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- February 16, 2006 at 8:49 pm in reply to: Steward’s House, Farmleigh to be official Taoiseach’s residence #764731
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ParticipantI bought a postcard of the palace of the people, pic above, in bucharest when i visited there about ten years ago and thought i was going to be lynched, an angry crowd gathered to shout at me: its bad taste fto buy a postcard of a symbol of tyranny. The funny thing is that the vendor joined in at shouting at me. The avenue leading up to the palace was quite striking in an ozimandias sort of way, a overblown tyrant-chic imitation of beaux art done in now crumbling concrete, massive ornate buildings clearly being used as tenements.
Would it be possible to have an apartment within farmleigh itself, I don’t know how its laid out. Wouldn’t the proposed location be needlessly difficult to look after from a security point of view?
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ParticipantCRANN in some complicated way it stands for Centre for Understanding NanoTechnology, it includes a vibration free nanosurface lab, which is why it is located near the dart line. Also in the building will be a sports centre, a science gallery, which will be a drop in display centre for science outreach, a general purpose auditorium and, I think, a number of apartments for visitors to crann. There is a picture at
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ParticipantHow dare they consider contradicting the conclusion of an archeire poll
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Participantso here is the right location: from the new science museum west of heuston, likely to become a major attraction for families, to phoenix park, already a major attraction for families, with a great view down the liffey on the way.
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Participantand the passangers will be able to look down and see the _spirit of the docklands_ also “reimagining the river in a creative and exciting way”
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Participantwas anyone at this last night, i couldn’t go; the times article implied popular support for common sense. maybe the board is being very clever and this is just a shake down, if they aren’t being very clever then they are being really dumb: moving is a stupid idea.
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Participantso it says in the original article that the ddda found they had more space than expected for this square, hence the redesign. how come?
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ParticipantThey were taking the metal supports off as I came into town just now, sunday.
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Participantctesiphon – as mentioned above, there seems to be a same of the red paving down on the corner by pearse street along with a sample of the red pole – the redness of the red pole is very impressive, i didn’t know you could easily get such red red, the paving is less impressive.
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ParticipantMorlan as I understand it the glass building to the left of the picture is joined on its other side to the apartment block which fronts both the gcd and pearse st. ie, this is along the west side of gcd with the hotel on the north of the square. the experimental red pole and sample red paving are located on the nw of that bridge they are going to replace.
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ParticipantIts funny they are obviously testing out the slanted red poles because they put one up at the corner by the main road; one on its own slanted, I thought it had been hit by a car or something and was trying to work out how, but it makes sense now and the redness of it is very impressive.
The picture looks nice if a little busy, but, as is now the norm, they have taken a bit of a dock; for a docklands authority they really can’t stand open areas of water.
All the people in the picture; what are they doing do you think, its evening so maybe they are on the way to a concert but I hope they didn’t arrive early expecting to eat; the big problem with this as a public space is the single use edge buildings, a hotel on one side, the Leibskind building on another, I guess they’ll both have eateries and bars and an office block on the third. The Lincoln Centre is a bit like this, a lovely public space surrounded by in my view really beautiful auditoria and then not so much else so you tend to go, meet your date, see the opera and then back on the train north or south.
Notice the much more revealing picture of the Leibskind building; its a big blank box with a Leibskind motif in the form of the impressive atrium.
December 29, 2005 at 2:36 pm in reply to: Steward’s House, Farmleigh to be official Taoiseach’s residence #764716notjim
ParticipantI guess it makes sense to put this in the farmleigh complex, but I can’t help being sorry that the opw building isn’t being used; its so handsome and a new use needs to be found for it if the opw is moving to trim (?).
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Participantalpha, i amn’t sure this is an important point, in countries where you don’t own the land under your house, you still get compensation if tunnelling puts cracks in your walls and conversely, the bit of the underground you own that the tunnel goes through isn’t actually worth very much.
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Participanti have to say that picture in the times was awful, it remindes you that crappy skyscrapers kind of scattered can look really awful: in fact tall buildings are only really dramatic when you spend alot on them and you are short of space to put them. everyone forgets that manhattan isn’t manhattan because of the tall buildings, lots of us cities have them: the point is it has a ton of housing, lots of great seven story areas, a great park, some beautiful older buildings, great zoning and the really tall buildings are crowded into midtown and the financial district.
as for the port; as a dubliner, for now anyway, you have to be nervous about anything that narrows the employment base, but, yes, the current preeminence of dublin is stupid, maybe not the big bang the pds are selling for whatever reason, but there ought to be more development of other ports and, yes, a gradual scaling back of dublin port.
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ParticipantThey actually seem to be working on it this last month or so; its going to be offices and staff facilities for the ngi. to be fair, they never got a capital grant for any of this, so they have had to raise money themselves.
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Participanti have no real problem with the ifsc as a location; it isn’t that far from town and the newer parts, while not close to stunning, do at least manage quite an urban feel. i also imagine that it will look good in the basin, but i do feel it is vandalism, there is no end of brownfield and no end of undistinguished city center buildings where the theatre could have a real presence, why sacrifice the basin, its beautiful, its a genuine historic part of the dockland area and kind of special, a real loss.
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ParticipantThey obviously didn’t give full consideration to my proposal that they culvert the liffey opposate the customs house and build the abbey there; or, they locate it in the middle of town near all transport links by siting it on Stephen’s Green. In other words, isn’t this the stupidest thing?
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ParticipantSorry, to answer my own question, there is a picture in the previous hawkins house thread:
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ParticipantDoes anyone know where there is picture of the refurbishment plan proposed for Hawkin’s House a few years ago; the idea was partial reclad to break up the bulk a bit, something about the car and a funny floating roof thing on top.
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