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The article in the Indo said
“the high quality of the design involved was a factor in the decision”.
Is this a precedent? I normally see submissions made on design dismissed as irrelevant/subjective and that submissions need to be based on planning regulations rather than any aesthetic consideration.
In any case what makes this a high quality design? The pictures I’ve seen are of a very ordinary looking design. Dated rather than timeless. Nothing I see in it suggests that the height was an intrinsic element fo design. Looks almost like it was an adjustable plan and you could add of subtract 20 stories at a time without needing too much work!
Has anyone read the full report – did anBP elaborate on the role design played on the decision?Interesting too that the height of the spire has been greatly superceded. I had been worried that the spire would form an artificial planning ceiling on dublin.
Georges Dock is the one on by the Harbormaster.
I don’t see an obvious spot where a theatre can fit on this site.
Looking at the outer dock…
There’s the big waste of space that is the gravel garden to the left of the dock, surrounded on three side and there’s the dock itself I suppose. This is sometimes filled in with a temporary platform. There a Shakspeare tent there at the moment but I guess the national theatre will need something more substantial!
Then there’s the inner dock:
there’s already apartment buildings built inside the dock here (requiring an engineering overhaul recently I heard!)
Maybe the theatre will go here.
On stilts?The precedent could be for a cluster to develop in that location as more CIE land is made available (as opposed to scattering)….
this highlights what a stumpy mess the docklands is.
@dave123 wrote:
…what is needed is neccessary to carry the amount of traffic for any don’t you think?
Motorways generate traffic [as well as absorbing some of it].
I notice that Mr Grant has a current application in for retention of an extension built without permission to his business address at 61 Haddington Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4.
Planning Application Reference: 3072/05
This application was made 27-May-2005 so there’s still time for submissions from the public 🙂 .
A previous application (2447/05 ) was declared invalid on the 10-May-2005.
@Thomond Park wrote:
its a good website
I’ll certaintly grant you that. It’s a good campain too by all accounts.
Remember the plywood hoarding when they were building the National gallery wing? It had a picture of the goose girl on it. I liked that and it advertised the museum itself.
Ennis Town Council adopted new bye laws yesterday which ban cycling, skateboarding and rollerblading from its parks and open spaces.
That’s great lad’s. Well done. :rolleyes:
An article on this in the Indo also notes that Ennis has yet to provide even one cycle lane.@Thomond Park wrote:
You have to register with a valid e-mail and password is sent out, there were problems with anonomous posts, I note from earlier threads here that anonomous posts were stopped a long time ago.
Should still be able to access posted info without registration though…? A “Register to post” policy is debatable (but maybe ok), but register to read….? I wonder was there a problem with anonomous reading :rolleyes:
“What is a Derelict Site? #5480
Land which materially detracts from a surrounding area because of: 1. The presence of ruinous or dangerous structures 2. The neglected or unsightly condition of land or structures 3. The accumulation of litter or waste.”So to answer your question. Yes.
Think you can approach it as a neglected structure.To get a site registered as derelict ring City Council Derelict Sites part of the Development Unit +353 1 222 2143
Section 11 covers all this stuff
Good images! Thanks for the link phil – It’s very difficult to find anything on that Platform 11 site. Also it seems to be a closed shop anyway.
Temporary or not – my objection would be the use of public space and environment to benefit a comercial enterprise or a small select few of the public. It undermines public ownership of public space and intrudes on peoples enjoyment of the same.
Pure advertising I guess is the reason.
“Close to the shores of Dublin Bay, the apartments at the Lighthouse are the perfect choice for everyone who thrives on the buzz of the city living” etc etc.The advertising seems to use an image of the South Wall Lighthouse
I notice that the non brick clad walls are to be rendered and painted cream.
Another one to add to the list of Dublins “could have been nice” buildings.I find it hard to have sympathy for the commuters in these areas when I hear the local TDs on the radio. 🙁
I tend to think that the people that buy miles away from their jobs and social life know what they are doing. They get a larger, privately owned house than they would for the same budget in Dublin. But they then expect the state to spend a fortune on putting in a motorway so that they can drive daily to work. As if it’s an entitlement. This cost is not just hitting everyone on the island in the pocket, but is now robbing us of our cultural heritage too. I for one do not want to have to pay this price for them.
If I can abuse the idea of a “machine for living” – most homes are less that ideal in this regard. Trying to buy a home is a compromise from start to finish on location, size, standard etc. This compromise ends in a less than perfect living solution.
– The large but badly located dublin centered family commuter house out in louth is a faulty machine. The cost of “fixing” this fault is being addressed (however ineffectively) by building motorways at huge cost to us all. 😮
– If you look at the other end of the problem – a very small property near city center but unable to cater for a growing family would be the other type of faulty macine. Fixing this one gets less media coverage. You will get very little sympathy from anyone if you want to extend, and you certaintly wont get the rest of the country chipping in towards the cost. 😉This building (the lighthouse 😮 ) is looking very well at the moment. Unfortunately they seem to be planning on cladding the whole thing in poxy redbrick. 😡 Shame!
Paul – have you any photos that would support your case that the advertising “added in a positive way to the street landscape”?
Also what happens to the material after it is used – is it biodegradable?
Anyone remember the Wallace anti-war shroud “advertising”? Didn’t that make a nice change from Vodaphone and Burgerking!
I tend to be opposed to any further imposition of advertising into my environment. But I guess I’m just a crank. One thing to watch out for is that planning permission is normally needed for this type of thing, (but you can often bury it in the original planning app. Down around “all associated signage” might do it).
@A-ha wrote:
tut tut tut, where did eircom go so wrong?
Could be by going public and selling off any salable assets they had and reducing long term spending in an effort to try and maintain a high share price. The dopes. We went from having one of the better networks in Europe (which was built with my taxes), to the current mess where it seems any value has been stripped and passed into the hands of the shareholders. No wonder they’ve such a highly motivated workforce!
