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Participantso the really irratating thing about the five lamps devlopment is that the only good feature, the curve along the front, isn’t carried by the penthouse.
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Participanthow funny! i thought harp came all the way over to amiens street and gave them all sort of false credit. so is the point that this is the council acting directly and they have more sense of organic improvement than any of these pumped up development authorities.
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ParticipantHARP: But there are also those new dance studios behind talbot street, Pallas Heights and the Firehouse Art Studios on like Sean McDermott street.
I am looking forward to Stack A opening, but I do think it is a waste; there are a million buildings in Dublin suitable for a Botique Hotels, ironically this is the new suggestion for that school were they were going to put the Abbey. Many of the cultural attractions are a crock because noone really cares, but at least two of the suggestions for the Stack House had real passion behind them: a gallery suitable for large works and an encylopedic display of irish art perhaps from the opw collections and an interactive science museum, the latter something the town needs and a sure winner if done right. I also think that putting the abbey on the dock might be nice, but the dock is great as it is and the abbey could have a greater transformative potential if put somewhere else.
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ParticipantThomond Park I was surprised you include Harp in that list; I thought they were better than the others.
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ParticipantThis is a scandal, a number of good visitor attraction suggestions were made to the DDDA, Interactive science museums for example have a well-established ability to bring in huge crowds and with Dublin’s shortage of childrens activities, it would have done great. Instead, they were fixed on shopping and dazzled by the idea of Harvey Nicks, the cultural subsidy was wasted and then they couldn’t get tenants, presumably for the want of footfall, now they are going to have a hotel, like that’s exciting, and a few resteraunts and to get footfall up they are going to put the abbey on stilts, ruining one of the finest parts of the docklands areas. Fucking idiots.
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Participantnow the problem with Vancouver is the drugs and the awful ersatz gastown; the big plus is the pile of sulphur, the white whales and that nudist beach.
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Participantin an amusing side note and in a ddda’ish display of sensitivity to the sea, it seems they never checked the times of the tides before booking the tall ships for this weekend: noone was able to visit them either afternoon because they were too low.
the new section of campshire looks great though, a bit overdone and i am sorry they got rid of the big lumps of timber, but the rachel joyndt (sp) light are such a pleasure.
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Participantnot meaning to debate your actually point dowlingm but it always amazes me when toronto is quoted as a good example of urban anything; i have spent a bit of time there, wandering through the city centre surface carparks, along the underdeveloped downtown streets, stared at the lake across the road and urban wasteland driven along the 4 lane highways through 200 km of sprawl etc etc etc . . .
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Participanthey, why don’t they culvert the liffey in front of the customs house and build the abbey there, that way it would be in both the north and south side and gosh what a setting!
well it makes about as much sense as building on georges dock.
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ParticipantOn the other hand, if it is between the two corporate buildings to the west of the dock it would have a lovely setting; is this possible, I am no judge of scale or sure what’s underneath the surface there. Surely building on the dock would be too perverse even for the ddda and again, why this obsession with the abbey a) and fancy shopping for the stackhouse b).
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Participantisn’t this stupid, six and seven story buildings on sites that could take 10 or 11 and then they fill in one of the most attractive, interesting and dockish parts of the docklands. they should have put a science museum in the stack house when they had a chance and they would have no need of a landmark attraction what would fill in a significant and unusual open space.
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ParticipantSure and I thought that was wierd too, but having the old dock there, with water in, albeit shallow water, is a real feature: a grand space. Filling it would take lots of the character from the area.
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ParticipantI hope they aren’t really going to fill the dock, that would be stupid. The big gravel space might be it, I have been suprised in the past by how big that is.
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ParticipantToday’s Times was also wierdly vague – near where the Speigel tent is, landmark building, large enough footprint etc, but no actual site.
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ParticipantSo the rte has the Abbey moving to Georges Dock:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/0616/abbey.html
where? i don’t get it, do they mean the stack house?
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ParticipantThere is like 10 Eur a month, or maybe 12.70 to pay for the tea and coffee: i don’t think there was any controversy. the bar looks exactly like the picture of the original above, only its the other way around.
sorry roskav, i didn’t mean to sound too sinister or, at least, only mock sinister, i was refering to about a year ago when i was shopped for posting a (your?) picture of the proposed nassau street development on this site and had my hands and face slapped by college.
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Participantyou don’t have friends in TCD roskav?
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Participantdavy byrnes?
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Participantso i finally saw the o’casey bridge actually closing yesterday and yes, the ends aren’t quite square across, there is a slight slant relative to a square end to allow them to fit together without any messing.
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ParticipantI was really suprised by the brick layer because the construction method was cool, instead of using removable molds for the poured concrete they lifted in molds with pasterboard attached and rods already inside and these weren’t removed after the concrete was poured. It seemed so clever, the insulation and so on could have already been there and the whole building process would have been simplified and deskilled, this advantage is thrown away by having a brick layer.
Can anyone explain why it is called Lighthouse?
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