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i still don’t get the arguement, reopening the phoenix park tunnel links heuston, and the new heuston development to connolly by a shuttle train and the through running of the kildare train, this provides the sort of capacity needed, a branch off the luas connects heuston to thomas street/digital hub and stephens green, all much cheaper than the interconnector and leaving money for other projects: a luas for crumlin, extend the dart along the maynooth line, a luas for the airport and a dart extension to the airport and a heavy rail connection to the airport, heavy rail to navan: lets finish the three networks we have first, then think about metro, I amn’t advocating spending less, just spending it more effectivelly.
diaspora, persumably you’d run the kildare train through to connolly, so no need to change at heuston, it connects heuston to connolly.
i don’t see how the interconnector would do much better, it would have two stops along thomas street and a stop at tara. a much cheaper way t serve thomas street would be a branch off the luas line.
well the heuston problem can be solved by reopening the phoenix park tunnel and running trains through to connolly.
i am sure they will open it now, they have won at this point; a high quality medium sized stadium in Dublin is the best they could of hoped for.
they big question is weather they will open up the provinsional stadia too, lots of these are in bad repair.
fin, don’t be silly.
as for restoring the esb, there would be no point in recreating the facade if the esb building stood in isolation, but, it is part of a fine terrace and recreating the facade would restore the terrace. here is the analogy, there is no point in building a reproduction table, but, if you have an antique table with a missing leg, it is perfectly sensible to make a repro leg.
as for sam stephenson, the cb is great and the dublin ias building is kind of cool and, quite well layed out for its purpose, but sadly it was built so so cheaply, also it isn’t big enough for the whole ias, on the school of theoretical physics is there with celtic studies next door and cosmic physics on merrion sq so i guess they will move eventually and then i don’t know what will happen to it. that mews with the conversation pit is fantastic, i had some important work visitors we put up there once and it was such fun talking to them there, you felt like you were in the sixties.
i am worried about the millenium wing, the new coin collection box, though nice of itself, really shouldn’t be there. something purpose designed, like the comment box, is clearly called for.
phil, i couldn’t see from the pictures where the libskind provided open public space, have you seen the models? how does public space work out for the libskind design.
they seemed to stop completely for a long time, either they ran out of money or they found some unexpected challenge, for eg with water.
Brian, i don’t know so much about the building, but one important thing is that Sean Scully, the Irish born minimal expressionist has donated eight paintings to Dublin, which is great, but it presented a challenge in that they need a big room to display them, bigger than could be provided by the IMMA, stack a was suggest for a while, but now, the new Hugh Lane extension will have a room dedicated to Sean Scully and these painting will be on permanent display.
the hugh lane collection is a mess in the sense that it doesn’t attempt to be encyclopedic, they just end up with these great things, the hugh lane impressionist paintings, the francis bacon studio and now the scullys
what are you on about niall, when i said dublin area i meant accessible from dublin but, and this is my point, not in dublin. there is a big horse racing community here in dublin and certainly enough to support a metropolitain racetrack, leopardstown is a nice racecourse, but it is at the very edge of city and hard to get to, certainly you wouldn’t go there from the city centre for an evening meet, this might improve if the luas is extended. anyway, horse racing as a spectator sport is not a country persuit and, anyway, in ireland, these days, a division between country people and city people is artificial.
that’s great news, it includes a sean scully room too! isn’t the hugh lane collection great, such a mess.
well it’s crazy that a country as keen on horseracing as this one doesn’t have a proper metropolitian racecourse.
btw apologise to fairyhouse, if punchestown is included in the dublin area, then so should fairyhouse.
hey, if we are having sports facilities out at abbotstown do you think we can have a new race course to replace the much missed phoenix park race course. leopardstown and punchestown are much too far away.
i guess from the little i’ve seen i am attracted to the som and the hennigan-peng because they are the most permiable, all the buildings include public access and public use, but only these two have outdoor open access along the pier.
