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Participantpatience is a virtue, and i think you will just have to wait.
not sure if it comes online at midnight or in the early morning
go do something esle for a couple of hours.
play frisbee
have dinner
walk your dogpepe
Participantapparently its one of the ones that has been exhibited in the gallery!
you will just have to wait for the times article tommorrow.
or take your pick
not sure if ithas taken it down though????
it seems there should be something on the times website tommorow though
pepe
ParticipantSounds like these guys are from/work for FOG???
No. 168
Edwin Chan & Graig Webb
Gehry Partners, LLP
Los Angeles
U.S.A.Whats the deal with the missing box/entry. between no 57a and no 61. could be nothing. BUt it doesnt make sense that its there?
How many of these entries do you have on line in the gallery?
pepe
Participantok
so now i should be able to get promoted from a junior member!
coming of agepepe
Participantthanks paul
but now i only have nine posts!pepe
ParticipantIs Paul the infamous elarchitino.
If so
I really like your biro designs/cartoons
you should try and get a weekly strip in an architecture/design magazine
reason i suspect this is i have tried to change my “status” and have not been able to:
It seems you need an administrator to do this.And i dont believe that he is “the real u2 tower winner”
but he does not accept emails
or personal messagesand he only joined the forum in September!
pepe
ParticipantThats funny
But what makes you think you can change your status to saying “the real u2 tower winner”i think you should offer some proof or get to the back of the queue!
do not pass go and do not collect EURO 12,000
or your EURO 100 entry fee refund!
pepe
Participantb ray
collaborate away
If paul has the images of the winner and posts them on the boards then people can download it and make their own iron on patch and make their own t shirt with their own slogan.
Or just add it on with marker penwe could do keyrings aswell!
a couple of hundred people doing this would definitely make an impact at the opening night.
But i guess they are keeping that highsecurity and invited guests only as no doubt the band members will be there?????
Whens the grand opening?
On the thursday?
could make an interesting evening
pepe
ParticipantShadow
Were you an entrant?
Is there a private view/opening party?pepe
Participantwhere did you get this information?
i cant find anything on the DDDA website??
have you been invited?
pepe
ParticipantOk.
so is it public or is it invite only.
Are all entrants invited.
are they going to reveal the “mystery winner”?
If they dont comment, are people prepared to protest.
There was an article in bd yesterday by charlie gates.dont think its online.
but email cgates@cmpinformation if you want a copy of it/dont get the magazine in ireland?
pepe
ParticipantMarch 02, 2003
U2 in ‘favourites’ row over studio
Scott MillarA COMPETITION to design a studio for U2 in Dublin’s docklands has caused an international row after a British candidate claimed the band was showing favouritism.
More than 500 bids to design the building, likely to be Dublin’s highest, were received by the Dublin Docklands Development Authority (DDDA) by last Friday’s deadline. They are believed to include a proposal from Frank Gehry, one of the world’s best-known architects and the designer of the Bilbao Guggenheim museum.
An English architect has lodged a formal complaint with the DDDA, claiming that members of U2 recently visited Gehry’s studio in Santa Monica, California. The judging panel for the architectural competition includes Adam Clayton, a member of the band.
According to the rules of the competition, entrants are to be disqualified if a “participant discloses his or her identity or attempts to influence in any way the decision of the juryâ€.
The complainant said that contact between members of the band and a competitor, which he alleged included discussions about the project, left other entrants with only two options. “One is to boycott the event, something which people who have spent months on their designs will not do,†he said. “Or else create something that would exactly resemble a Frank Gehry building.â€
A spokesman for U2 accepted that Bono and Gehry had a “long-standing friendship which predates the Dublin Docklands competition. Neither Bono or nor Edge has any involvement with the competition. Adam Clayton is due to be one of the panellists who will judge the anonymously submitted entries and I’m sure you can appreciate members of U2 operate as individualsâ€.
Organisers have attempted to play down the row. A spokesman for the DDDA said: “We have received a complaint and are having a look into it, but as the complaint is anonymous, the authority is not unduly concerned.â€
A spokesman for Gehry confirmed that members of U2 have visited the architect’s studio several times over the last few years, including a few months ago. “We never once discussed the Dublin Docklands competition with any members and we are absolutely certain the outcome of the competition will not be influenced on our behalf,†he added.
Other participants are unhappy that the competition was not as widely advertised as before. One complained that it was not advertised on Death by Architecture, a leading website. “A number of my friends in America, who would have loved to have entered, were unaware until too late that the competition was being held,†said the entrant, who also had to remain anonymous or risk expulsion.
The number of submissions has outstripped expectations, however, and it is likely to take several months to judge. Among the 500 entries are several innovative designs including one in the shape of a large sail and another whose gentle sloping form resembles a wave.
There are also less professional entrants. One fan from Spain has entered a building in the shape of a harp, which has been described as “amateur in the extremeâ€.
Jennifer Boyer, an American architect based in Dublin, said the designs show the changes in architectural taste following the destruction of the twin towers. “There has been a huge rethink of the concept of tower building,†she said. “There has been a new thinking to get beyond sheer height which is evident in the designs both to replace the twin towers and here.â€
U2 were initially dismayed at being forced by the DDDA to move out of their studio in a renovated warehouse on the campshire of Hanover Quay. The authority wants to develop the area as an open-space public amenity. After initial protests, the band agreed to move to a new building in docklands.
The new building will house a mix of commercial and residential property as well as the band’s recording studio. The multi-million euro project is due to be completed within three years.
pepe
ParticipantI will simply quote vitruvius as his writing holds alotf wisdom that is often ignored in our times.
“As for philosophy, it makes an architect high-minded and not self-assuming, but rahter renders him courteuos, just and honest without avariciousness. This is very important, for no work can be rightly done without honesty and incorruptibility. Let him not be grasping nor have his mind preoccupied with the idea of receiveing perquisites, but let him with dignity keep up his position by cherishing a good reputation. These are among the preceps of philosophy”
Vitruvius, The ten books of Architecture. Book 1 Chapter 1 “The education of the architect” Section 7
So whilst it may not be possible to remove the members of U2 from the jury. It would be highly commended for Frank Gehry to remove himself or withdraw from the competition. He was not after all present (or indeed refused) to enter the competition for the World Trade Centre Sites
“Frank Gehry won few friends by refusing to take part, suggesting the $40,000 fee for participants was demeaning. “
Deyan Sudjic
Sunday February 2, 2003
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