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  • in reply to: Architecture Week??? #714984
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    It doesnt work

    in reply to: riai website #715074
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    what url?

    in reply to: Architecture Week??? #714978
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    Its this current week isnt it?

    in reply to: Just back from London: What a Beautiful Mish-Mash! #715016
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    Irish Times Article 7.09.00 What do y’all think ?

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    Dearth of originality leaves Ireland in cultural desert

    Ireland is a non-contributor – a taker not a giver, a parasite of ideas, not a supplier. Apeing America and culturally parasitic, Ireland viewed from afar has little to offer writes Desmond Fennell

    It’s a pity Dermot Desmond’s multi-storey glass pyramid will not be built in Dublin docks. A tall, handsome, striking building, it was to contain an aquarium and simulated tropical forest. Although the architect was American, the promoter, like the location, was Irish. In a city and country fast becoming a derivative English-American mish-mash, it would have provided a note of distinction – and might have spurred creative innovation in Dublin and outside it.

    Normally a nation maintains its cultural visibility through a combination of distinctive inherited things – language, religion, manmade environment, customs, arts – and distinctive creative innovations. What Lara Marlowe some months ago called the “Temple Bar Celtic Tiger culture” has little time for the inherited elements of Irish culture. Pushing them to the margins or wishing them buried, it displays its English and American “with-itness” proudly. Hence the urgent need for creative innovations if Ireland is to remain culturally visible in the world.

    I write as one who lives on the Continent, where Ireland figures in the news only as Northern Ireland politics. News of creative innovation never reaches us from Ireland. In a very concrete sense, the lack of such news from Ireland makes Ireland absent from Europe – and in effect from the world.

    Europe, the West generally, is an evolving co-operative life in which fresh leads, models and perspectives come now from this country, now from that. In this context of give and take, Ireland is a non-contributor – a taker not a giver, a parasite of ideas and models, not a supplier.

    Proud as we are to have the contemporary West – its ideas and ethics, its practices and problems – now at home in Ireland, we assume they are here simply to absorb or gawp at, not to think about, critically, inventively and with effect. That work, we assume, is for London and New York. Heads bowed in anticipation, we await their next directives.

    The result is that, as the distinctive Ireland of modern times – rural, Catholic, poor, struggling for freedom, anti-imperialist, restoring its Gaelic language – passes away, a blank space is replacing it, culturally speaking, on the international scene.

    “Prospering on massive American investment, a nice place for holidays and weekends, the home of excellent entertainers and craic” doesn’t add up to the kind of presence that merits one serious or respectful thought – except from east European competitors for US investment.

    People who want English or American lifestyle know where to find the genuine articles and have no need of “Paddy” imitations. To put it bluntly, what is making Ireland culturally invisible is not so much the Celtic Tiger’s marginalisation of traditional Ireland as the lack of originality in Irish thinking and practice which preceded the Tiger and which still continues. Originality is another way of saying creative innovation.

    Even if we did not know it from personal experience, we could assume that this dearth of originality in Irish life is not due to a complete absence of questioning, freethinking, inventive Irish minds. Presumably, there are at least as many such minds here as in any other nation of our size.

    No, the absence of originality that can be observed in Irish public thinking and in Irish practice is due to something else; namely, effective opposition by Irish society to Irish original thinking getting published and discussed, or having its projects implemented. Put differently, the controlling forces in Irish society effectively compel Irish people to outward conformity and imitation.

    I said that creative innovation is needed urgently if Ireland is to remain culturally visible in the world. It might be argued that there is no pressing need for such visibility to continue – or to be restored. The world can get along without Irish innovative thinking or action – can even, if need be, find substitutes for its Irish entertainers. In the Republic of Ireland, massive cultural derivativeness and economic boom go hand in hand without apparent contradiction.

    All that is true. No imperative requires that we regain cultural distinctiveness. But it would still be a momentous event for Ireland, after all its history, to end up a mixture of Lancashire and Massachusetts. Minimal self-respect demands that we should at least be aware of what is happening, and consciously choose our cultural dissolution rather than drift into it, mindlessly.
    Desmond Fennell’s latest book is The Postwestern Condition: Between Chaos and Civilisation.

    in reply to: former cinemas of ireland #716275
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    ahhhh that could be it

    in reply to: former cinemas of ireland #716271
    MG
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    The Volta was on Mary or Abbey Street

    in reply to: Dublin’s Churches #718496
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    Thats a common misconception. St Georges qwas not designed by the same architect, merely copied the spire.

    in reply to: former cinemas of ireland #716269
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    Store on the Quays (Ellis Quay I think)….. what was it before a furniture store…. inside has curved balcony level reached by two staircases…. ornate plasterwork on the walls and ceilings… seems to be s lower or sunken area (possibly dancefloor) with four columns, one at each corner….

    was it a dancehall or a cinema? the exterior is characterised by a small semi-circular window in the middle of the facade?

    in reply to: ‘The Shock of the Old’ TV series #714802
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    An excellent series, the last episode on modernism was a nice introduction to modern architecture for the uniniatated.

    Well worth watching, and as usual for a UK production, it looked woinderful.

    in reply to: riai website #715070
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    wouldnt be hard for it to be better than the former ones…..

    in reply to: Dublin’s Churches #718490
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    I actually think that it was just that Semple was fairly innovative – he also designed the Black Church now an architect’s office

    in reply to: Smithfield Plaza continued….. #714900
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    “evoking colourful Venetian carnivals”

    LOL….. I live there and there is no similarity not even passing…… personally I think it was an excuse for the locals to claim ownership of the space before larger and much needed developments take place…..

    in reply to: Conservation should not be anti-development #714815
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    These developments could be around for the next 50 years and should be viewed in the same light as the grand setpieces (which at least have an architect involved) where many of these dont get any notice at all…. where many of the setpieces have a nod towards civic space and involvement, these developments dont and an taisce doesnt complain….

    for all the comments about belted earls in the past about the Irish Georgian Society, they are a whole lot less elitest than that crowd sitting in their ivory Tailors Hall……

    in reply to: Conservation should not be anti-development #714813
    MG
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    Exactly, I’m currently living in a similar development in the Smithfield area, and while its a grand spot to live, its nothing to look at architecturally.

    in reply to: Conservation should not be anti-development #714811
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    yes, but our systeme of parish pump politics would mean that we would have the likes of Healy Rae Jnr giving planning permission for a strip of bungalows from Kerry to Malin Head if he could….

    in reply to: Conservation should not be anti-development #714809
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    From what I can see, An Taisce only appeals against those cases with publicity, keeping their heads down when developers present average brick facade 4/5 storey buildings with a set back roof terrace for planning….

    they’re in it for publicity, to appear to be doing something….. unwilling to attempt genuine change by changing the attitude of developers towards good architecture instead comoplaining against the architect led developments

    in reply to: Dublin’s Churches #718480
    MG
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    St Paul’s is a pretty fine exterior although I’ve never been in it.

    St Paul’s CofI on Nth King Street while not a great church, suffers from its surroundings, in particular, those dire corpo flats on Blackhall Place

    St Mary’s is a disgrace, first a home decor store and now a proposal for a bar.

    St George’s is a sad case, first it has lost its urban setting and now turned into a venue.

    in reply to: Smithfield, Dublin #712306
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    http://www.independent.ie/2000/249/d10c.shtml

    DUBLIN County Council’s Central Area committee
    last night condemned the “high-handed” behaviour of
    the city manager in granting planning permission to a
    £126m development in the Smithfield area.

    An emergency motion agreed last night said the
    manager should have addressed the serious concerns
    expressed by the local community and councillors at
    the Central Area Committee and the HARP
    monitoring committee. He also failed to await the
    outcome of the Urban Height and Density study
    which is due to report shortly.

    in reply to: riai website #715065
    MG
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    Every incarnation of the RIAI website has been a disgrace to the profession and I don’re really expect the new one to be any differant.

    in reply to: Smithfield, Dublin #712296
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    I havent noticed those posters, but then I’m not paying much attention at the moment.

    Now that I live down there, I still think the Plaza design is pretty poor!

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