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cubix: basically they have dug the big hole and have built two concrete cores, corresponding to each side of the cylinder, to about ten story height.
You know there comes a point when you have to accept a decision has been made: it is the only way a country can be run.
I wish we had more fabric-of-dublin/building-stock-of-ireland/conservation-versus-change/new-buildings-discussed articles in the times and fewer of these repetitive rants.
I vote to have Frank McDonald replaced by Graham H.
Will these new toilets be underground: I hope we don’t get those terrible kiosk things like they had on the quays in the old days?
This junction could be so grand if the trees and yes the toilet were removed.
@paul h wrote:
I’m a fairly liberal person with most issues,
but its preposterous to think that any group of people can set up and move in,
anywhere,on any piece of real estate
Especially a prized chunk of land like in docklands
Why should i have to work my ass off saving and working?
Maybe i should head to woodies or somethin pick up some ply wood and nails
and build my own little house in Stephens greenIf you and your family had been living on Stephens Green as long as anyone could remember and your house building plans were sympathetic to good planning and the local built environment, I would have no trouble with you building there and if you belonged to an abused and marginalized minority with a distinct, ignored and valuable culture, I would actively support you and your little house.
@Devin wrote:
I see the Members of the Travelling Community have finally been moved on from Britain Quay and concrete girders have been placed all about to stop them coming back.
I think it is a shocking failure on the part of the DDDA that they have made no attempt to develop culturally appropriate urban accommodation for travellers in this area. Although there is no existing model for traveller accommodation in a medium or high rise urban context, I do not accept that this means that it could not be acheived and, I feel, it was the responsibility of the DDDA to be at the vanguard in this regard.
@Rory W wrote:
The Royal Hibernian Way has deliberately been allowed to decline as the owners are hoping to convert the whole Lord Mayor’s Walk into a single large unit!
But as an aside, what will happen to the Hibernian Building at the bottom of Dawson Street when they move out to Hatch Street? I think Mr Wrecking ball may shortly be visiting!!!:)
From an article in today’s Post (23 Sept) about plans for INM to open a third level college, “independent College”:
The Dublin location is the Hibernian building on Dawson Street and planning permission for change of use is being sought at present. The Law Society exams course starts this November, and will be taught in the College of Physicians on Kildare Street.
@notjim wrote:
Proceeds from the sale of the site will go towards the cost of a new civic square surrounding the fruit and vegetable market, a community facility and an underground car park..
So this civic square: wasn’t the original plan for an outdoor market on the fish market site, which I thought was a fantastic idea, is that the same as a civic square or has the plan changed?
The yellow might be too strong, but the iron work looks fantastic, it is a fabulous job, bringing out the muscular elegance of the bridge structure.
From the post last Sunday:
Sunday Business Post 16 September
Bidder to be chosen to develop fish market site
16 September 2007 By Neil Callanan
The redevelopment of a former wholesale fish-market site in Dublin 7 has moved a step closer.Dublin City Council is expected to choose a preferred bidder to develop the fish market site by the end of the month.
The site is part of a planned €400 million rejuvenation of Dublin’s Markets area, which is between Henry Street and Smithfield in the north-west inner city. The Victorian fish market on the site has already been demolished.
The site is expected to be redeveloped as a commercial and residential complex, up to six storeys in height. Underground car parking will also be developed.
The council decided to demolish the fish market because it was underutilised and there was an opportunity to provide retail, restaurant, residential and cultural use on the site.
It will also provide an opportunity to build new office accommodation for the legal sector based around the Four Courts.
The new buildings will overlook the fruit and vegetable market, which is one of the most recognisable buildings in Dublin.
Six groups were originally invited to take part in the competitive process for the fish market site after a public notice last December seeking expressions of interest in the redevelopment.
Proceeds from the sale of the site will go towards the cost of a new civic square surrounding the fruit and vegetable market, a community facility and an underground car park.
The council wants to develop the square because it claims the distance between O’Connell Street and Smithfield, at 1.25 kilometres, is too far to create a natural connection between the two.
“It may sound like a pretty broad statement but i really think most dubs in general have very poor civic pride”
paul h: now that is one of the saddest things I have heard you say, somehow people in Dublin lack civic pride, but it has nothing to do with ugly buildings and ugly signage: you seem to imply it is somehow intrinsic or inherited?
I have no problem with the taxi drivers’ shrine, the problem is: what the fuck is the taxi rank doing on o’connell st?
@StephenC wrote:
did you say it to anyone! the only way to get some action is to tell someone other than the guy at the ticket desk
You mean writing it here doesn’t work?
I was just at the Ulster Museum exhibit at the NGI, very good, but I was struck again how completely they are failing to look after the unforgiving Millennium wing. It is a disaster, nearly every door needs rehanging, it is scuffed, dirty and damaged, safety has forced a number of sad interventions, the signage is poor and all the interesting nooks and alcoves have been cordoned off!
I like the back, it reminds me of that ballet place in the lincoln center in NYc, one of my favourite buildings. They are building it now, the big hole has certainly been dug.
@GrahamH wrote:
31/8/2007
Incidentally, on that day I encountered two very well-known journalists – who shall remain nameless – who approached the model after sitting through the video promo, full-on explanation and presentation, and laden with enough glossy literature to line the walls of the said centre, neither with so much as a bull’s clue as to where the place was, what it was to house, who designed it, or indeed even the chequered saga of the whole proposal. Indeed the NCC rep there didn’t seem to know very much either, and it ended up with myself and another chap explaining the scheme to them. Thought it summed up quite neatly the commitment to the built environment in the Irish media. The abiding memory of the day is: “oh – so this is the Liffey then?”*points*
Off topic but in a similar vein, they had the times journalist who wrote about the nesbitt take over of arnotts on morning ireland last week, he went on about the size and scope of the northern quarter development and Aine asked him, well where is this northern quarter located then: between henry street and parnell street, something like that, oh i amn’t reallty sure, he replied!
Sorry reading more of the thread, to answer the question above TCD owns the AIB building, they used to own 5 and 6 as well, the two to the north of the AIB, but sold them last year. It also owns most of the second and third story of that block going west, they don’t own the ground floors, they did some sort of swop.
Even beyond the rule that universities should never sell property and should never ever sell contiguous property, TCD was insane to sell 5 and 6 Forster place. Given they have the AIB building they could have done something special here.
UK’s Flint & Neill wins bid to plan Dublin bridge:
from tcm.ie, http://breaking.tcm.ie/business/mhcweycweyoj/
UK consultants have been hired to work on a new bridge in the shadow of the planned U2 Tower in Dublin’s Docklands.
The multi-million euro link between the Docklands and Ringsend will accommodate public transport only and will feature two bus lanes and two footpaths. A cycle lane and space for a possible future Luas extension are also proposed.
The Flint & Neill Partnership in London has won the 340,000 euro contract to draw up a preliminary design of the bridge.
The consulting engineers have already worked on bridges and viaducts in Britain, Sweden, Finland, China and Hong Kong.
They were also involved in the design of the roof of Terminal 5 at Heathrow Airport and a Baha’I Temple in Delhi, India.
Chongming Bridge in Shanghai, Sweden’s Malmo Swing Bridge and the Forth Road Bridge in Scotland are among the landmark structures they have worked on.
The RPA has posted detailed draft plans of the Metro North route:
Very interesting if you like that sort of thing.
