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@CologneMike wrote:
The ABC’s for Planning Permission
Maybe the developer should invest in a do-it-yourself manual like “Planning Applications for Dummies†He is really making a meal out of it! :rolleyes:
Fuckin’ A! ! !
@tradcentric wrote:
Actually there are plenty of shopping centres in England with bars in them so it’s not that unusual.
That’s absolutely true, of course, as there are many all over the world. Just some light-hearted banter is all mate. ~ ~ 😀 ~ ~
@CologneMike wrote:
Building Shell
Does this developer (01261, 04600) know what he wants? :confused: Has there been any movements on finishing this shell? When I was home last October the developer was instead building (00449) across the road on an old site surrounded by high walls embedded in the Watergate flats complex.
Image courtesy Motormouth
Good God how miserable is that?:eek:
Is this the work of a master builder, or what?:rolleyes:
@PoxyShamrock wrote:
No, The Park Bar closed in late 2004.
Honestly though, when you think of it, a pub in a shopping centre. Only in Ireland.
And that’s a goddamn fact my friend.:D
Just thinking of the Parkway retail centre, didn’t there used to be a bar/restaurant/nightclub in that complex? If so, is it still there? Around to the side, from the main entrance, I think?
Oh, is it true there is no cinema in Limerick City centre? I was told this recently. How come? O’Connell Street would be a great location for a cinema. I mean, you need a cinema in the city centre for gods sake. You can’t expect people leisurely walking down the street in town who simply fancy going to see a movie there and then to have to drive or jump on a bus or get a taxi out to the burbs just to see a movie, right? That’s just sooo inconvenient and annoying!:mad: 😡 😡 Are there any plans for a cinema somewhere in the city centre? Ummm…. surely with all the development and construction going on they’ll find a nice spot for a decent cinema of at the very least ten screens? That would be nice.:D
Tuborg wrote:Id imagine sometime around the mid 50s as the street is basically still intact.Cheers mate. Things sure have changed down that part of town, huh? Patrick Street almost looks unrecognisable in recent times… Are there any plans for the Arthurs Quay shopping centre once the Opera Centre starts groundbreaking? Maybe re-cladding the building might be a good idea?
I agree! I, too, also think if Marks & Spencer were to locate outside of the city centre it would be a big blow for sure. Limerick City centre badly needs some of the big names such as Marks & Spencer to operate in the heart of the city and not out in the burbs. The city needs quality department and retail stores at its core! If they want an exciting and vibrant city centre then they have to make this happen!
As for that Dunnes Stores on Sarsfield street… it just beggars belief that they can get away with something like that!!!:mad: 😡 😡 Unfuckingbelievable!!!:mad: 😡 😡 That has to be one of the ugliest buildings I have ever seen in my entire life!!!:( 🙁 🙁
@Tuborg wrote:
There was a spectacular amount of dereliction in Limerick around the mid 60s, nowhere more so than the Aurthurs Quay area, thankfully that era seems like a million years ago now!:)
2. Patrick Street, long before Aurthurs Quay SC.
Any idea of what year this picture of Patrick Street was taken Tuborg? Real nice pic though.:)
@PoxyShamrock wrote:
I don’t want the pedestrianisation of O’Connell Street to go ahead. Just look at it this way, you’re walking up Cruises Street in the middle of Autumn at 8 o’clock, how many people do you meet? Less than five would be my answer. This pedestrianisation will turn the CBD into a ghost town.
I fully agree with what Demolition man is saying Patrick Street right now is absolutely gorgeous. It is the city’s main street and has recently (2005) got a makeover but it still allows traffic through the city centre.
Tbh I would prefer something along the lines of O’Connell Street in Dublin than to Patrick Street as the traffic situation in Cork is quite confusing and dangerous when it comes to Cars coming from the side streets leading onto Patrick Street.I think a masterplan similar to that of O’Connell Street in Dublin would enhance the city beautifully.
I couldn’t agree more! You’re absolutely right PoxyShamrock! It’s nice to see that someone in Limerick actually has a brain in their head! The pedestrianisation of O’Connell Street has got bad news written all over it! You’ve got a bunch of clowns running Limerick City! This is O’Connell Street for God’s sake! Its all great pedestrianising Thomas Street, Bedford Row and wherever else, but this is not for O’Connell Street! This is a stupid and idiotic idea! What the hell will they come up with next? It feels like they are dissecting the street. I didn’t/don’t even agree with the one-way traffic system they’ve got there. It just feels wrong! O’Connell Street is Limerick City’s main avenue and it goes without saying that it should and is supposed to be grand and buzz with excitement and life 24/7! It’s a street that’s supposed to stand out from all the rest! I think all the streets that are being pedestrianised deserve 100% commitment, but I do believe that O’Connell Street deserves 101%! Why? Because this is O’Connell Street! It has to stand out! Does anyone else think this? I just happen to believe that O’Connell Street should get extra special treatment. It badly needs a complete facelift from top to bottom! It needs to be made grand again. But, it also needs to remain open to all! This is no side street, or back street, this is O’Connell Street and it truly deserves better than this.
@CologneMike wrote:
Orbital Route 🙂
The proposed Orbital Route around the city centre will create a mainly one-way two lane clockwise traffic system that will be divided into three sections: Northern, Central and Southern.
The Northern Section travels along: Arthurs Quay, Charlotte’s Quay, Clare Street, Saint Lelia Street, New Road and Cathedral Place.
And the Central Section travels along: Sarsfield Street, William Street, Upper William Street, Sexton Street, Roches Street, Shannon Street and Henry Street.
The Southern Section travels along Parnell Street, Mallow Street and Henry Street.
Interesting stuff that CologneMike! Tell me, is there any plans to put a footbridge between 0’Callaghan’s Strand and Harveys Quay? I think I heard something about that? Harveys Quay is directly behind Dunnes Stores on Henry Street, right? Or is that further up? Anyway, I think a footbridge across this section of the Shannon would be a really nice idea. Especially once the “luxury apartments” behind the Hilton are completed. It would also be so nice if Sarsfield Bridge was given a good clean! I was told that there is a lot of grass and all sorts growing on both sides of the bridge. Is this true? That’s a real pity. I’m a big fan of Sarsfield Bridge to be honest, it’s a beautuful bridge and deserves much better attention than this! It’s one of Limerick City’s best features for sure! I don’t think enough people in Limerick stand back and appreciate how wonderful this bridge really is. I’d love to see better lighting on the bridge and some flower baskets, etc etc. I’d really love to see lighting under the bridge, it would look so beautiful at night on the water.
Just wondering CologneMike, do you have any information on the Riverpoint phase two apartment building? Such as a completion date, how many rooms, price range, etc etc. I have several friends here in Paris who are very keen to buy second and third homes in Ireland so obviously I recommended Limerick City! 😀 Any info will be well appreciated. Cheers 🙂
@jimg wrote:
Har har.
Just to clear things up, the reason I found your earlier message hilarious is not because I have something against high rise or ambition in the country (the opposite in fact) but because I thought it was deliberately written to sound like a script for Little Britain or something like that – a Vickey Pollard monologue, maybe? I didn’t realise you were serious! 😮 Seriously my friend, you come across like a hyperactive 15 year old on speed the way you express yourself.
Now, now now son, don’t go throwing your rattle out of your pram again, OK? If you read what I said properly then you will clearly see that I was not talking about you personally. It was more a symbolic gesture to all those small little narrow-minded twats there in Limerick who seem to have a problem with real architecture and real quality in the art of construction. It was a finger up to all those arseholes who knock something that can be truly great and who seem to have no problem whatsoever with cheapass, dull and boring rubbish that probably cost a fiver to put up! Know what I mean bud? No? I didn’t think so. I’ll bet you know just about as much about real architecture or real construction as I do about what time you rolled out of bed today. A hyperactive 15-year-old on speed, eh? Hummmm…that sure brings me back…]much more addicted[/B] to building great/beautiful buildings, art, cutting edge design and achieving the best work that I can. Runs in the family. Its really is very fulfilling actually, you should give it a try sometime son, instead of standing around talking bollocks all your life!! Next time, don’t forget to put your glasses on and double check when you’re reading something, OK? Life will be soooo much easier for you that way. Save a lot of bother, ya know? Hummmm….I think I’ll go and express myself in Limerick City one fine day soon….
Look very carefully at what you’re reading bud.
@justnotbothered wrote:
Jack, it’s not that I lack ambition, it’s just I’d rather enjoy parks and riverwalks than highrise buildings. Now, if you want to build off the river and in an place in need of redevelopment, say, the Island field or John Street then I appluad your vision. Why pick there to build, why pick a protected wetlands when there is plenty of places which actually need re-development?
Hey justnotbothered! Listen, I’m not having a go at you personally, OK? That’s not what I’m about. I’m sure you don’t lack ambition, or wharever, I’m talking about specific people in Limerick who just screw everything up and don’t seem to give a damn about the consequences of their never-ending bullshit, you know? I get extremely frustrated and annoyed to see some of these so-called “landmark developments” going up in Limerick City! That’s a joke if I ever heard one. Haven’t you noticed that everything is a landmark development? They could build a fucking car part and it would still be a landmark development! What’s that all about? The funny thing is, the project I was/am talking about is what you’d call a landmark development. Funny, huh? And not just in Limerick either. Remember, the tallest building in western Europe is in Frankfurt, Germany and that comes in at 56 or 57 storeys I believe. The main tower, 63-storey tower proposed by my uncle and his associates tops that by 6 storeys at the very least. Not bad, huh? But that’s not why they designed this building though. This building/s was designed to put Limerick City into the big league, believe it or not.
I do understand that you would rather enjoy parks and stuff like that, I really do. To be truthful, I know very little about those wetlands, so I would appreciate any information about this site. Thanks mate. But as I’ve said, it isn’t me who made up these drawings that, I just thought that it seems like a great location for such a big development. But if those wetlands are protected then that’s another matter entirely. I’m more than sure that somehow with the right plan and with enough attention to detail then this project could be incorporated into that area without causing any real damage. These are serious people with serious connections and with serious money to spend. There are so many other issues to deal with with a development of this size, I know, but I believe it can be done. You know what, could you suggest any other sites/locations where something of this size could possibly go close to the city? It’s been a long time since I’ve even set foot in Ireland let alone Limerick, so any info will be well appreciated.
I saw pictures of the Hilton (yet another landmark:rolleyes: ) recently and yes, it fucking stinks!!! Big time!!! You could look all over Limerick and you probably won’t find a better location for a hotel or apartment building…and what have they put up there? hummmm….a concrete box with windows!!! WOW!!! I’m blown away by the ground-breaking design and the quality of the workmanship on display here. Think it will win any awards? Christ almighty, my five-year-old daughter could design better than that with her fucking crayons!!! 😡 😡 😡
@CologneMike wrote:
High Jack!
Don’t get me going about the 1000 and 1 idiosyncrasies of our native city. Just accept Limerick as it is with it’s warts ‘n’ all! And Jack you will never develop blood pressure before you turn fifty! If you want to talk psychology, then “Bock The Robber†is your man! He is well versed in Jung (for Architectural dreams) and Freud (for Phallic Skyscrapers).
Jack ]3 developers[/B] operating in Dubai. Well there was a French man, a German and a Dutch man charged in a Dubai court for drinking alcohol. Each were to receive 50 lashes for their crimes. The Judge was a lenient type of guy and said to the French man I will grant you one request before you get flogged. Thanks said the French man and he tied a mattress onto his back and headed off for his whipping. It was the Germans turn and again the judge granted him one request who in turn thanked the judge, tied a mattress onto his back and went for his punishment. When the judge was approached by the Dutch man, he said to him that he had a soft spot for Holland and granted him two requests. The Dutch man with a twinkle in his eye replied, then I would like 200 lashes please and tie the German onto my back beforehand! 😀
To be honest Jack most people in Limerick have blown minds these days and the city is tough enough to look after itself, you don’t have to pity it.
But seriously it would be great if you would sketch from memory the plans you saw last year and post them here. There is nothing around to be seen except talk of some Iconic brain storming event took place a few months back.
High yourself there CologneMike! What’s happenin’ over your way? You know, if I were to post these plans here for you then I just might have to immigrate to Alaska!!! I’m goddamn serious here man!!! Why? Well. simply, this is not my plan/project/development. This belongs to my uncle and his associates, as I’ve mentioned already. I’m in no position to post his plans for possible future developments. I can’t just do that, know what I mean? I have a loyalty to my uncle, and my family first and foremost. To be completely honest, I would love to post these plans here for you, but as I’ve said, they don’t belong to me. Sorry mate. And I sincerely mean that too.
My uncle has already told me, if this project gets the green light then, and only then will he allow his plans to be seen by anyone. But so many projects never materialize. This is the world of property development my friend. There are no guarantees. But I, like my uncle, believe anything is possible. 😉
@jimg wrote:
I actually thought you were joking with your first message and thought it was hillarious.
Of course you thought it was hilarious jimg, developments like this don’t happen in Limerick, or anywhere else in Ireland for that matter. But I’ll bet anything on the fact that if this project does get the green light then you’ll be the first one running over the Shannon bridge to have a good look, right? Of course, I’ll be standing at the opposite side of the bridge with a big fucking sign in my hands: NO FUCKING WANKERS ALLOWED!!! And how funny will that be, eh? 😀 😀 😀 Now you know who we’re talkin’ about here, right dude? 😀 😀 😀
malec wrote:Looks like your uncle has been in dubai a tad too long ]I’m beginning to think the same thing myself bud 😀
@Tuborg wrote:
Hmmmmmm, this wasnt a dream by any chance, was it?
That’s the great irony isn’t it, it is you and many others there in Limerick who are dreaming of such a development. We’re talkin’ about psychology here in my opinion. There is a certain little mind set there in Limerick that is without any doubt holding this city back from reaching it’s true potential. They probably don’t even see it…???? They like living in a matchbox town! Or should I say fucking red brick city? This is a major problem for sure. What the hell is it with the red bricks anyway? Why shouldn’t a development like this come to Limerick? Why have you, and others got a problem with this? Why are you all afraid of real tall buildings anyway? This is a problem all over Ireland, not just Limerick! Just crazy!:confused: Do you think they will fall over on your head or something? It would be no harm if they did come to think of it. It might knock some fucking sense into some people there in Limerick!!! Maybe my uncle has spent a little too long there in the “desert” but at least he has the ambition and the courage to look to the FUTURE!!! This is the future!!! It’s not like they were going to put it in the middle of O’ Connell St. That would be stupid!!! It would (as I’ve already said) need a lot of open ground!! Not in the city, but close enough to be apart of it!! Certain people in Limerick badly need to open their small little minds before Limerick turns into a complete mess!!! I suppose the cheapass gargage they’re currently putting up is just fine, huh? Well that’s just fucking typical!!! You can’t even get a train to the fucking airport from Limerick City for christ sakes, nevermind getting around to putting up glass towers, that are too good for them anyway!!! People with small narrow minds don’t deserve such developments in my opinion!!! I actually feel sorry for Limerick City to be honest….:(
Hmm, invest in Dubai or Limerick, plausable story alright. 63 stories! Couldn’t you have picked a more believable figure?[/QUOTE]
I didn’t say it was invest in Limerick or Dubai, I said that this was/is a project that was aimed specifically at Limerick City for what I’d call personal reasons. My uncle’s I mean. He’s already there! He was born in Limerick City but hasn’t lived there for decades, so I guess, from what he has said to me, he’d dearly love to give something back to the city of his birth. As I myself would also like to do someday. The thing is, this has absolutely nothing to do with me. This is only one of many projects my uncle is working on at any given time. I’m just talking about it that’s all. My uncle has been investing in Dubai for many years now, long before the BOOM!!! Long before the forest of skyscrapers and cranes appeared in the desert. I guess he’s just open minded, and a true visionary, totally unlike many people there in Limerick.
@CologneMike wrote:
RIVERDEEP DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED
28 MALLOW STREET
LIMERICKEngineer Ned Sheedy, who is fronting the Riverdeep consortium
Councillor Jim Long, who was approached by the developers for advice
Well it’s over 14 months ago, it seems nothing has yet materialized. Can you post anything yourself about this planned development?
Well, I have to say guys, reading your posts has reminded me of a project I was kinda involved with about twelve months ago. I was working in Dubai with my uncle on several projects when he showed me these drawings of this HUGE development that he and some of his colleagues and associates were discussing putting together in Limerick City. It was obviously very serious at the time because as I remember they had lots of drawings made up and my uncle’s associates from France, Germany and Holland were very frequent visitors to our home (in Dubai) to discuss the fine details of this project. They appeared to me to be very excited about moving things along and they had talked in great lenghts about various locations in Limerick City that would be suitable for a development of this size. Here you had a french, german and dutch consortium looking for an area big enough to land a 747! I had a good look at these drawings for about twenty to twenty-five minutes and I must say I was extremely impressed. And it takes a lot to impress me folks let me tell ya! Basically, to get to the point, they spoke about those same wetlands you guys mentioned and that general area for their project. I can clearly remember that the drawings showed a 63-storey tower, a 43-storey tower and a 23-storey tower in a perfect triangle. In between these glass towers was a huge plaza with a huge revolving globe of the world in bronze. There were several water fountains and monuments also. I must say that those buildings did look so beautiful. There were also plans drawn up for a fifty thousand-seater concert/events arena as well within walking distance of the towers. I vividly remember that they refered to this project as “a city within a city”. I haven’t heard anything for ages about this from my uncle as we’re both very busy on other projects, but I will definitely have a word with him soon when he returns here to Paris sometime in July.
Personally, I think if this project ever gets the green light and the ground is literally cleared and prepared for it it would put Limerick City waaaaaay ahead of everything and anything in Ireland! It looks FUCKING AWESOME!!!!! Massive!!!!!! Truly world class!!!!!
Anyone got any decent pics of how things are developing on Bedford Row? From both ends of course!:) How is the Hilton shaping up? I certainly hope it looks a darn sight brighter by the time the doors open for business! Anyone else think it looks quite drab? Great location though! Just a pity it has to face that piece of crap on the opposite bank!:mad: I’m very annoyed:( to hear that Dunnes Stores have refurbished the interior of that eye sore on Sarsfield Street! I mean, what a waste of such a prime site! Great things could be done here… I’d personally love to see a highrise building go up there! Something on the scale of the Riverpoint complex! It would look awesome! It would really fill in that whole area big time! The location is just perfect for it! I really don’t know what Dunnes are thinking here, especially with their new store just over the road!? It’s a sad sight…:(and a HUGE waste of what really is one of the best locations in the city centre!
Well, well well. So, now they can’t get enough hotels in Limerick, eh? They’re building them left, right and centre! Now ain’t it too bad some brainless twat demolished Cruises Hotel!? Literally ripping open the entire bottom half of O’Connell Street! It stands there for almost two hundred years and then someone comes along with a wrecking ball and history goes right out the effin window! Genius!:rolleyes:Pure genius! So much for heritage… I stayed in Cruises hotel several times over the years and always enjoyed it there so I couldn’t believe it when they tore it down! I’m all for progress, but NOT for wanton vandalism! For me personally, losing Cruising Hotel just destroyed this part of O’Connell Street! I’m in the property developement/preservation business myself so I would have simply cut an archway through the hotel retaining the vast majority (90%-95%) of the existing building! And still had the new street! I don’t know if this was ever considered in the original plan? Should have been! To have had another hotel on O’Connell Street besides the George would have been just wonderful! Such a pity.:(
@CologneMike wrote:
Picture courtesy of rhurja taken 02.01.2007
We must be the envy of the whole country for already having an iconic structure:rolleyes: (mini Eiffel Tower) in the middle of the city centre! (Just 200 Metres from O’Connell St.) Seriously though, I could not imagine such an out-of-proportion communication pylon been allowed up in other cities such as Galway, Cork, Dublin etc? I wonder what would Paris Jack make of it? I see the lane “Roches Row†will only get a make over in the last phase of the remodelling of the city centre streets.
https://archiseek.com/content/showpost.php?p=60962&postcount=982
I know exactly what I’d love to do with that effin pylon!:mad::o I’d get great pleasure wrapping every last inch of it around some dumbass necks in Limerick City let me tell ya! Of all the stupid things I’ve ever seen on my travels, that is right up there! A blatant and utter lack of respect for Limerick City and her people! Absolutely, you’d never see something like that in Cork or Dublin! You could only ever get away with something this outrageous and unbelievable in Limerick! Most people probably pass this incredibly beautiful structure:rolleyes:on a daily basis without ever realizing what they’re missing, huh? Now ain’t you the lucky ones to have such an “iconic structure” in the very heart of your dear city!? I’m sooooo jealous! Surely to God there is some industrial estate on the rim of the city where this monstrosity could and should have been erected? Right? It’s unforgivable that someone (some half-wit of course) came up with the idea to stick this piece of crap literally a stone’s throw from Limerick City’s main avenue! Truly unbelievable!!! It’s a goddamn disgrace that’s what it is!!! Nice holiday snap for the tourists, eh? I’d like to take a flame thrower to the fucking thing!!! AARRRGHHH!!!:mad:
