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James’s has a bigger one on it’s bioler house, right on old Kilmainham there.
Wasn’t the Mary Mall, “height-and-a-half”? It certainly wasn’t as clautrophobic as the Parnell Mall, but I don’t recall it being that high!
Remember the old “bullet” lifts in the ILAC, they scared me silly going up in them as a kid, especially when you shoot up trough the glass roof! Whoosh!
Great little thread about a great little street, a street which I must admit I have never even walked down and I’m born and bred in Dublin! I always assumed it was private, somehow belonging to the BoI. That ex AIB is a wonderful building, just crying out to be used. This little gem of a street should not be connected to TB. The fact it’s a cul de sac is part of its charm.
The Wesrmoreland St/College Green redevelopment will be very interesting. I really hope Luas line A is chosen and private motor vehicles are excorcised from this axis, along with O’Connell St/Bridge. The whole area would make a magnificent pedestrian plaza with Foster Place being a little shaded haen in the summer and a cosy enclosed space in winter, imagine those trees outside the ex AIB building as a bar/restaurant all decorated in twinkly xmas lights, lovely.
Cheers Paul, I was thinking it looked like that gate (though I didn’t know its name) but knew it wasn’t in that area. Interesting that it was moved like that.
I’ve always favoured the Dawson St-College Green-Westmoreland St-O’Connell St alignment for the Luas link up and seeing those old photographs of the wonderfully wide strcture makes it all the more appealing. Imagine a city centre axis (Parnell sq-Stephen’s Green) devoid of the private car! It would be such a great location for trams, though of course DCC won’t be inclined to agree with the digging up of O’Connell St again!
How can anyone tell what condition that building is in from looking at it from outside?
It’s clad with 2 massive billboards and a painted over shopfront. If the roof has held up then there’s no reason to believe the building won’t be in reasonable shape inside, if a little damp. Ironically the billboards may have given additional protection to the structure from driving rain.
Am I alone in thinking the AT sketch with nice modern building framing his old one is visually interesting and not just “keeping the georgian for kepping’s sake”?
Does that AT sketch accurately reflect fanlights above the windows? (the old shop signage obscures them if they’re there). If they are hidden behind there it would make the little building even more adorable. I also think the sketch with chamfered corner modern building framing this one is very natural. That whole area is really depressing with Guiness’ boundary wall looming over Victoria? Quay.
Drumcondra’s two up two downs are not high or even medium density. They are low density, especially for an area within walking distance on the city centre.
Look at the two large blocks just north west of Drumcondra railway station in the image linked. There’s roughly 48 dwellings in all that space. I calculate that to be no more than 200 people, and that’s assuming 2 occupants to each bedroom-very generous IMO.
The blocks comprise a narrow ring of dwellings around a large area of back gardens! This stuff has to go to make better use of the land. Pan slightly north to see apartments, does anyone know if these were built on infill or were houses demolished to make way for them?
I’ve always been in favour of building higher, but how high can Dublin sustain before it becomes uneconomic for the developer?
Also, if high rise was allowed overnight at any location, there would be little incentive to densify (from houses wth gardens!) to modest 3/4/5 storey apartment blocks, providing a city-wide critical mass for mass transit.
The developers would just build everything to c. 30 storeys and the city would continue to have difficulty creating a widespread critical mass for transit.
I’d like to see Dublin densify (especially areas like Drumcondra, Rathmines etc.) in a widespread manner so that houses with gardens are limited to the very outside suburbs where they belong.
I found a wonderful image of Cologne (pop c. 1m but much denser than Dublin with almost the entire population residing inside an area roughly the same size as that encompassed by our canal rings) and it shows how disciplined the germans have been wrt density as their cities have grown (you couldn’t call it sprawl). This image is from the furthest north westerly extent of the city taken in 1886 and you can see them building a new street from this point. None f these buildings exist today, well, none that I can recognse from Friesenplatz today;
Today, Cologne can easily support a comprehensive mass transit system, though I rarely use it because the city centre is rarely beyond walking distance!
@Paul Clerkin wrote:
Lived there for a year myself, Andrew, top floor, end of block seen in photo. Great view of the city from balcony. Liked it a lot actually, and not just for the good pubs in the vicinity.
Those darned immigrants with their massive sattelite dishes ruin it though! 😀
Cheers seamus, I was fairly confident the building had gone but wasn’t exactly sure where it used to stand. They used to transport cattle by train to be slaughtered there I believe. Twas a fairly tall building, I’d say 5 storeys, would that be right?
Yes Dave, at the time the M50 was being conceived the plan was to extend the M7 from Naas between the Grand Canal and Great Southern Railway as far as a proposed junction 8 on the M50. This plan is now dead (thank God) and the present upgrade of the N7 between Naas and Rathcoole are happening because this is to be the route traffic from the south will take as it heads for the M50.
We don’t have that many grand plans that have been abandoned to be honest, the north had serious plans to build motorways all over the place, the bulk of which have now been officially abandoned.
The beading around Hibernia on that one makes it look like an oval pound coin! Great sculpture though-the effort that was put into public buildings back then really showed a sense of pride in them. The unicorn is class. I have a huge soft spot for the CH too, especially by night from across the river at high tide when the water’s still-fantastic reflection; Can’t find a good pic but imagine it from this;
@Niall wrote:
murphaph
Have seen your ‘posts’ on other boards. Particularly, the one about ‘what life would have been like if we were still part of the ‘United’ Kingdom…… http://www.boards.ie : 😮
That’s a good thread that. 2,000 odd views to date. What’s wrong with a HYPOTHETICAL thread in a POLITICS forum about the POLITICS of Ireland and Britain?! :rolleyes:
@Niall wrote:
We have nothing to be ashamed of (down here)
I’m not ashamed of anything, perhaps you are?
@Niall wrote:
Grow up!
Touche.
@Niall wrote:
Are you a card carrying member of the DUP?
No.
@Niall wrote:
95% of people on this little island want to get on…. The people in the ‘South’ are quite happy being themselves and running their own country. When the people in the ‘north’ sort themselves out, they are welcome to join us…
Erm,ok, whatever makes you happy, personally I will vote NO in any referendum on allowing Northern Ireland to become part of the Republic. I don’t think we need to subsidise the place-it vacuums up £4bn a year from Westminster you know! 🙂
@Niall wrote:
Oh …………………….. and I am an Architect.
Good for you. :confused:
@jimg wrote:
Enjoy waving your flags, marching, singing patriotic songs or whatever floats your boat. Irish history is lot more complex than you seem to believe.
I could not agree with this more. Irish history is far more complex than many appreciate. Singing and dancing and waving tricolours just because is not my cup of tea either.
Edit: That’s all I’m gonna say on this here. It’s way OT, sorry to the mods.
Erm, the 1616 rising failed though, so what’s to ‘celebrate’? There were rebellions before it that failed also, why not celebrate the all? I’m with jimg on this-marching our little army up and down Sackville* Street because FF are worried the nazis, I mean SF are making a better job of sporting the ‘republican’ mantle is pathetic.
To be honest, if we actually had a miltary of any significance it might be a little less pathetic, but we don’t.
1916 is not cut & dry. It was not universally supported at the time and it is not universally supported today, so the fervent republicans should get over it. I’m irish, I’m not proud because I’m irish because it was an accident-I could have been born a black baby in Lesotho, luckily for me I wasn’t, that’s all.
Marching up and down streets to celebrate one’s ‘culture’ is the kind of stuff that goes down a treat in sectarianland, I mean Northern Ireland. I don’t want my country, Ireland, to head down that road-we’re only just becoming a more pluralistic society today, and just beacuse other countries (incidentally all the examples cited here are of imperial (the US) or former imperial powers (Austria, France and the UK)) do it, why should we? We were never an imperial power, so that’s a big difference. Fair enough-every tinpot african country ‘celebrates’ this way-is that how we view ourselves?
*bait.
The north stand will indeed leak atmosphere. It could have been a cauldron for foreign teams to come to, but not now. It’ll be far less intimidating to foreign teams with a missing end, and it is essentially missing. The interior renderings looking north clearly show this. Why can’t we just have one thing done properly in this country. Surely the houses on Havelock Square could have been CPO’ed.
I like the ‘podium’ area that will be built over the exiting DART line, but I wonder how access will be facilitated to this ‘mezzanine’ from say, Landsdowne road-it’ll be at quite a height from street level if the road is to be lowered under the railway where the LC is now.
All I can say about having 2 stadia in Dublin is that I’m glad it’s not going to be turned into apartments like Glenmalure Park-Rovers never recovered from that.
RGDATA make my blood boil, arrrggghh…..just thinking about them……conspiring
Half of the ‘locals’ are people who will have moved into the area in the last decade, mostly into the apartment complexes near Ballsbridge. How anyone living there with an ounce of common sense can think that this beautiful piece of construction will detract from the area that currently has the world’s shittiest international football stadium. I hate going to Landsdowne now-the charm of the place wore off on me years ago-it’s old and decrepit.
Indeed, nice old house but it is not important enough to prevent development. If it can be incorporated in a way that doesn’t look ridiculous, it should be, but if not-bye bye house! (I’m always reminded of that little cottage type building in Landsdowne Road Stadium when I see Corballis house-strange juxtaposition.
Maybe it could be moved?
