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@johnny21 wrote:
Treasury owns the lands to the left of the point. They have plans for the site due to be completed 2010!!! 7 storey building!:)
Dear God that building is revolting, what a shocking waste of land to have a sprawl of a structure like that.
Where are the objections to these land robbing monsters?
How can anyone prefer a building like this to something that could use half the amount of land or less?Sure does Greg F, sure does.
I was chattin’ to the friendly security guard at the NCC the other day, not sure how reliable a source he is but he reckons they are constructing ‘Irelands tallest building’ directly behind the confrence centre, an astonishing 20 floors he told me.I’m not defending shopping centres or opposing them because they most definitely serve a purpose in the right circumstance.
but , in New York , Manhattan specifically, which is a pretty urban place to say the least and whose inhabitants generally dislike the whole suburban way of life
there is only one shopping centre that i can think of (manhattan mall) and from what i can see it is not a huge success ,pretty dead somewhat dismal place.I really like Talbot st. Its a bit gritty , rough around the edges, and a nice little ethnic mix to liven it up for me
As for the junkies – bit like the pigeons , filthy creatures (for the most part) but you tolerate them as being a part of European street life.
Hmmm but then again i’ve yet to see a group of pigeons surround a petit asian girl scared out of her wits at 8am trying to make her way to work* in the pissing rain and demand money
*whose taxes help fund the jobless bums
Took a stroll around the new library area out in tallaght yesterday afternoon. Very impressive indeed.
@BostonorBerlin wrote:
Thankfully I just did my US taxes and dont have to fund any of this crap .
LOL!! 😀 So your reasonably satisfied with where your U.S taxes go?
A motorway versus hmmmm, well i think you know.@JoePublic wrote:
I guess given the board’s obvious conservatism it’s clear what the decision will be on Dunne’s Ballsbridge 18 storey planning permission – probably the neighbouring vetinary college site too.
This part of the city centre is not really suited to a 16 storey building (but the view looked quite good coming over the Ha’penny bridge) and im surprised that there wasnt the usual fuss made around these pages, but i dont think Ballsbridge can really compare
I used to be with it, but then they changed what “it” was. Now, what
I’m with isn’t it, and what’s “it” seems weird and scary to me.jimg wrote:I don’t believe the overall form of the archictecture dictates whether such schemes fail or succeed. QUOTE]
I agree. I dont think its the building but whoever inhabits the building will ultimatlely prove whether it fails or succeeds.
Ive been in tenement apts here in the city , extremely badly designed with one or two small bedrooms with rent upwards of 3000 a month, great neighborhoods but the interior layout of the dwellings would be poor . Thats just really the location that sells i suppose.
You could put some types of people in the greatest piece of architecture but it would still be a failureI always figured public housing projects mostly fail/failed, because, for one , peope have no sense of pride or ownership when they are just handed the keys to their almost free home, and second , when entire housing estates or towers were filled with lower income or poorer families they are, as far as i can see , breeding grounds for criminal activity in one form or another.
Of course i would never paint everyone and everywhere with the same brush, but by and large i think this seems to be the case@gunter wrote:
These things are poles, they’re red and white, if we take them down now, what message is that sending out to our largest immigrant community?
I wish DCC would would think these things through.
Ha ha very good!
If they had to stay then it’d be pretty cool if the area was developed along the lines of Chicago’s famous Navy Pier. With year round amusements etc.
With the chimneys converted into what else but a bungee rocket!!!
Keep me out of the pub on a sunday
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[ATTACH]7094[/ATTACH]Its a bit of both. I also dont think they look good .
Its hard to imagine the view without them, but then i picture it and , you know what its not too bad:DWhat i find ugly is more what they represent, Dublin’s tallest, maybe most visible and prominent structures are industrial chimney’s ? What does it say about us?
For a second replace the Eiffel Tower with this power station , wouldnt have the same appeal:D
Maybe i’m looking too deeply into it@GrahamH wrote:
Why do you say that Paul?
I dont really see ugly chimney stacks as our city’s most prominent structures, as being particulary dignified. The same chimneys which might be seen in any dirty industrial plant anywhere in the world.
Thank God for this.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/landmark-chimneys-denied-protected-status-1318383.html
Landmark chimneys denied protected status
Saturday March 15 2008
THEY have featured in numerous postcards and a very famous Guinness ad, but perhaps their most important cameo appearance came when they featured in U2s ‘Pride (In The Name Of Love)’ video.
However, Dublin City Council does not believe the Poolbeg chimneys are iconic enough to place on their Record of Protected Structures.
Following a request from Cllr Dermot Lacey (Lab) to have the landmark ESB chimneys placed on the protected record, city councillors heard that city planners had conducted a survey, history and full assessment of the chimneys.
They concluded from this that while the Poolbeg chimneys were considered to be of a certain level of architectural, social and historical significance, they were not of sufficient value within the meaning of the Planning and Development Act, 2000.
Complex
The twin red and white chimney stacks measure 680 feet in height and were constructed in two phases between 1969 and 1977.
They form one component of a complex of late 20th century industrial structures relating to the production of electricity.
According to Patricia Hyde, Dublin City Council senior planner, the chimneys are functional industrial structures, but have become prominent landmarks in Dublin Bay and as part of the Dublin skyline. “The chimneys are located in a highly industrial area of Dublin Bay. (They) have become a focus of sentiment to the local community,” she said.
– Niall Bourke
