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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2009/0418/1224244966234.html
The art of the parking space
MANY FAMOUS NAMES have tried their hand – one of Frank Gehry’s most noted early buildings was a shopping centre complete with multi-storey car park in Santa Monica
ho ho ho!
The bus gate is a short term solution to an age old problem…
Dublin’s biggest pinch point and Dublin’s biggest interchange…
It is possible and it would work a treat…but as has been discussed at length cars are preferable to buses or luas’s…
How do you dig up this whole place bit by bit???
the milan method? mabye…
precast formwork… mabye…
2 lanes at a time… mabye…
working from 10pm till 6 am…. and then installing bailey bridges
do you keep metro north north exits north/south = and move the whole thing south?no pain no gain its time to triangulate…
I would like to see an NRA proposal for an underground carpark and tunnels…
car access will make it safer at night…
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0330/breaking34.html
Dublin bus gate will not relieve congestion, AA warns
The plan to shut off part of Dublin’s city centre to cars will not lead to a “sufficient improvement†in public transport services and may disrupt the commercial life of the area, the Automobile Association has warned.
Dublin City Council’s bus gate plan would see a public-transport-only route from Dame Street across College Green to Westmoreland Street coming into force from July.
A similar restriction would be in place for private traffic coming in the opposite direction, from D’Olier Street around College Green and into Dame Street.
But AA’s director of policy Conor Faughnan said today the plan to ban general traffic around College Green will have a limited affect on motorists as few private cars still use the area because of existing restrictions on O’Connell Street and Georges Street.
Mr Faughnan said the congestion in the College Green area is primarily caused by buses as 60 per cent of Dublin Bus passengers commuting across the Greater Dublin Area travel through O’Connell Street to College Green.
“The congestion in the College Green area seems to be dominated by buses and I am not convinced that enough planning or work has been done to minimise it,†he said.
“There would be a significant effect on the numbers of shoppers using the car parks with a consequent cost to local traders who are very concerned about it. Clearly we do not wish to do economic damage to the city,†he said.
The plan will also be affected by the construction of both the Luas extension and the construction of Metro North, he added.
Minister for Transport Noel Dempsey and Minister for Energy Eamon Ryan are understood to strongly favour the plan and have expressed impatience with the city council on the progress of the restrictions.
But business groups such as the Dublin Chamber of Commerce and Dublin City Business Association claim the plan will be detrimental to the Dublin economy.
and a new bridge not that its needed…
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2009/0331/1224243732672_1.html
@Morlan wrote:
There are no plans to pedestrianise College Green. :confused: Who told you that?
The main pedestrian crossings will be widened slightly. That’s about it.
http://www.dublincity.ie/RoadsandTraffic/QBNProjectOffice/QBN/Documents/T-QBN-127-DSL-001.pdf
There is a plan which has been submitted for the new development plan.
It just needs to be worked up for 2016.
I wonder if it will get a mention in December 2009?
Some one in cad is going to have to bat for this tooth and nail…
once the luas is in it is a nail in the coffin…This committee prepares and debates policy alternatives for transport and traffic affairs for Dublin City Council.
Michael Philips, (Director of Traffic / City Engineer) has administrative responsibility for this committee.
Members* Councillor Sean Kenny (Labour Party), Chairperson
* Councillor Brendan Carr (Labour Party)
* Councillor Larry O’Toole (Sinn Féin)
* Councillor Deirdre Heney (Fianna Fáil)
* Councillor Paddy McCartan (Fine Gael)
* Councillor Mary Fitzpatrick (Fianna Fáil)
* Councillor Naoise O’Muiri (Fine Gael)
* Councillor Ray McHugh (Sinn Féin)
* Councillor Andrew Montague (Labour Party)
* Councillor Michael Conaghan (Labour Party)
* Mr. Derek Peppard, Dublin Cycling Campaign
* Mr Conor Faughnan, AA Ireland
* Mr. Liam Brewer, Irish Road Haulage Association
* Mr. Finbarr Cleary, Chartered Institute of Logistics and Transport in Ireland
* Mr. Johnny Murtagh, People with Disabilities in Irelandhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/wienschau/2401507169/
they forgot one thing… signage;)
If every other place in Europe can do this it leaves little to the imagination
@pulp wrote:
How practical would it be in the future to tear down the current detritus and re-build new Georgian streets with a number of apartments in each “house” With 4 or 5 stories are they not be a medium density elegant solution to Dublin. A common design standard could be agreed to accurately replicate the original stock with door and window dimension specs, material specs etc with stringent sign off before anything is actually built. Over the course of 40/50 years we could recreate elegant streets and clear out all the present junk allowing beautiful modern buildings to be built in outlying areas such as East Village, SoHe etc?
This is where I feel the Henrietta st comp. went amidst they deserved to win but how much more valuable would an off the shelf kit planning /Georgian passive standard/ fire cert and a price calculator? I think the black men and swans know how to do row housing it just needs to be tweaked.
When legacy is dead on arrival
The lack of civic-mindedness during the decades of “greed is good†has delivered only zombie public spaces, devoid of any life
Jonathan Glancey
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=427&storycode=3133953&c=2&encCode=000000000190152d
horns no;)
@Alek Smart wrote:
But PTB..did you not take a couple more shots pf DCC`s Traffic Cones and Tape arrangement surrounding the base….I presume to prevent persons being decapitated by falling chunks of frozen snow ?
I`ll wager Ian Ritchie didn`t include this in any of his original sketches ?
vienna is deadly dangerous even for cars…
@notjim wrote:
I hope they show some steel with this and do it.
What is going to make this space work is only 1 lane eastward around 3.4 metres
and one lane west ward one lane north south. regardless of whether it is for single storey electric buses or some mini luas. Otherwise kick them out too… and consider the college green pyramid. The buses/ luas should loop/teminate close to this spaceCars should be able to use these single lanes after say 10 pm – 6 am and more on weekends for eyes and ears. Bus/Luas stops terminating will provide more security as well.
The space is already an above ground car park so just put it underground and we can add a couple of hundred car spaces and exits with free parking when capacity is below 20%. There has been no car tunnels from the NRA proposed… This will be offset by harmony… a few thousand bicycle spaces and new tourist attraction;)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2009/0131/1232923377631.html
Admitting that not all of Dublin’s newest public spaces are successful yet, she says good public spaces often need to evolve – they “just don’t spring into lifeâ€.
Public spaces The good, the bad and the undetermined
THE GOOD
Good public spaces in Dublin, according to architect Seán Harrington, include Grafton Street, Temple Bar Square, Bloom’s Lane, Trinity College’s front quadrangle and Meeting House Square when it’s not raining. Patrick Street in Cork and the town bridge in Athlone are fine examples of functional public spaces, according to architect Alan Mee. Despite controversy, Eyre Square in Galway continues to be central to public life, he says. For Dublin City Architect Ali Grehan, the piers in Dún Laoghaire and the Bull Wall are “functional but fantasticâ€.
THE BAD
For Harrington, examples of bad public space in the capital include the car-choked quays and College Green, the space beside City Hall on Dame Street, the space on Kildare Street by the Department of Agriculture Building and Wolfe Tone Park.
I dream that college green will be sorted by 2016;) but what goes below it is going to be the hard part.
GrahamH wrote:Good to see DCC laying down the line there. However the proposal for ‘continuity of design from O’Connell Street’ is something I would not like to see. [/IMG]I agree the bridge has to be a unique but integrated.
nothing beats a butlers hot chocolate… ‘World leaders’ meeting at an economic forum have a lot on their mind – their own interests, writes Vincent Browne.
and
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2009/0128/1232923368264.html
We use Scats (Sydney Coordinated Adaptive Traffic System). It’s from Australia and we’ve been using it for about 18 years.
“We need more people to go on public transport – to use buses, to cycle and to walk,” says Traynor. “There needs to be more integration between public transport and traffic management systems, which we are working on.”my whole theory is the Irish don’t want to become involved in world war 3 by attracting attention with tall buildings.
