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Participantphil, yes, its the shell on the peninsula opposate the boat club. i think it was burned down in the insurrectionary period, and then reroofed and burned again making the macintosh man, in which i appear as an extra, well i am baby and i appear briefly in the background. when i was young the family used to live some of the attached houses, there where three sisters and a brother, or husband, i can’t really remember. the sisters were always called the three white mice and were the classic molly keane anglo-irish, wearing tea cozies on their heads and serving cooking sherry out off cut glass decanters. i think the residue of the family wealth was squandered on the horses; something i have a certain symphthy with. Anyway, the house is shell and i am really pleased anyone would take it on.
As for Diasporas point, i think the disgrace here is Butlers, which is in Renville park and hence in state ownership in some way, the park is well used to the point of being crowded and yet the adjacent golf course development was allowed to build holiday houses along the perimeter of the wood, so close it ruins the illusion of being in the wilds, they should have been foced to plant a buffer of trees or even ceed land to the park. The house is quite a small one, espessially compared to Ardfry, but, hansome with it and interesting, it has a dove cote and a well and so one; as it is, it has been ringed with a high wire fence and is being allowed to fall down, it has deterioted considerably in the time since the park was opened. It was also burned down by the way, but, in this case in the 70s during all the arguements about the land commision.
As a further insult there is a ring fort in one of the fields on the other side of the park from Renville bay and someone was allowed to build a typical ugly big house say 20 metres from it. Its sickening, again, the land should have been bought by the state and added to the park with some sort of interpretative material displayed for the ring fort.
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Participanti couldn’t realy make sense of the ST article, what Graham Hickey says makes much more sense, in particular, the ST diagram implied SG east would be one way the other way, but then, how would you get from Nassau Street to Cuffe St?
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Participantso, traffic coming north on harcourt street will have to turn right across the luas track? or will harcourt street become public transport and access only, running along SG west? What about access to the RCSI multistorey via glover street?
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Participantyou’d be surprised then morlan, outdoor seating is the thing for pubs since the smoking ban
April 26, 2004 at 2:58 pm in reply to: An Bord Pleanála blocks Mansfiled’s convention centre #742441notjim
Participantthe best design for an award trophy for “worst design of the year” would be one modelled on the mansfield conference centre.
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Participantchina town will develop to the immeadiate west of capel steet is my guess, it has a supply of cheap retail space and is near to the big chinese population centre of smithfield. cows lane isn’t really suitable.
new millenium on south king street has the best dim sum btw
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ParticipantThere is something about the design on the odonnell+toumey website, hard to see from this
the scale of demolishion on pease street, the
side facing the rugby pitch is very nice, again, i am sure the positive aspects of this plan could be reconcilled with retention of 200/201 and 184-188.notjim
Participantso, to clarify, from what i understand, the public space will be immeadiately behind where 200 and 201 are now with a gateway stepped back from the steet. the buildings are listed. i would write to john o’hagan, the bursar.
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Participantso 200 (N&B) and 201 (the bike factory) demolished, 206 demolished, 184-187 (edwarding shopfronts) demolished, 188-193 refurbished, the two white student accomadation blocks by the rugby pitched demolished, the civil engineering building including the nice low victorian building and the awful simon perry building, demolished.
i understand only too well the need to provide modern lab space etc and the desire on the part of the dcc to rejunvinate pearse street, but this is crazy, surely a good architect could find a way to reconcil these needs with retention of these unusual and well loved buildings.
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Participantok, so i realise now that the site i linked above is only accessible from tcd itself, but i’ll relay some of the details when i get to work tomorrow.
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Participantsports complex is going ahead soon, as is the crann building, which is a nanoscience center, martin naughton from glen dimplex just gave 5m EUR for the latter, which helps.
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Participantthe student union newpaper _the university record_, and confirmed here
http://www.tcd.ie/Buildings/Presentation/SFC041203/index.html
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Participantthanks for this graham, its a terraced villa style house, one story at the front, two at the back with a foolishly small number of foolishly large rooms and 20% of the floor area given over to the hall. i really like it but i can’t work out why houses where built like this, what was the market? its in the east wall by the way.
so for the drift off topic.
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Participantso i have a 1860 victorian house, albiet a very crappy one, with 6 over 6 windows with horns.
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Participantmuch improved by wood cladding, but it really have to be so visible?
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Participantassuming it is symphathetic to the setting the the numbers aren’t such as to cause a traffic problem, this seems like an ok place for housing, the area is already well served by parks.
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Participantok ok, i give in.
as for the airport, as you say, ir have got their act together, so lets follow there plan and connect it to the dart which leaves the problem of dcu and ballymun which seems a clear case for a luas line and, if it has gone that far, lets carry on to the airport, leaving the airport connected to the city in two different ways.
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Participanti’m dyslexic, what can you do?
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Participantdo we really need to be discussing this, the property in harcourt street is now worth more so there are higher rents, the rent increase is proportionate to but not equal to the estimate extra retail income, that’s how rent work. in this way, the luas has created value, it has given value to the property owners because there property is worth more, and it has increased the potential gross income of store owners, although their rents have increased. some types of retail suit a low rent environment; discount stores, bathroom shops, china storerooms, etc, people with businesses like this will sell there leases, for a profit, since the leases are now worth more, and move to a low rent area.
either way, its just luck, sometimes the breaks go your way, sometimes they don’t. if we start compensating in situations like this, we’re screwed, nothing will get build.
the luas took three years to build begining to end, tallaght will be much closer to town when it running, so will sandyford, it will be easier to get to smithfield. its done now, lets stop this giving out. let build another one to the airport connecting dcu and ballymun. you can’t give out about the political delays to luas and at the same time repeat all the sorts of arguements that lead to those delays.
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Participantone business? there must be more than that, one business is less than you’d expect through natural turnover! i can think of another: the china showrooms, but even then, you’d wonder if that was because the site is worth too much now for that sort of useage and the character of the street is changing.
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