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@iloveCORK2 wrote:
Fair enough, name the shops your think that should be there and how feasible would they be for a place like Ballincollig?
Lexington, you know the way you said they were going to extend the shopping centre northwards, well isn’t the multi-storey carpark and apartments in the way. U have any plans/photos of the extension of how the extension well look, so as to visualise it. Thanks
Well there’s obviously the footfall and the business if there’s a shopping centre of such a size there in the first place. Let’s face it, it’s a high profile development. For a start, I think i speak on behalf of everyone when i express disappointment at the presence of Dunnnes instead of Marks ‘n Sparks, as was initally speculated. If Marks saw the centre as a feasible prospect, then i think my point is somewhat proved. I would have liked to see more high-end fashion retailers present, maybe HMV or Virgin as the music stores, better restaurant/fast food elements etc, but maybe in the future.
@iloveCORK2 wrote:
Who cares if there are big names or not, people just want the everyday basics in a better setting…
Alot of people care if there are big names or not, simply put people aren’t going to be willing to travel if there isn’t the incentive or the attraction. And seeing as there is a sizeable catchment, and one which is set to grow alot, coupled with much improved access, I for one am surprised at the mediocrity of the tenant list. If i wanted everyday basics i wouldnt shop outside of Dunnes…looking for a bit more than that.
I gotta say the line-up in the shopping centre is a bit of a joke, from my point of view anyway, absolutely no big names at all.
Any progression on tenants for the remainder of the units??Are people just afraid to admit the new school of music looks crap? I just hope it turns out to be more appealing in the flesh
@PDLL wrote:
Here is a classic example of where not to build a high rise building – it would stick out like a sore thumb and would have not context – it would be tied to none of the surrounding architecture. Now put this in Dublin’s docklands and we might be making a little progress. Again, this is an example – if it is for real – of the type of proposal that raises people’s heckles about high rises in Ireland.
I agree with you in that the particular building proposed would not have context, given it’s utter ugliness, but i do not agree with your opening statement, i would consider this as a prime location for a stand-alone landmark tower, given it’s iconic status, and if tastefully done could really define and complement the surrounds.
Anyway, im afraid my knowledge of new galway developments is limited so i’ll let ye guys at it..Yeh, from what i hear Achill is an amazing experience, been meaning to drive up there for a while, time doesn’t tend to be in my favour these days though! With all this acclaim for Wicklow, must try and get up there too.
@lexington wrote:
😎 Cork County Council have permitted the development of a new hotel at Owenahinch, Little-Island. The 207-bedroom proposal is being developed by Irish & European Properties (Dublin) and will include a conference centre, swimming pool, spa and other leisure facilities, car parking, restaurant, bar and 2 retail units.
For anyone who is confused or unaware, this hotel is not being developed at Little Island near Cork City, but in West Cork, at Owenahincha, where there is also an area known as Little Island. I was looking at the planning on the Council website, and surprisingly enough they didn’t stress this, they simply left it as ‘Little Island’, misleading a few people i’m sure.
Also, the developers behind the proposed apartments at Victoria Cross, ie. on the former car showroom site, towards Orchard Road, seem confident of securing the go-ahead, they’ve already erected a sign advertising a ‘proposed apartment development’, a tactic that seems to be employed more and more recently by developers, amounts to little more than propaganda in my opinion. However, i quite like this scheme, should lend a bit more architectural merit to the area in light of some of the more recent additions.
Btw, wasn’t aware of Hegarty’s presence in Victoria Cross, what are they up to across the road, next to the Fleming development?
@securityman wrote:
Mallow, I was down on site today and it looks a nice set up on the first floor there is a number of shops and a cinema on the next level is residential and there is car parking spaces for 450 underneath. It is set to open next month there is also retail and residential across from the main square included in this is Heatons. I know who the main tenants are but it is to be kept secret until everything is sorted out with contracts etc but its no suprise.
Well, by the way you’re talking i’m gonna take it Dunnes are making the move from the main street. Like you say, no surprise, unless i’m mistaken.
One of my fave roads is the N25 parkway section of the Cork-Waterford route, from Dunkettle to Carrigtwohill, and on to Midleton. I travel this road to work every morning and evening, and yet i never cease to be taken with the views of Cork harbour, and how the road snakes through the estuary. Travelling from east to west, just where the railway passes beneath the road, there are some fantastic views down to Passage West, especially impressive on a Summer’s evening.
However, my favourite road, by no means the ‘best’ road, would be the coast road between Clonakilty and Kinsale, the R600, and briefly the R604 if you take the Old Head/Garretstown option. Again, on a summer’s eve it can be a beautiful drive. Further west, there are some other great one’s too, for instance the R592 to Mizen Head, or the R572 down the Beara Peninsula.
Sorry for deviating from the topic of ‘best’ and ‘worst’ roads, but i do find these worth mentioning, for what they may lack in standard they make up for in location and vistas!@dave123 wrote:
this is one of the nicst red brick buildings i have seen in a long time !
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[/align:3vpluyeb]Ya think? Can’t say i like it, more of the same bland, boxy, small-windowed fare i reckon. Maybe to see it in person might do it more justice. My favourite red brick building of recent times is on Camden Quay in Cork, though it is a pity they didn’t colour co-ordinate it with the rest of the buildings on Camden Place, it’s a different shade and hence doesn’t fit into the surrounds as much as it might.
Where is the building you posted?I agree with this in theory, just as long as the council’s vision is solid. I mean isn’t this already the case somewhat?ie. various development plans laying down guidelines for areas and even specific sites.
I take your point though Kite, CSD are again over-reacting and reading way too deep into this statement.@Radioactiveman wrote:
…Fleming are on site building a 125 rooom luxury Hotel with Penthouse suites, a raft of ‘lodges’ (aka houses for the obscenely wealthy), an extensive marina and a second – yes, a second 18-hole Golf Course. Why an island that small requires a second course we’ll never know.
Couldn’t an alternative use been found for this space? Scenic walkways, picnic spots? isn’t one Golf course enough to fill the hotel?Being involved in the project myself, I must correct you – it is a nine hole golf course which is being developed, alongside the old course, and on open space – no destruction of the woodland is involved. The old road to the golfcourse has been realigned around the extension, and alot of effort is going into the landscaping, in order to complement the surrounds as much as possible. As for the hotel, it being contained in the vicinity of the clubhouse, and is of tasteful design. I do admit it is a pity that such scale of development is taking place, in particular the extent of the housing project, i’m surprised this one passed through the planning process, it really shows the lack of policy as regards public amenity space within the council. I do think the marina is a good idea, however im not sure what the story will be as regards access, i can find out, or whether it will even make it through the planning process.
As for the hotel, will post some pictures up soon, progress is come along nicely, most of the concrete is being poured at the moment. No operator yet, expect an opening of april/may next year.
@manstein wrote:
why is that? I would have thought that CAD technicans would be in high demand or is it a case of architects doing this kinda work first before they move on…
Well I was referring to dedicated technicians, because depending on the project engineers tend to do some or all of the detailed drawings themselves, seeing as they will be interpreting them anyway. I suppose I’m being a tad downbeat by saying such jobs are in short supply, with the construction industry booming and all, but such specialist jobs are always hard to find without the experience. Everyone’s gotta start somewhere though, so it does help to have contacts, or do commission work first. However I myself am not a CAD technician, so unfortunately my advice is limited!
Who have you applied to?If you have any contacts at all you should try and first get some experience, anywhere, before applying to any big firms – employers always prefer a bit of experience. Otherwise just keep trying, jobs aren’t always easy to come by in this profession.
There are 2 properties in Millcove, Rosscarbery, one of which is right beside the water, and has a swimming pool, the other which is elevated above the water and has a tennis court.Both are detached and definitely meet the acre requirement, well secluded too. The one with the swimming pool is probably more the style you seem to be advocating.
If they’re not quite what you’re looking for, I suggest trying either Glandore or Schull, some fine properties there, esp. on the Colla Road in Schull.@lexington wrote:
… I have no doubt New York would be near impossible to live in, without going crazy, were it not for Central Park and its extensive open green-areas like Sheep’s Meadow.
So what can we wish for with the Kinsale Road “Landfill” Park? Will the council engage the wisdom and detail of such famous parks? A waterfall here and there? Stream walkways? Timber bridges? Open green spaces? Dense tree coverage? Gazebos? Or is that too much to expect? :rolleyes: Here’s hoping.
Yeh, long-term, it is vital to develop the Kinsale Road Landfill properly, and by properly I mean as a vibrant quarter in itself, not another unkempt ‘token’ greenspace. It really has the potential to become an important asset, and given the projected and probable future growth of the city, I don’t think the fact that it’s current ‘isolation’ should prove too much of a problem. What the City Council needs to do is to integrate the facility, connect it with other parts of the city via cycle lanes, walkways, buses etc – the Blackash park ‘n ride could even serve it short-term. I hope a proper job is made of this, that it becomes a place where people actually want to go, and not just another Phoenix park 😮
Anyone been to Chicago? Perhaps the finest example i can think of for promoting ‘parkitecture’, virtually the whole lakefront is public amenity, with miles of cyclelanes, trees, fountains, flowerbeds, museums etc., really well designed, serving as a buffer bewtween the highrise and the water, really great. So there definitely is more than enough inspiration out there to make a decent attempt at the landfill, just keep those fingers crossed..Wow, you know i gotta say im impressed with all this development in Limerick of late, and especially some of the proposals im seeing, alot of the earlier development (late 90’s) didn’t do much for me, but definitely alot of thought and effort going into sprucing up the city in general now, not just the waterfront. Keep it up!
@kite wrote:
Im sure most of us would agree with you, had more time to go through this site. What is going on in Cork? According to the CSD site there is a motion before CCC to ban any development over 3 stories in the suburbs from councillor David McCarthy FF!!!
Tell me this is not true ? check it out on http://www.corksouthwest.com the anti high rise website…Are these people stupid?!!I mean this is ignorance, pure ignorance. The extract from the website further up just proves it – do they expect the whole docklands to be transformed with the wave of a magic wand or wot??Obviously never heard of the phrase ‘Rome wasn’t built in a day’, and they obviously havent been along Lapp’s Quay lately. haha who are they kidding. ban high rise my arse. Maybe if they try reasoning in a realistic and professional manner, people might try listening, but to be honest i can’t take anybody who considers 3 stories + as highrise seriously, They should really reconsider their campaign, and focus it away from such propaganda and scare tactics. I mean the picture of ‘Jurys’ beats all. I do appreciate their concerns and empatize with them to a certain extent but this is fooling no-one! I hope :o.I do have to agree tho, as im sure most people do, about Victoria Mills. Im pretty sure it would be viewed pretty dimly by any technical graphics teacher alright. I call it duploland myself, u know those big lego blocks?! Now that’s an idea, might set about building a replica, could post the picture up too….
