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why ravaging tommyt: it isn’t such a bad building, a good one i’d say and tcd, one of the towns great assets, does need space to expand.
Given that they are temporary I think they are fun: lively, self-consciously disposable and slightly wry: ugly perhaps, but animated and urban, more interesting than the rabbits last year.
I hope the one outside Eason’s doesn’t distract the bus drivers: where did she learn to walk like that?
I just hope tcd is involved in their alumnus’s redevelopment of this site: they are idiots if they aren’t.
@JoePublic wrote:
If those are supposed to be representations of what the stations will look like, then that’s exactly what I would expect.
Yes I imagine they are what the stations look like _to an engineer_, someone who sees the engineering layout which , I am sure, is all they have thought about to this point, I am with Rory W, the engineering points are probably worth discussing: isn’t it cool that the O’Connell bridge station stretches so far north, is it really a good idea not to have long elevators, the design is also worth discussing, but not, I would guess, based on these pictures.
And for what its worth, at least it doesn’t have shamrocks.
What was really annoying about the Academy, apart from the excessive bulk was, having made a nice job of the facade, they gave no attention at all to the other elevations, they did the pretend-anything-set-back-can-be-treated-as-invisible trick; this building seems better in this regard.
What do you think of it: I approve of it in principle because I work at TCD and like the area to gather education related institutions. The building looks impressive to me, but I haven’t the knack of judging from plans. It certainly makes the winter garden look like dross, which is what it is!
as pointed out on the p11 site this interesting ei document is now available, features pictures of the o’connell st metro station and other stuff too:
well were are getting into subtleties; my point was that what is important is the extra capacity across the river, not somehow, the joining of the east coast lines to the western bound lines, this is a detail of the putative solution. if someone was cunning enough to come up with a cheaper plan, it wouldn’t matter if it left the east coast line as a single line, provided it interchanged with the maynooth and kildare dart.
Peter: you are not falling into the trap of assuming the only possible DART journeys will be ones with no interchange are you?
You know the interconnector is not needed to serve the area between tcd and heuston, the lucan luas can do that: the only and important point is to allow the kildare, maynooth and malahide dart services to all have stops on the southside and to avoid having terminuses where there is no room for terminating trains. It is obviously a desirable project, but it is hard to shake the felling that there is a cheaper alternative to tunnelling the width of the city. The problem is I just can’t think of it.
I am sure the sindy misreported p11; they want the ppt in use now but the interconnector to go ahead asap. you would worry why they would be misquoted in this way.
Isn’t the point that the bottleneck is the loopline bridge, using the phoenix park tunnel doesn’t add extra capacity across the river: the assumption being that these new dart lines all need some stops south of the river. Without the interconnector, kildare, maynooth and malahide dart services will come in to connolly or spenser dock and only a half or so of these services will be able to connect to the southside, whereas with the interconnector, the maynooth dart will continue south along the current southern dart and the kildare line will travel south of the river before continuing along the current northern dart.
@ctesiphon wrote:
there would have been an ‘academic axis’ stretching from TCD to UCD via the NLI, NGI, NUI and other museums / institutions.
. . . and RCSI, RIAM, NCAD, the RIA and the RHA: moving UCD and not Oireachtas is the single biggest mistake made with this city,
As for the NGI: I have never seen evidence for this often repeated claim that there are singular treasures hidden in the vaults, what is there not on the walls that would be worth seeing, did you get the sense when the extension was opened we were seeing new wonderful things. Don’t get me wrong, I think the NGI has a fantastic collection, but I amn’t convinced that all the good stuff isn’t already hanging. The Natural History Museum is a different story, they clearly have a huge back collection.
BTW If you haven’t been in to the NGI to see the two pictures on long term loan from, it is said, Tipperary: The Portrait of Omai and a Modagliani: Reclining Nude, go, they are both amazing.
OPEN! I walked through it this evening, it is lovely inside, the iron work on the ceiling is gorgeous and the units are quite classy, very sharp. Only about a third let, say 10 units for Meadow and Byrne, two coffee shops and about six additional units let out of say 40. Quite a flow of people, they added a door in the river side facade so coming over the O’Casey bridge it is like the obvious way to go if you are heading for the ifsc.
