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@Morlan wrote:
Do you think the ESB/Government will ever replace the Georgian terrace that once existed on Merrion Sq.? If they did, it would create the longest Georgian street in the world, would it not?
It’d be the longest Georgian/fake Georgian street in the world then.
In what way does the development overlook your house? Does the back of one of the new houses, back onto yours? In that case, how far away are their overlooking windows from your boundary wall, windows etc.? any chance of a basic diagram? would be able to help you more then.
Have to say, am really excited by the above scheme. I recently visited sligo for the first time and actually looked at the site (had vague recollections of the first scheme). I think the revised design is infinitely more suited to the site than the first one which (i feel) did not have the sensivety to its context that is now present. I was always a fan of the actual layout which i don’t think is forced despite its angular plan. heres hoping!
Graham Hickey wrote:The colour in Murray O’Laoire’s pictures is remarkably different – is it an undercoat?
Yes the ‘simply purple’ description sums up that part well, couldn’t quite put my finger on it before – the ‘radical’ colour merely helps detract from the fact that there’s little architecture in the elevation its pasted onto.
Quote:little architecture in the elevation? does that mean architecture is the stuff stuck onto a building rather than the building itself? nothing wrong with a bit of austerity, makes a change from the brick soldier courses and timber/copper/zinc bits stuck on to buildings all over the city.[url=http://www.lovingarchitecture.com/index.php?294&tx_mjseventpro_pi1[showUid]=78]http://www.lovingarchitecture.com/index.php?294&tx_mjseventpro_pi1[showUid]=78[/url]
more cedar cladding, bit older though.
@Devin wrote:
…..Going off track.
Post 34 by republicofcork is one of the best contributions ever on Cork on the site. You can’t keep calling black white. As republicofcork carefully explained, why No. 21 Lavitt’s Quay is wrong is not a matter of opinion. Writing a 4,000 word reply does not validate your reply. You are prolonging a debate when there is none.
Defending No. 21 Lavitt’s Quay on the basis that it hides a multi-storey carpark is the last straw. Stockholm is demolishing its multi-storey carparks. The cark park is irrelevant – it could be gone in 5 or 10 years. Even if it weren’t, it has no relevance to the ridiculous inapprpriateness of the below building.
Shield your eyes, people
I have to say, I can’t see how anyone could defend this. I was in Cork last week and saw it in the flesh. I took the time to read the above (lengthy!) posts but they don’t tally with what I saw. It would be foolish to think that the architects made a considered and informed decision to adhere to existing conditions and hierarchy. This is pure ‘get ’em in ‘ developer driven crap. The curved facade is not a thought-out attempt to give emphasis to the the laneway. It comes from the ‘lets throw a curve on the corner, what?’ school of design. The economic argument always makes me laugh (especially re: liffey valley), often you hear it on the radio when people that raise legitimate questions about a proposal are tarred as ‘anti-development’. A proposed project may provide a load of construction and post-construction jobs, it may provide much needed facilities and it may also be supported by 80% of the local population but if it means catastrophically destroying the very fabric of a city, town or village then sometimes, all of the above shouldn’t be enough to get it built (extreme example, I know).
O’Callaghan Properties are there to make money, their architects will give them what they wan’t. Maybe planning authorities should employ people with both planning and architectural expertise during the planning process, I would like to see the architects try to justify No. 21 Lavitt’s Quay at a pre-planning meeting to not just planners, but also other architects!
@PDLL wrote:
What are his choices: either he pays a shit load of money that he probably doesn’t have to get some fancy architect -designed home (a luxury for many) that fulfils all of the criteria for a Duncan Stewart visit or he lives in some crap mass produced house on the outskirts of one of our towns.
@PDLL wrote:
So what are these guys options – well he can pay a fortune to have a nice architect-designed home that will respect the environment and the contours of the field he wishes to site it in or he he can pay a fortune to have a nice architect-designed home that will respect the environment and the contours of the field he wishes to site it in. Good, he knows where he stands. The poor guy though is probably one of those people who just wants a reasonable home at a level that he can afford – he isn’t applying for the cover of Home and Garden.
Could someone tell me, if you wan’t to build a four bed 170sqm one-off house in the country the what is the difference in cost between buying a set of plans or getting an architect to design it?
@kefu wrote:
The insurance issue is only an issue because the skaters themselves are suing after they fall.
So before we immediately blame the insurance industry, if the skaters signed a waiver (of if indeed waivers had any legal standing) – that wouldn’t necessarily be an issue.
After all, if you’re involved in any physical activity, particularly one like skateboarding where you will fall and regularly, you can’t say you didn’t know the dangers.insurance isn’t an issue, it’s a smokescreen. Football is a physical activity where not only will you fall regularly but also may engage in repeated physical confrontation with others yet there is no problem with insurance there and quite rightly so
@aj wrote:
i tend to agree with Morlan.. a little money could make a huge difference…Fitzwilliam St and Fingal Council offices on o`connell St would be the first two on my hit list
Yeah but what would you replace Fingal Council offices with? Reproduction Georgian or maybe a little Victorian? Or aren’t those 1950’s vitrolite shopfronts all the rage now?
In the latest 10×10.2 book from Phaidon (asking 10 prominent architecture critics, inc. Zaha Hadid and Dejan Sudic, to each name 10 up and coming architecture practices in the world today) O’Donnell Tuomey, Boyd Cody, Tom de Paor and Grafton Architects are all represented. Grafton are building a University in Milan, Heneghan Peng are designing the Grand Museum at Giza, Egypt, O’Donnell Tuomey…..Stirling Prize……….Bucholz McEvoy………….. .. . . . the grass is not always greener. give THEM a chance
@kefu wrote:
Dublin City Council could easily remove the kiosks without loss of face. They did it with good intentions, but it hasn’t worked out………
The kiosks certainly wouldn’t look out of place in Croke Park – in terms of their design – and the City Council should just hand them over for free.
It should be noted that the kiosks were not designed in house by DCC, but were designed by Gilroy McMahon who strangely enough also designed Croke Park.
here’s some photos of clonmel,
the westgate, the mainguard, the friary, the courthouse, old st. Mary’sdidn’t they cover a gap on O’Connell Street with a replica image of the facade of Dr. Quirkeys? I think it’s still there.
