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@lexington wrote:

🙂 Lidl GmbH has gone in for a 3rd time with an application to develop a store in the Churchfield area of Cork. The plan, for Mount Agnes Road will incorporate a single storey discount foodstore and a further 2-storey building containing 5 community units and associated car-parking. Third time lucky for Lidl?

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No mickeydocs , had the post up last night but I’ll have it up again by mid-day fingers crossed!

of course 14th of June = planning date for Patricks Quay

any news on the everyman palace and their plans for the quay?

any decision date expected on Eglinton Street?

Thanks as always

How come we’ve gone back to four stars?

@Aidan wrote:

In terms of the cost of this, would it not be better to look at reopening the Midleton-Youghal railway line?

Unfortunately, no. The costs of running the Midleton line to Youghal, at least in the medium term, are a lot higher than you’d expect, and the additional traffic generated would be much less that that required to run a service. Prioblem is that Youghal isn’t that big, it doesn’t have the capacity to generate that much extra critical mass. Midleton is being developed at the pace it is precisely because it does have extant critical mass to require such services, and it already has significant transport infrastructure.

Additionally, a lot of the traffic on that section of the N25 isn’t local, it isn’t really that much of a commuter route, its a major route for heavy transport (read trucks). Upgrading the road is required anyways, the increase in business in the area is putting the network under severe pressure. Putting a sizeable park n’ride in Midleton, with enough trainsets to run a proper service, in addition to improved roads on the Midleton-Youghal section is the chosen solution for a reason. Whether it works out like that is a different matter.

In any case, the railway alignment will remain in public hands. Who knows, in 20 years, when Midleton is a city in its own right (!), the maybe extending it will be an option. It isn’t now.

Isn’t the N25 a designated Euro Route?

@Paul Clerkin wrote:

Regardless of the pros and cons of the situation, this decision means both sides lose.

Legal objections are going to tie up progress for years to come. (In Ireland, and then, failing that…the European courts). Plus the added huge expense (on top of building it in the first place!) of contracting out the significant excavation work, entailing significant numbers of archaeologists, to eventually excavate the route. We know through geophysical survey, that there are at least 26 ‘sites’ of archaeological interest along the contentious part of the proposed route. (14.5km section from Dunshaughlin to Cannistown.)

http://www.p45blogs.net/globaleyes/archives/002074.html

not just archeological sites, we are talking about sites that should be un sanctioned world heritage sites, these are the most important archaeological sites in Ireland by some distance.

@ewankennedy wrote:

Thanks for that rodger. I think so too about high-rise. People keep complaining about how Cork is not suited to high-rise blah blah blah, but in the right places like the docklands I think it would be most complimentary. As a city matures youve got 2 options – up or out. I for one believe up. If a building is designed well and artistically I think it should be encouraged. The backward minds of the old folk would rather see our beautiful countryside engulfed with never ending patterns of boring housing estates and local shops. If we keep that up we’re going to regret it one day with Blarney a suburb, Ballincollig part of an extended city centre and Kinsale a quick sprint from the latest suburban shopping mall. As Yazz once said, the only way is up! Anyone know if there are any other plans for a highrise in the docklands??? Beside the OCP, Water st and Eglinton st ones? And I mean decent, well designed things, not Victoria mills 9-storey bricks. Decent 20-storey-ers???

Blarney will be a suburb when they build the 5,000 houses in Monard…

what’s the word on Manor Homes, are they still plannins a 25 storey building?

@macai wrote:

Whilst walking down south main st today, I once again noticed that most unsightly site that used to be the former liberty bar directly across from the mannix shop and next to the telephone shop if memory serves me correctly this old bar was torn down in ’98 – ’99? when it was deemed unsafe, I believe a couple of years ago planning may have been put in for apartments can anyone correct me on this one? while the area is being rejuvenated with the back of the old queens being re-developed anyone know is there any plans for this site, it has to be a very valuable site with its location

I miss the Liberty and bottles of cider on tick… helped me get through college 😀

What’s the latest on the Mannix site btw?

Dublin is the leading capital in Europe

what a bizarre comment!

Let’s hope all future transport initiatives are thought through… why not outsource to someone such as sncf with a great record of success in terms of public transport.

well i cant’t help my self either

The facts from the 2002 census back up EwanKennedy’s claim that Cork’s greater population is greater than Limerick and Galway combined is correct.

Main Towns
Total Population (including Suburbs or Environs)
Cork 186,239… this does not include Carrigaline, Midleton, Cobh, Passage West, Glanmire, Blarney, Tower (or any other of the satellite towns, although it does include Ballincollig);
Limerick 86,998 (Includes Castletroy, and the suburbs in Co. Clare);
Galway 66,163 (doesn’t include Oranmore)

Do your sums

now can you back up that limerick city is wealtheir that cork per capita fact?
how come property prices don’t back-up this apparent wealth?

BTW… Ringaskiddy and the Pharmachem region generate in excess of $8 billion per annum alone.

Now I’m off back to the thread that keeps me coming back to this forum 🙂

And now I feel really childish 🙂

Great post Ewan… maybe we should change the name of both towns to cities of the tribes(alism).

@ewankennedy wrote:

this whole ‘Limerick’s wealthy’ thing is getting a little tiresome, i thought this page was suppose to be about the developments and architecture of Limerick – not a competitive jibe. People should learn to accept facts – Galway is 3rd largest (in terms of population re: 1986 boundary extension), but Limerick is more urbanly structured (though its city boundaries encompass a smaller population). Cork is larger than both – and if wealth is an issue, Cork generates greater economic output that both Limerick and Galway put together. But likewise, Dublin is larger than Cork and generates an economic output in excess of the aforementioned. Deal with it people, its not a competition. If it comes down to a ‘I drive a bigger car than you’ tit-for-tat, well then Cork, Belfast and Dublin drive bigger cars than both of ye (i was going to use another analogy but its probably too crude for this site 😀 ) Its just the way things are. ye should be proud of yer identities and stand up to them when unfairly treated, both Limerick and Galway have enough merits of their own to be able to discuss pleasantly. i happen to like lots of things about both cities and things i dont like so much but lets get back to what the page title says ‘what about all the developments popping up in shannonside?’ Note developments in the title and as this is an architecture page, these develpments should have some architectural reference or link too. 🙂

btw where does the info that Limerick is Ireland’s third wealthiest town come from… this doesn’t seem to fit in with the cost of property in Limerick.