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@shanekeane wrote:
That’s true. Well it’s nice from one angle and then revolting from another, where you can see how it kind of fans out on the top. But, in fairness, Cork in general has a grey and ugly city centre and that’s probably one of the most interesting things there right now.
Wow. Bet you’re one of these people who’d be all for tearing down half the city centre and replacing it with shoddy apartment blocks. What about the character and history? With the exception of parts of North Main Street and the likes, Cork is anything but grey and ugly. And I wouldn’t even consider comparing the Elysian with the city centre ‘in general’…
Had my first proper look around Limerick for the first time in ages on Friday, and I’ve gotta say the place blew me away. Some really fantastic developments going on, and completed, the city centre in particular is quite impressive, while all out the Dublin Road as far as the Annacotty Roundabout is undergoing huge change. The UL area looked great! I’ve got to say developers/architects in Limerick have some balls and imagination, and haven’t been afraid to push the boundaries. A bit more of that attitude elsewhere wouldn’t go astray…
Updated images of proposed Howard Holdings Docklands Development, planning due to be lodged early in the new year…
Not bad…
Happy Christmas everyone!
Hmmm, everytime I see the Grand Parade Plaza proposal it seems to take a step backwards. The original looked great but they seem to be bulking it up and making a pure hames of it.
Also just want to vent my disgust at any concept of zoning the City Council have, I just passed the Raven area on S.M. St. and saw a planning notice on the empty unit next to Hoggy’s that they seem to be working on, hoping it would be for some sort of bar/niteclub type facility, in keeping with and consolidating the emerging image of this area, but noooo its for a bookmakers, what a disaster, sickened. :confused:
Hmm, looks like the worst elements of the Elysian and that Copley St. development stuck together and scaled up to me….or that proposal for Kyrl’s Quay…even reminds me of the FรยS building….I’m not at all impressed, really cheap looking. How about some tasteful red brick/glass/stone, a bit of variety and imagination dammit!
@malec wrote:
I don’t think it’s the scale that’s the problem, I don’t have any problem with height. It’s just the blandness and the desire to be the cheapest that’s humanly possible.
Oh its not so bad, alot better than the origianl proposal which was HORRIFIC, I nearly got sick when I saw it. And I do think it is the scale which is the problem. Patrick St. elevation needs to be scaled way back, Grand Parade slightly, however that could be done, while the facade alongside the English Market is admittedly just plain unacceptable, there was a render of it on the examiner back along. It is basically a blank cladded wall, rising way above the market, and totally ruining all views of it. These guys need their heads screwed on if they think they can get away with that.
I’ve gotta say recent developments in Limerick have done nothing but impress me, some top class buildings capitalising on the mistakes of the early boom years. And if projections and rumours are true, much more to come. A recent trip there left me quite impressed I must say!
@who_me wrote:
I wasn’t aware this was moving on so quickly! (Unusual for Cork…)
Have images of the development been posted? One of the facades at the front of the building is quite nice, it’d be a shame if it were knocked. ๐
The Patrick Street facade is being retained, predictably, it being the original frontage. I do consider it quite bland, but appreciate its significance and it does seem to fit in with the adjoining buildings. As for the new build, a render of the rear end facing Emmet Square was posted way back on the LADSOCL thread, but I don’t have the energy to go trawling through it right now to find it, but I can tell you it was not the most inspiring piece of architecture I have seen, but I’ll reserve judgement for the time being. Design is by Bertie Pope & Associates, but I don’t think there’s anything on their website in the way of images.
@Leesider wrote:
few developments I haven’t hear anything about recently, first the proposed development on Clontarf St what is the story with that? And the Kino as well thought that was to get a makeover? Also when is the redevelopment of Dunnes on Pana supposed to be starting?
Dunnes have closed, and several buildings at the rear have already been demolished, so I guess it has started!
darkman wrote:I think this building is 70 metres tall. Is it?Anyhow for a small city like Cork to even have that is good in my view. Realistically demand for housing or offices would constrain the asspirations of developers to go taller then this IMO. I just dont think Cork can sustain a few 70 metre buildings never mind taller ones. Anyway you can all be delighted that for the next few months you have the tallest building in the state]
We’ve been delighted for the last 40 years ๐
@Micko wrote:
Anyone know whats happening with the Western Star ?
Well it looks shut, and has done for the last while. There was a piece on the Examiner about its absence being missed during UCC Rag Week, though they didn’t elaborate as such. But to the best of my knowledge a section of the back is being knocked and redeveloped as medical suites, including the beer garden. Quite a shame, it really was the ultimate student pub in Cork, though there was a significant falloff in trade in recent times, due in part to the lack of interest of the owners, with this development on the card for a while now…
@bosco wrote:
By the way, speaking of the docklands (earlier), what would ye think of something like this for Cork….
Not a whole lot…too blocky and plain/bland…tower isn’t so bad…
@rebel_city wrote:
Hey,
I know that the answer to my question is all over this thread, but I’ve been searching for the past while and I can’t seem to find it! Probably due to staring at a computer screen all day! I am wondering what is the total sq footage being created by the Academy street development and the Cornmarket street development? Any news on prospective tenants? Habitat has been thrown around before. Also any update on the Grand Parade hotel site? I was in Cork during “The Christmas” but never got a chance to check that one out!
It was great being home last week, town was buzzing and looked great. Rory Gallagher place / around by The Raven etc all really lively! The OPC street lights grew on me after a few days. Will they be a permanent fixture? I appreciate Cork alot more now that I’m living in Dublin for 2 years!!:) Easier to get around to shops, good buzz and slightly cheaper! ๐
Check out this brochure, has quite a bit of info on the Cornmarket Centre development:
http://www.joneslanglasalle.ie/NR/rdonlyres/7C842978-3BCB-4DAE-87E6-BB9CC271E16E/21274/TheCornmarketCentre.pdf
@Micko wrote:
Adding a slip road from the Douglas Road onto the South Ring Road going west would do an awful lot for improving the traffic situation in Douglas.
There’s a lot of traffic being forced to go up the Rochestown road for no reason trying to get onto the South Ring Road.
Hear Hear. It’s ludicrous as is. You can only get off coming from the west, or on going to the west. Eastbound you have no choice but to use the nigthmarish Rochestown Road all the way out to Bloomfield.
There are obviously serious spatial constraints, and adding an eastbound merge would probably require CPOing those two houses nearest the N25.
Adding a westbound diverge into Douglas would be relatively easy, and could tie in nicely with the proposed Clyaton Love roads plan…Maybe not so unlikely. Did any of ye not hear of a rumoured รขโยฌ100 million development plan? It made its way to the front page of the echo, which I admit is hardly the most reliable or accurate of sources. Haven’t heard anything in a while though…
Todays examiner has a piece about updated plans to develop the Neville building on Lapp’s Quay, right next to O’Flynn’s no. 5/6 development, to incorporate the existing sandstone warehouse. From what I can gather it will be office-orientated, and could involve anything up to 5 or 6 stories.
@mickeydocs wrote:
Is Eden Village in construction?
As far as I know it has been for 6 months, maybe more.
