParticipantSome shots of E.W. Pugin’s All Saints at Barton Irwell near Manchester.
The ensemble here of church and detached presbytery is quite similar to the church of the Sacred Heart built by him and G.C.Ashlin at Monkstown, Co. Cork.
August 9, 2008 at 9:21 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771796Praxiteles
ParticipantHas anybody seen the efforts of the OPW on the Skellig Michael and particularly their apparent efforts to rebuild the monastic site there? I wonder whether this might not be another example of the kind of thing that we saw in relation to their efforts to rebuild Cormac’s Chapel.
August 8, 2008 at 6:53 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771795Praxiteles
Participant@johnglas wrote:
It’s difficult to understand why there is not a move to reinstate roodscreen and altars; they already have a ‘temporary’ (movable) nave altar and if the two discarded altars are as unique as suggested, then this reinforces the case. With the current vogue for the ‘older use’ of Mass, this would all make perfect sense. If Benedict’s re-reform of the mass takes root, you will suddenly find lots of apologists for destruction becoming advocates of ‘restoration’. Watch this space.
They are a spineless lot and fickle to the end.
July 29, 2008 at 3:09 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771786Praxiteles
ParticipantAll Saints Barton on Irwell
Part of the surviving original fresco work on the south side
July 29, 2008 at 3:05 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771785Praxiteles
ParticipantAll Saints at Barton on Irwell
The dry-rot endangered ceiling of the chancel
July 28, 2008 at 11:24 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771784Praxiteles
Participant@ake wrote:
I don’t know if this was posted before so I’ll just post it again if it was;
Pugin reredos restored at Leeds Cathedral
http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.com/2008/01/pugin-reredos-restored-at-leeds.html
And some fantastic pics of Leeds C. here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paullew/sets/72157603655443127/
Have any similar Pugin designed reredos survived in Ireland?
I fear not!
July 25, 2008 at 2:34 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771783Praxiteles
ParticipantAnd some further examples
July 25, 2008 at 2:33 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771782Praxiteles
ParticipantSome examples of the Minton tiles from the floor of All Saints at Barton on Irwell (by E W Pugin), near Manchester
July 23, 2008 at 10:07 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771776Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Holy Name of Jesus Manchester
Chancel lateral chapel
July 23, 2008 at 10:05 am in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771775Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Holy Name of Jesus Manchester, the reredos of the Lady Chapel
July 22, 2008 at 6:13 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771773Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Holy Name of Jesus, Manchester
The west end
July 22, 2008 at 6:12 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771772Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Holy name of Jesus, Manchester
The screens on the north wall behind which are set the confessionals.
July 22, 2008 at 6:11 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771771Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Holy Name of Jesus, Manchester.
The screen before the side chapels on the South side.
The dividing walls were removed and the individual chapels demolished to create a large “sacred” space. However, the dividing walls waere essential to the structural integrity of the south side and their removal occasioned serious structural pproblems that resulted in the reinsertiuon of the dividing walls. To-date, the side chapels are being reinstalled as suitable material salvaged from other churches and chapels becomes available.
July 22, 2008 at 6:06 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771770Praxiteles
ParticipantThe Holy Name of Jesus, Manchester.
Here we have the High Altar. Miraculoausly, this survived a terrible outburst of iconoclasm which saw the final Jesuit comminity at the Holy Name of Jesus send their extensive collection of relics to the Manchester Crematorium!!
July 22, 2008 at 6:05 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771769Praxiteles
ParticipantSome shots of the Holy name of Jesus in Manchester.
This is Hansom’s exercise in the neo Gothic for the Manchester Jesuits.
This is a view of the sacristy which has a complete set of plans and drawings on display. Two of them are above the evsting bench.
July 21, 2008 at 5:29 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771767Praxiteles
ParticipantOn a different subject, can anyone suggest a list a neo byzantine churches in Ireland?
July 19, 2008 at 6:45 pm in reply to: reorganisation and destruction of irish catholic churches #771766Praxiteles
ParticipantWE are all well aware of the dangers of “restoration” from the debacle of what happened at Cobh Cathedral and we can certainly justify maximum vigilance when it comes to further proposals for this building.
However, such “restoration” disasters are not unusual. Another example must surely be E. W. Pugin’s All Saints at Barton upon Irwill. The church was built by him between 1865 and 1868 at a cost of £25,000 supplied by the descndants of the local recusant lords or the manor of Trafford, the de Trafford family. The very best of craftsmanship and material went into the building and decoration of the church. In some respects, this was E. W. Pugin’s chance to rival his father’s church at Cheadle, done for the Marquis of Shrewsbury.
Bewteen 1985 and 1991 extensive “restoration” was undertaken at enormous expense with monies supplied by private and public benefactors. The initial results seemed (from the photographs) very promising and those from the re-opening in 1991 suggest that the church once again looked as it had in 1868.
However, on entering the church today, it is almost derelict. Large tracts of it have been infected by dry rot – most notoriously the gilt decorated ceiling of the sanctuary which appears to be on the verge of collapse. The painted and frescoed decoration of the nave and side aisles seem to have simply vanished. The famous fresco of the adoration of the lamb on the Spouth wall of the chancel which contains a portrait of E. W. Pugin is in the most precarious state and in urgent need of professional attention if it is to be saved from vanishing off the wall. A very harsh coloured glass was installed in the west rose at the time of the 1985/1991 retoration. The original glass was removed during the war and never replaced. We are told that it went AWAL. How, may we ask, can this have happened?
It is interesting that something similar appears to be happening in Cobh CAthedral. After a much publicised and highly expensive restoration, the building is in a shambles and possibly in a worse structural condition than before the so called restoration of the 1990s began. Now, another “reastoration” is proposed and contracts awareded to “conservationists” who, as far as a major ecclesiastical building of international significance is concerned, are untried. We are told that the easily impressionable Cobh Town Council are, undersatbdably, “impressed” – but then they could be relied on to build a hay shed. What, we might ask, is going to happen if the next “restoration” in Cobh is going to leave the building even more delapidated than it presently is?
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