Niall
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Look at France, best of both worlds!! Roads built by and large by the private sector, railways by the state and they compete with each other!!
Totally agree with it!!! Just no vision in CIE and spineless politicians. I’d use it and so would the tourists. it needn’t be anything flash, just a good way of getting from a to b.
Somehow it’ll get shot down. I would like the people in the west to use the same determination they applied with Knock airport!!!
A Yes
B No
C Yes
D YesI too would hate the UK model introduced. I think we should have rail and bus in state hands, but better management and accountability is crucial.
I think CIE or whatever replaces it should be open to market forces and competition, if a better solution can be found than the fiasco that happened in the UK, I wouldn’t rule out privitisation.
Oh and I’d make the guy behind Platform 11 the Chairman of Irish Railways, at least he has vision and ideas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A metro is imperative. We have no available or cheap land overground, the only solution is to go under.
Dublin is the only EU capital other than tiny Luxembourg that has no metro system. In the applicant countries only the Baltic states are without one.
Greater Dublin will soon be 2 million souls and growing, so with a population like that how else do you get them from A to B in large numbers quickly??
Excellent website on all things metro at http://www.metropla.net.
On another point, shouldn’t it be line 2 of the DART for consistency and all further lines should Be Dart Line 3 etc….
DART is unique to Dublin, Metro is a bit alien.
I say scrap the RPA and the DTO, that’d save a couple of millions, what do they all do all day?
The money saved from this could be given to a private company to design, construct and run the metro for 30 years. Any cost overruns/delays would be the company’s fault.
The government would waive the Vat and pass enabling legislation. The state gets the metro back after the 30 year period
Problem solved!!
Over to the Spanairds/Japanese/Alabanians (whoever)!
I don’t think those involved should touch the bridge. You can fall into the Liffey anywhere along its length.
Hopefully, the novelty will wear off when the winter approaches and the little ruffins will find something else to do.. like litter and graffiti.
That reminds me, was it sprayed with anti-vandal paint? Also, once the spike is finalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly unveiled… the graffiti will be up within hours!
No, but I’ll guarantee you this being Ireland it’ll not be long before they are turned round the wrong way, defaced or run into by an artic!
Signposts in this country are a disgrace! I have never seen anything like it anywhere else.
Away with the fairies, what nonsense! The best one I ever heard was some nutter Unionist saying the ‘Protestant’ people of Ulster, were descended from the lost tribe of Israel!!!! I also remember white supremacists and pro-apartheid South Africans spouting the same drivel.
Ireland like Britain is a melting pot and is quite bastardised, no one has exclusive claim to the land, we just have to get on with each other and share the bloody place!!
Wicklow is an Anglisiation of Vikinlu, pronounced (veekilu) named after the Vikings (Viking Land) think Glendalough raids and the Norse settlement around Wicklow town. The Irish for Wicklow is Cill Mhantain
Wexford is also an Anglisation of a Norse/Danish word. The Irish is Loch Garman as is Waterford (vasser/Vater is Norse/Danish. Ford is also Danish, but not that spelling. The Irish is Port Lairge.
All were Viking settlements as was old Dublin.
If I can think of any more will post em!
try Gabriel Conway’s excellent site, bit hard to navigate, but the pix are very good!!!
Yes too many bodies responsible for transport/planning etc.. what do they all do? Just talk a lot and fight with each other.
Btw, Gabriel’s website is Excellent!!!!!!!!!
I don’t agree with all that twee nonsense and hanging baskets.. The important thing is to keep the filthy litter off the streets and shopkeeepers to clean outside their premises. The Council also HAVE a responsibility… the village I live in has not ONE litter bin!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, d d Dallas, why not Cork!
From above
“On a more gloomy note – what’s stopping IRFU from developing he landsdown site as high yield apartments, pocketing the cash, and moving out to a free stadium in abottstown at taxpayers expense?”– It would kill them to move from their cosy set-up in D4, and the drinking dens associated with it, much like RTE, who wouldn’t dream moving elsewhere and pocketing a fortune from selling their land at Montrose, clearing their debts and maybe making a half-decent drama or comedy and selling it for export. It would kill the IRFU to move out of D4, and they are only contributing a fraction of the cost
Great deal if you can get it and it’s the taxpayers who get screwed as usual.
BTW, the earliest this would be ready is 2008/2009. The Height would have to be significantly extended and an unholy row will brek out, so my guess will be 2012 and double the quoted price.
Whay do I prefer Stadium Ireland?
1) It won’t have the same planning objections or local vested snobs as Lansdowne
2) It has the space
3) It is a bold statement that our country/capital or its sporting click are not obssesed with Dublin 4 rugby. By that token, why not Cork?
and importantly
5) IT’S CHEAPER!!!!!!!
Yes, Lansdowne has the Dawrt, big deal, Abbotstown has Ashtown and other stations and the M50, but it’s not D4! Ever hear of buses?
The mother of all planning battles and hold-ups are now going to happen in D4 and it will cost an absolute fortune, which taxpayers not the IRFU or FAI are going to fork out for. In the meantime where do we play our matches cause it won’t be Croke Park.
Watch this space……………………………
€118 million from the FAI and IRFU, that’s a great deal!!
No corporate sponsorship or selling seats corporately. Sure it’s only the taxpayers money.
The final bill will be double what is anticipated, as and when the fleecers move in.
Personally, I would have prefered Abbotstown.
There now will be the mother of all battles re: planning in Dublin 4. There is NO way they wil be able to accomodatre 65,000 there and they know it.
Watch this space………………………
Kind of related. I was talking to some visitors on Saturday and they all agreed, that Ireland is a complete rip-off place. They say the prices don’t justify the dreadful lack of infrastructure or quality. Suppose, if you pay Swiss prices, you expect Swiss standards!!! They were amazed that the roads are not properly maintained or EVEN signposted!
They also queried whether inaction from the top was because people at the top are wrapped up in the whole thing..
I wanted to hide, and to think tourists bring in €7 billion to the economy every year……..
The fleecing has got to stop, projects have to be finished on time and on budget or we are seriously going to end up back in the 1980s.
Interestingly. Harland and Wolf, who were partly involved in this said they finished on time and budget. Is it impossible for people down here to do the same?
