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ParticipantInteresting counter argument is France, where hypermarkets exist outside bustling town centre, same in Netherlands, Germany and Sweden.
Why oh why do we always have to compare ourselves to the UK???
It’s a matter of choice and choice is healthy. If people want Scandanavian and trendy style furtniture, let them have IKEA, no one is forced to shop there!!!
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I was in Ikea in Brent Cross last Tuesday evening on a week’s visit to London, I won’t be back…. Should have seen the queues on a Tuesday night at 9PM!!!! The stuff has gone downmarket terribly and a Swedish friend of mine says it is very down market in Sweden!!But at least they and the rest of Europe have it!
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ParticipantEh, wouldn’t it be nice to have the choice……………
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ParticipantIf the RPA sorted out their PR, which is a disaster, do they employ anyone??? Sorted out their website updates which are laughable, what’s wrong with a bit more info and a few pics?
That would help…………
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ParticipantGod no!!! Connolly while welcome is very cheap and tacky. A clean up of Busaras yes, but don’t wreck it!
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ParticipantListen, let’s not get away from the facts, it is seriously over budget and not on time. That is not the government’s fault. The Light rail order was made in 1998/1999.. it is nearly 2004. The RPA were given the task of recruiting and supervising contractors and selecting an operator- not the government!
99% of people in Dublin want Luas to succeed. people are terribly frustrated with how the RPA and the conhtractors have organised it and the way they are going about it…
What has been happening since 1998? Who coordinated this mess???? The RPA!
People what happened before 1998 with the government was a mistake but please stop making excuses.
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ParticipantCould people please read the article, the comments are attributed to the head of the RPA, i.e the people RESPONSIBLE.
Sraight from the Horses mouth!!!!!!!
No one has invented this information
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ParticipantFrom the Irish Examiner website By Harry McGee, Political Editor
MINISTER for Transport Seamus Brennan is to seek Cabinet approval for his ambitious underground Dublin metro system this month, a move that will signal the death knell for the LUAS transit system even before it begins operations.
Under the proposals, the controversial LUAS system could be reduced to a single line within the next seven years and may cease to exist within 20 years.
If, as expected, the multi-billion metro project is approved by Cabinet, LUAS will be absorbed into the metro system as quickly as possible.
The tram project, which has cost€800 million and aroused huge controversy, will be a stop-gap measure with no role to play in the long term. One of its two lines Sandyford to Stephen’s Green could be subsumed into the metro by 2010, with the Tallaght route being turned into a metro line at a later stage.
Mr Brennan stopped short of saying that LUAS was a mistake but added that once the metro system is fully up and running, LUAS will be “gone”.
The first phase of the multi-billion metro project will be a link between Dublin Airport and the city centre. The minister is confident it will be running by 2007.
But, crucially, the minister said the second phase of the project will be the upgrade of the Sandyford-Stephen’s Green LUAS line to metro. Given the schedules the minister is pledging, that could be complete as early as 2009 or 2010.
The upgrade of the second LUAS line from Tallaght to the city centre will be a longer-term project, but Mr Brennan said a decision had not yet been reached. The problem with upgrading that route to metro, he said, was that it crossed roads at too many points and these sections would need to go underground.
Asked whether, in retrospect, he considered LUAS to be a mistake, Mr Brennan said: “The decision to built LUAS was taken pre-Celtic Tiger. If you were starting fresh, you would plan for a metro. [We] want to end up with an integrated system and not a patchwork-quilt of rail systems. LUAS will not be there at the end of the day. LUAS is gone,” he said.
The Rail Procurement Agency originally estimated the cost of the airport metro link at €4.8bn but that figure has been revised downwards, with some estimates now below €2bn. “The only way you can get an accurate price is to ask the marketplace,” Mr Brennan said. “I will be taking the proposal to do that to Cabinet.”Niall
ParticipantI hate to say but the sub-contractors ARE Dutch – Ballast Nedham.
The main contractors are Anasaldo Breda, Italians in a joint ‘effort’ with an Australian company. The operators Will be Connex- French. The people responsible are the RPA, a quango set up by Mary O’Rourke. I hate to say it but I think the RPA should be dissolved, they have handled this all terribly!
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Participant2081- the year it’ll be finished!!!
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ParticipantVery sceptical, its prob a trojan for more housing, to get it rezoned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ParticipantWaterfront Hall, Belfast. Civic Offices Dublin, Galway and Tullamore. Georges Quay Dublin………………….
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Participantbet the one in Scotland has no joins showing and gets a clean now and again
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ParticipantFountains- think Anna Livia and lots of bubbles and foam, need I say any more!
The Spike up close, looks awful, the joins are way too visible.
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ParticipantWell said Greg F!!!!! They deserve what they get.. Sonas was an excellent idea, excellent plan and a super revenue generating idea and to built all by the private sector! What have we now, thanks to the SNOBS……… NOTHING!
I hope they build flats.. Corporation ones with the worst tenants, that’ll give the Castleknock mafia something to moan about!
NIMBY, my a*se! We need legislation for the common good, not policy decided by a few vocal interest groups.
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Participanteh… not with CIE running the show!
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ParticipantThe luas.ie website is very poor for updates. In parts they are still talking about construction that took place last December!!!!!
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ParticipantTo be fair: no pain no gain. Just wish they would hurry up!
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ParticipantYeah, it would be nice to see a bit of consistency, rather than make it up as you go along. For the time and money it’s taking, I’d have imagined they would have used cobbles along the whole city route….
Evidently not.. Probably blame pipes and utilities
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ParticipantWell that ended this thread…..:o
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ParticipantWhat a load of nonsense… of course its usable. Don’t GAA coaches use it on big match days!
CIE are totally inept and there is a terrible culture in the semi-states of telling almighty fibs, I don’t know why.
The other unbelivable nonsense is the Port Tunnel is high enough. When the situation is that more than 10% per cent of trucks will have to rumble through Dublin’s streets when opened.
INCOMPETENCE to quote a famous politician GUBU. If CIE don’t want to run services through to Connolly from Heuston, well they can all clear off. We need a crosslink now, not in 15 years when metro, if it ever is built.
As for DCC ‘engineering’ department and the NRA and ‘oh we don’t need crash barriers on motorways’. If you didn’t laugh you’d cry!
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