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  • in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732567
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    🙁 After the recent, refusal for Lidl GmbH to construct new storesat Churchfield and Ballincollig in Cork, Aldi’s proposed store at Fitz’s Boreen in Blackpool, Cork comes as a further blow to the discount food merchants in the city. Aldi also had a refusal of a store in Ballincollig recently. There is clearly a ‘un-right’ in all of this that must be addressed. Aldi await the decision for the proposed mixed used 48-apartment, retail centre, creche, play facility and discount food store at Tory Top Road in Cork meanwhile.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732566
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    🙁 On an inspection today of both John Mannix’s 7-storey retail/office and residential development for 41-44 Washington Street (designed by Dermot Coveney of Coveney & Assoc.) I have to say, it is certainly curious. The design is initially unappealling. It resembles close to nothing on the street with a blend of dark, steely green, red, blue and white colourings. A huge 3 storey, rectangular bay window graces the highly prominent corner, from street level up, and the 5th and 6th floors are stepped back. Although I must say, the more one looks at the design, the more it grows on you. It has an arrogant beauty about it and is unashamedly loud. With the exception of the boxy roof (distasteful), one starts to think, this could be what Cork – and more notably, Washington Street, needs, a loud and proud design. In context, the corner bay windows would light up the street and give it a modern edge, but I really wish something would be done to amend the roof.

    By contrast, where the previous Rockfell proposal for Cornmarket Street had a sense of class and post-modern, symmetrical grace to it (designed by Frank Ennis & Assoc), the current proposal (though 6 storeys, is not short off the prev. proposal height of 9-storeys), the new proposal is a modern monstrosity of epic proportions, it is also, oddly, designed by Niall Coffey of Frank Ennis & Assoc. It is strange to think how such a monster could come from the same house as the previous classic. Though I support the development, Cork is truly getting a lesser option in comparison to the original. It is essentially a left-over and I rue the day ABP refused the original proposal. It is a true shame in the context of what is to come.



    Meanwhile, O’Callaghan Properties lodged their application (under the name Riga Ltd) for planning on the site of the Jurys Hotel along the Western Road. A correction to media reports, the apartment element ranges between 6 – 9 storeys high. And there will be 303 apartments and a 182 bedroom hotel. At least this 9-storey apartment building has an element of design to it, versus Victoria Hall. For design of the 160m euro project, see previous post.



    Finally, for those who requested images of the Grand Parade Plaza, retail and residential development by Frinailla. Here are 2. The first is the Grand Parade elevation, the second is the prespective from South Main Street. Design is by Richard Rainey & Assoc. Contractors are John Paul Construction.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732565
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    🙂 Cork’s popular arthouse cinema, the Kino, has applied for permission to demolish its existing cinema on Washington Street and construct 3 new cinemas on seperate upper-storeys each and with a ground-floor restaurant. All the cinemas’ surrounding lanes will be adjusted to cater for this development. Architects are Dennehy + Dennehy.



    🙂 J.D. Hotels Ltd. have lodged an application to develop a 4 – 5 storey restaurant and bar w/ ancillary offices complex at 77/78 Grand Parade and 1 – 9 Tobin Street. The project will see the demolition of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 & 9 Tobin Street, demolition of 78 Grand Parade and retention/refurbishment of 78 Grand Parade – which will be incorporated into the new building.



    :confused: For anyone interested in Sean Meehan’s parking and commercial development at Grenville Place, near the Mercy Hospital – believe it or not, the plan includes the construction of a vehicular access bridge off the Grenville Place Quay, which will then loop back into the quay wall into the development which is planned to be constructed 3-levels under the ground and river. Commercial units will also be part of the project composition. More on this development as soon as it is clarified by the developer. I will update accordingly.



    😡 And yes satanta – Victoria Mills is no pretty picture.


    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732563
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    I obtained a set of CG images from both the developer, O’Callaghan Properties, and the project architect, Finghin Curraoin of Henry J. Lyons & Associates – but they are currently in a format I’m having trouble converting. So in the meantime, here is a press image of the 160m euro Jury’s Hotel site redevelopment on the Western Road/Lancaster Quay – which will consist of a 4-star 185 bedroom hotel with over 10,000sq ft conference facilities and leisure facilities, a public amenity plaza, riverside boardwalk, 300 luxury 1, 2 & 3-bedroom apartments, 2 new bridges (1 pedestrian, 1 vehicular) and 450 undergound car-parking spaces. Contractors will be Bowen Construction, and planning pending, the project is set to go for Spring 2005 with a Summer 2006 completion date.

    The design is tasteful, but nothing remarkable. It shows a continued trend with O’Callaghan Properties of late to work toward more tastefully designed projects. Though I still feel a little anxious about the residential element of the development, the design and application have allayed some of this anxiety.



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    :rolleyes:ABP have granted permission following appeal for 2 student accomodation developments at Victoria Cross.

    The 1st is Paul Montgomery/Edmund Kenneally’s extension of their 59 apartment, 9-storey Victoria Hall designed by Derek Tynan and being constructed by the Bowen Group. The extension will create 60 additional bed spaces to the near complete main development – seeing the demolition of the existing petrol station and construction of a 4-storey over basement car-park building with ground floor commercial unit. (see previous posts)

    The 2nd is a student development designed by Bertie Pope and Associates and being developed by Fleming Construction on behalf of UCC. Permission was granted for the demolition of existing warehouses on site and the construction of 60 no. student apartments in five/six storey blocks consisting of 3/ 4 & 5 study bedrooms per apartments to accommodate 255 students,
    62 no. car parking spaces at basement level, Wardens Apartment, Management Suite containing Reception, Seminar Room and Offices, 200sq.m. café/shop & 3 no. Commercial/Retail units 200sq.m. in total, laundry and other ancillary facilities and full site development at the former M & P Cash & Carry premises on Victoria Road, Cork.

    Just nearby, Rathmelton Investments were set to begin on a colossal student project, in addition to the 82-bedroom and offices extension of their Kingsley Hotel, with 116 student apartments in a series of 5-storey interlinked blocks and a dual basement car-park with 740 spaces. Design is by Murray O’Laoire (see previous post) – it is believed now however that this student element will not proceed.


    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732560
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    Further to previous reports, Sean Meehan, a private developer, has applied for Outline Permission on the development of a 3-level multi-storey car-park, commercial units, vehicular bridge access and ancillary facilities at Grenville Place – a very prominent, river-side location at the western end of Bachelors Quay, beside the Mercy University Hospital – who have been given the go ahead for a new A&E department. It will be interesting to see how this permission turns out considering the location. The architect is John Paul Lennon.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732559
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    A planning application for the Jury’s Hotel Site is expected to be lodged with CCC by the end of this week/early next week. I will provide a more accurate outline of the project when possible, will some images I intend to obtain. Bowen Group will provide construction, which, planning pending, is scheduled for Spring 2005. With first phase residential and hotel completion ready by Summer 2006. Est. value = 160m euros. I’ll announce the architects for this project a.s.a.p.

    Although the hotel and parking elements of this project are favourable, I remain mildly sceptical about the residential element of this project. Usually I get a lot more excited on these things, but something is just not sitting right with me about this. Hopefully this will be rectified on closer inspection.



    *UPDATES*

    🙂 Howard Holdings have been granted planning permission for the addition of a further floor on their City Quarter office development currently under construction at Lapps Quay.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732553
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    Yeah, this is an accurate report – but it wasn’t supposed to be officially made until Wednesday. Nonetheless, as it is out now, you may as well know, Jury’s 4-acre hotel site was sold to O’Callaghan Properties for 30m euros almost 2 months ago. It is the company’s intention over the next 2 years (planning pending) to redevelop the site with a 185 bed hotel and conference centre, 300 apartments, 450 underground car parking spaces, and various ancillary services. Jury’s will lease back the new 4-star hotel over a 35 year lease agreement with an expected rent of over 2.1m a year. Though I was aware that this deal and development had taken place over the original plan (see previous posts), the loss of 250 jobs over the developments 2 year period is news to me. It had been my understanding that Jury’s intended to offer temporary posts to staff at other locations throughout the country or offer extended paid leave over successive periods. However, though it is always unpleasant to see job losses, if any consolation is to be taken by staff, it should be taken in the fact that a number of large scale hotel developments are now coming to fruition throughout the city and hotel service employment will be freely available – with the Hilton Hotel at Mahon Point, Clarion on Lapps Quay, Radisson Park Manor at Little Island, Marriott (rumoured) at Ballincollig Town Centre, Oriel also in Ballincollig, extended Maryborough House Hotel, and new 50m euro extension to the Kingsley Hotel at Victoria Cross. In addition, the new Jurys will create 300 new jobs (with 600+ more jobs created during construction of the new development which will be undertaken by Bowen Construction).



    Further to corkdood’s questions, O’Flynn Constrution have secured a tenant for their new hotel. The name will be released soon (although I may have just leaked it in the report above – clumsy! But remember, it is only a rumour I have heard. Other likely candidates are Lynch Hotels and O’Donoghue/Ring).

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732547
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    *UPDATES*

    These are images of the Phillisview Properties Ltd development at Washington Street West (at the corner of Sharman Crawford Bridge) overlooking the Lee. This small but pretty project incorporates 9 two-bedroom apartments and 2 retail/office units at ground floor. The design is by Curtin McGuinness and Grean (CMG) Architects, with Ridge Developments as the main contractor. I genuinely like this very pleasant project.



    Another design by CMG (HMG) Architects in Cork is that of the new development at George’s Quay by CNM Developments. The project, due for completion mid to late September, has been named Trinity Court and it incorporates 64 apartments, offices and a public house. Fleming Construction are main contractors.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732546
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    I do accept your point – I can remember a time when traversing Bachelor’s Walk was almost humiliating. It’s nice to see it move up and the boardwalk helps it no end. Street-scapes should open up as a positive public space and embrace pedestrian life and all its facets with a pleasant and comfortable environment.

    I completely agree also that Cork needs to utilise its quays a great deal more. There is so much more potential for it. However, I do think that’s the idea with more and more projects like 21 Lavitts Quay, Albert Quay Office Development and new Irish Examiner HQ. The good news is, there are many more plans for the Cork quays in the near future which I’ll post info on as soon as I’m permitted to. MQ is a very negatively shaped and designed construct indeed. It is currently undergoing a 7m euro refurbishment, but few of this contributes toward improving the Northern, Western and Eastern elevations. This is quite a shame because a little imagination could work wonders for the building. Positively however, the Bus Station is being redeveloped, with Ridge Developments currently on-site. Patrick’s Quay (opposite MQ), with the exception of the Metropole Multi-Storey, has seen little development of late, which is a great shame. But I am informed of a plan involving a major institution on MacCurtain Street which is at preplanning. The project will stem back onto Patrick’s Quay with a strong emphasis on the river and natural light – it will incorporate a new late-night lounge bar & restaurant overlooking the Lee from an elevatd position, extended seating, private venue room, quay-side retail units, offices and possibly a nightclub (but I assume this will be incorporated into the Lounge Bar). The project is being privately funded and will provide a new face for Patrick’s Quay. I’ve made no formal update for this as there are no formal plans or announcements – predominantly speculation in development circles. More on that as I get it.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732544
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    Posted by asdasd

    Sorry to hear about Sir Henry’s. I was in Cork for the first time in about 5 years some weeks ago, and did not notice a huge amount of different development – compared to Dublin – with the exception of Patrick Street which was then not finished, and had some construction work to be done. No cranes dotted the city. I did see the new building at UCC, the student’s uniion I think. ( i was in Cork for a day only, so I have have missed stuff)

    First of all, I personally was glad to see Henrys’ removal. Besides the appalling structural maintainence of the premises, poor management and nurture of a large proportion of the Cork rave drug scene – the nightclub was more legend than substance. Were the nightclub as great as its so called ‘die-hard’ fans claim – they would never have abandoned the club in light of its increasingly dilapidated premises, failure to modernize, contemporize and poor strategic handling evident in its organisation. The moaners and pallbearers who claim the club’s nirvanic past have more exaggerated nostalgia than clear cut memories. The fact is the club and Grand Parade Hotel had to abandon its operations due to poor fiscal return down to declining customer base. So, if the club was so great, it’s longing fans would have remained rigidly loyal in the first place. Their actions are the result of realisation with respect to a poor premises and longing for something better. The club’s closure is a direct reflection of this and it’s failure to adapt.

    Second, clearly asdasd you failed to look to far around you on your visit. That said, on my regular commutes to Dublin from Cork, I would fail to recognise many significant changes to the Dublin landscape bar say O’Connell Street or George’s Quay but for the fact I am already familiar with the Dublin landscape. The only other eye opener would be the presence of a tower crane for example. Similar, in Cork, the change is most prevailent with its dwellers who are clearly familiar with its landscape and more aware of what was, is and will be. However some changes are hard not to recognise – City Quarter for example, 21 Lavitts Quay, Blackpool Retail Centre and Park etc. And if you visited UCC, how could you fail to notice mammoth changes like the new Glucksman Gallery? Biosciences Building? Medical Building? Student Plaza???

    Reading this thread, it seems there is a lot of development to come. I am wondering, however, if this is not all a bit late in the day? The property boom cannot continue forever;property prices may crash and will certainly level, what then of the massive development planned for Cork?

    Unlike places like Dublin, Cork missed the main property wave – and is now riding it on it’s own terms. This is unique. The reason being that Cork has historically lacked the same investment evident in other Irish cities – this has created a huge backlog in demand. The reason Patrick’s Street rents equal those of Grafton Street (see Mango, Monsoon, Clinton Cards, TJS, River Island, Vero Moda etc) and the average Cork city centre private car parking space = 65000euro versus Dublin’s average of 45000euro is because demand has far exceeded supply. Developers first off the mark can take advantage of this demand before its caught up by supply. Remember, Cork’s metropolitan area homes 450,000 people and serves an additional 150,000. Were investment, sometimes in frustration with the lak of supply, traditionally went elsewhere, not all such investment is lured away for long due to the temptation of exploiting such huge market potential. With a current 3.1billion euros in private investment finding its way to Cork, a further 2.7billion euros at planning and much more on the way, supply is slowly freeing up to meet this demand.

    And why does Cork need all this retail and office development now, when there was no need for it at the height of the boom years? Is there really the increases in population we have seen in Dublin – most migration – internal within Ireland and external into Ireland – is to Dublin.

    As mentioned above, the historical lack of open-plan retail space has created a huge backlog in demand. The massive market potential has been realised at a national and international level – this may be verified by the fact that, for example, Debenhams chose to locate their 2nd Irish store in Cork over an additional store in Dublin. And why both B&Q and Zara signed papers for Cork locations before further deals were struck for increased store numbers in Dublin. The lack of retail space is gradually being rectified but there is still a massive demand for further retail space in the city centre. Remember, the city acts to serve up 550,000 people. The 2nd largest concentration in the country.
    The same rules apply to office space. The new supply has helped the Cork office take-up of 3rd generation facilities out-perform that of any other Irish city. In fact, as of Feb 2005 (the end of tax designation for IFSC), at least 3 companies in the IFSC and surrounding areas have quietly signed papers to open options on transferring their Irish operations to the Cork city region – most notably the Docklands area. This is attributable to the more affordable social, operational and economic costs in Cork of running these businesses.

    And why does Cork need all this retail and office development now, when there was no need for it at the height of the boom years? Is there really the increases in population we have seen in Dublin – most migration – internal within Ireland and external into Ireland – is to Dublin.

    Cork needs this development to cater to the demand back-log – its not so much that Cork ‘needs’ it, which it does, but more down to the fact that there is a huge market demand in the city from years of investment lack, and now developers are taking advantage of that. As mentioned, Cork has outperformed all other Irish cities in its take-up of 3rd generation offices over the past 12 months and this looks set to continue in light of a continuing demand locally and nationally. Especially as Dublin becomes increasingly expensive to operate within – undoubtedly a partial factor. Furthermore, the vast majority of population increases within the Pale Region have not been within Dublin but in fact it’s hinterland, such as Meath, Wicklow, Louth and Kildare. In fact, their has been outward migration from Dublin – though I acknowledge the fact that it is Dublin which is loci to these migrants’ activities. Though, due to lack of development, Cork city centre’s population declined – its hinterland population increased exponentially. The lack of supply made city centre living exceptionally expensive in Cork. Numerous new developments are helping see the in-flow of new residents back into the city centre once again, however metropolitan development and population growth remains strong at 10% p.a. growth. However, the development in Cork is more to do with demand rather than population. I believe you are forgetting the simple laws of economics.

    Lastly, as an individual with a strong personal and investment attachment to Dublin I can say with a clear conscience, that their is an unforgivable arrogance among many Dubliners that their Earth sees the Sun revolve around them. I highly resent that. Remember 39% of our GNP may be attributable to Dublin based economic activities, but 61% comes from the rest of the country. Considering Dublin’s population and administritive prowess, that is a huge figure and shows a huge dependence on the rest of the country’s economic well being. I think that is too often forgotten. My interest in Dublin is important to me, but as many developers like Howard Holdings, O’Flynn Construction, O’Callaghan Properties, Treasury Holdings and so on will tell you, their success in Cork for example has shown that the real smarts don’t follow the fattest rat. They follow the golden one. With returns nationally reaching an average of 40% versus Dublin’s ever declining marginal return average of 27% – I’d stick with the gold.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732541
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    🙂 A new Bowen Construction tower crane has been erected today over the No.6 Lapps Quay office development site. Construction has been sub-contracted to Bowen by O’Flynn Construction who will concentrate their construction resources primarily at the Ballincollig Town Centre site. The new crane adds another progressive puncture to Cork’s already dotted skyline and hearlds the beginning of primary construction on the No.6 Lapps Quay project.

    🙂 Howard Holdings have erected a large advertising banner on the river-side, southern elevation of their City Quarter office development. The sign reads “60,000sq ft to Let/for Sale”. Though this sign does not mean all that such space is available (and I am informed many deals have already been struck for the development tenancy), even if it did, it still means well over 1/2 of the entire development has been let or sold already. However the addition of a further office floor shows that Howard Holdings are already responding to the demand displayed for the project.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732540
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    Yeah Craig, Wilson Architecture. (I just edited that in up above – forgot it earlier.)



    *UPDATES*

    UCC are to apply to construct a new 7m euro National Microtechnology Research Centre.



    In addition ->

    Here’s an image of the new ERI building, currently under construction along the Lee Road. It’s not the best, so I’ll have more up in the future if possible.

    Anyone further interested in the Boole Library extension may find this link insightful -> http://www.sconul.ac.uk/pubs_stats/newsletter/30/5.RTF

    in reply to: Beamish’s contempt for Cork #745098
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    Frinailla Developments are constructing 50 new luxury 2-bedroom apartments with 2 roof-top penthouses in a 7-storey over basement car-park mixed use development which will incorporate a retail centre – it is designed by Richard Rainey and Assoc. of Kinsale and constructed by John Paul Construction. Historical excavations are currently ongoing. Nearly all elements of this project (apartments, retail units and the famous 70-90 underground car-parking spaces (which ALL sold for 80,000 euros)) have been sale agreed or sold.

    Next door, on the current South Main Street Citi Car-Park, Kenny Developments are to develop a 7-storey over part basement mixed use development with offices, multi-storey car-park, retail outlets, residential units and a 22-bedroom hotel with cantivelered boardwalk. Designed by RKD McCarthy Architects. No construction date has been designated as of yet. Permission for the project was granted on appeal to ABP. A recent amendment to the project to incorporate 64 student apartments was withdrawn.



    Though I agree that the Beamish premises is in need of refurbishment, I dispute the phrase ‘contempt for Cork’. Despite amazing financial pressure to relocate, Beamish have displayed a resilience rarely seen these days (which some economically minded may regard as ‘foolish’) in refusing to leave its Cork home – saving numerous jobs at this location. In addition, the brewery has in the past been approached by private developers interested in purchasing land assets currently in possession of the brewery. Most notably on the Wandesford Quay elevation. Though I agree that the main facade of the building on South Main Street is in need of a decent paint job, their premises in need of refurbishment, and the maintainence of the Oval Bar is inexcusable – I don’t agree with the word ‘contempt’ simply based on architectural grounds.

    I believe, Beamish need to be approached in a positive, encouraging manner by CCC and asked to make substantial adjustments and improvements to their premises. In addition, Beamish could benefit themselves from refurbishment and thus offer tourist based Brewery Tours. They could offer elements of their premises up for private development sale too as a means of attaining capital and contributing to the much needed redevelopment of their site.


    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732538
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    The value of the Cork Main Drainage Scheme is actually in excess of 100m euro. The stench eminated from raw waste being dumped into the Lee, this, as of from the end of this month will now all be treated by the 20m euro Sewerage Treatment Plant on Little Island – as well as certain explusions from harbour region industrial plants. This will bring the Lee to EU bathing standards. Any remaining dirt in the Lee is now ‘simply’ related to inconsiderate and careless individuals, river bed movement, upper stream contamination (which will now be service by a new treatment facility near the Shornaugh River mouth before it enters the city) and shopping trolleys it would seem.



    UCC have applied for a 5579m sq Boole Library extension to the southern elevation. The 5-storey extension will utilise the old quarry site at this elevation (currently a student recreation point and theatre entrance). The library will in the majority be designated for Postgraduate use. The main library will undergo an extensive refurbishment and modernisation in-line with the new building. The project, currently in planning, will cost an estimate 33.5m euros. The architects behind the development are Wilson Architecture of Cook Street, Cork.


    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732530
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    Howard Holdings have proposed to develop a 15m – 20m euro IT/Office building, 5-stories over basement on Albert Quay. They’ve no project planned for Alfred Street (by the Railway Station) that I am aware of. The Albert Quay office building is being constructed on a site, directly across the river from their City Quarter development, and will incorporate Albert House (the Parking Fines building).

    UCC have hired Cumnor Construction to refurbish their buildings at the Lee Maltings (a process in mid-swing). Work on their new 20m euro School of Pharmacy on College Road has begun, with initial clearing taking place currently. Pierse Construction begin primary work at the end of August, early September.

    On the Lee Road, UCC have hired Sisk Construction to build the new Environmental Research Institute. Designed by Bucholz McAvoy Architects. The 3-storey, “environmentally friendly” building is at an advance stage, as anyone passing the extensive construction site and tower crane will tell you. The site was donated by CCC.

    Work on a 62m euro UCC IT and Computer Centre at the former Greyhound Track on the Western Road is scheduled to begin at a preparitive stage come late 2005, depending on planning.

    The houses across the way from the Greyhound Track on the Western Road are mostly in private ownership, there is no real story with them. However the 6 terraced houses at Carmelite Place, which are currently boardered up, were scheduled to be demolished as part of a 4-storey over basement car-park development for 20 student apartments, however planning for this project was refused on grounds of scale and inappropriate use.

    No.6 Lapps Quay, along with No.5, City Quarter, the dismal but nonetheless refurbishment Bus Station, the Albert Quay office development, O’Flynn Construction’s major retail/residential development at Eglinton Street, 32m euro City Hall Extension, 60m Cork School of Music, Corbett Bros. Office Development at Copley Street, Howard Holdings’ Copley Hall, the South Infirmary’s new Breast Check Clinic at South Terrace and a number of other major development and rejuvenation projects are really gonna make this area of the city exceptionally attractive now and in the near future. Especially considering, all the above projects lay at the mouth of the new docklands development.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732528
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    Yes, the former mill to the rear of the Bank of Ireland, on Father Matthew Quay, has been purchased by Tumblegate Ltd. They also own the famour Jacobs On The Mall restaurant along South Mall. Tumblegate were granted permission for a mized retail, restaurant and residential development through renovation and extension of the existing mill but had been waiting on an amendment to the plan from CCC. They have recently received this permission and Joseph Lane Construction containers can been seen outside the premises ready to start construction. Some internal work is being completed first.



    And I agree, taxis and buses are acting unfairly and aggressively toward pedestrians, who have priority, on both Patrick’s Street and Maylor Street. It is a shame on the authorities for not pursuing the offenders for dangerous driving more vigourously.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732525
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    CCC are advocating the Railway Street/Horgan’s Quay site for a new 6000 seat conference/convention centre – a shortlist of developers is currently being considered. I’ll name them as soon as I receive permission from the respective parties involved.

    O’Callaghan Properties have a clause in their sale agreement to integrate a convention centre into the Mahon Point development – the agreement knocked IR£4.3m off the sale price – which contested against a higher offer by MacDonald Properties of Scotland of IR£50m for the lands. O’Callaghan and McCarthy Developments paid £41m between them for the Mahon lands. Failure to develop the convention centre requires O’Callaghan Properties to return 6m euros to CCC. O’C Properties are stalling on this one a bit, for internal reasons rather than viability, this is causing some frustration and CCC are anxious to move forward with Railway Street. I’ll be interested to see how involved CIE get in this project – it will be a reflection of their commitment to continuing with Horgan’s Quay.



    Sisk Contractors have been chosen to construct the new Cork School of Music – with an initiation date of September. Although, I had reported this start date in a previous post, there had been some confusion in light of the financial problems experienced by PPP partners Jarvis Plc. It was expected at one point not to begin until Summer 2005, however now, it seems, the Dept. of Education and Jarvis are now both confident in proceeding with the project and will break ground this September. Some minor work has already commenced on the existing school (to face demolition), formal contracts are expected to be signed later this week.

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732518
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    *UPDATES*

    -> Aldi Stores (Ireland) Developments Ltd have lodged a planning application with Cork City Council (CCC) for the demolition of the existing structures on site at Heiton Buckley premises on Tory Top Rd & the construction of a mixed use development scheme with a total of 2083m2 gross retail floor space, a creche 201m2, play area & 48 no duplex apts. The single storey Aldi Discount Food Store will be complimented by the creche and roof-top play area with the addition of 48 duplexes in six 4-storey blocks. The application represents Aldi’s largest development investment in Ireland so far and represents its plan to fall in line with Council suggestions for increased mixed-use development. This element was previously lacking in many of their other proposals and since has lost both Aldi and Lidl successful planning grants in the past.

    Aldi have also lodged applications for 3 more stores in Cork city, besides this development.



    -> A number of high-profile developments in Cork have reached near ‘SOLD OUT’ status before they’ve even been completed, these include O’Callaghan Properties Office Development at 21 Lavitts Quay, John Hornibrook’s apartment development at Camden Quay (Camden Court) and Fleming Construction’s Trinity Court on George’s Quay.

    However, even more remarkable, Frinailla Developments project on Grand Parade, the Grand Parade Plaza, has sold almost all of its 50 apartments (starting at 390,000 euros each), with 80% of them going to owner-occupiers, and sold ALL of its underground car-parking spaces (between 70 and 90) at a price-tag of 80,000 euros each. A countrywide record. Furthermore, Atis Harrington-Bannon, estate agents for the retail element of the Plaza, have reported that almost all units have been let, sold or reserved already, all this before the project has even begun primary construction! Demolition activities have already taken place and archaelogical excavations are on-going (they seem to be on-going for months! [sigh]). However, John Paul Construction inform me, they intend to get to real work on the site in the next few weeks, possibly 2 weeks.

    The 100m euro City Quarter office development by Howard Holdings on Lapps Quay is currently waiting for a grant of planning by CCC on the addition of another floor to the office element, bringing the building to 6-floors, in line with the Clarion Hotel element next-door. The application has been based on the strong take up and demand for office space within the development. Both Howard Holdings, DTZ Sherry Fitzgearld and Cohalan Downing letting and sale agents for the project are said to be delighted with the response to City Quarter. Howard Holdings intend to make head-way on their Albert Quay office/IT development (just across the river from City Quarter) within the next few weeks.

    Just across Clontarf Street, at No.6 Lapps Quay, O’Flynn Construction are on-going with the development of their new office building, designed by Coughlan de Keyser Architects of Washington Street. Foundations are currently being laid, and primary construction is imminent according to the company. Although Lisney and Hamilton Osbourne King (the designated agents for the project) won’t specify the details of sale and letting agreements; I am aware of at least 3 agreements – and I have been informed that the response has been as enthusiastic as that experienced with O’Flynn’s neighbouring office development, No.5 Lapps Quay. It’s an exceptionally positive and encouraging indicator of the Cork office market, which is continuing to buck the national trend. It is a further testament to the fact, the reason many firms and businesses have located to the suburbs and other regions in the past, rather than Cork city centre, has been a distinct availability lack of quality 3rd Generation, sufficiently large office space. This lack is gradually being rectified, and subsequently developers are reaping the rewards of this.

    No.6 Lapps Qy 21 Lavitts Qy

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732516
    lexington
    Participant

    Well first of all CCC didn’t reject the application for the hotel at the Guy & Co site, but it was ABP who made the refusal on a third party appeal by An Taisce and Corporation Housing Residents at the time.

    The original hotel plan include 20 retail units with a combined area similar to that of the new plan, so in terms of higher order retail space, the proposal worked in line with the later revised Development Plan – and due to the variety that came with numerous units, a greater retail pull would have ensued. However, a development is only as good as its tenants. If the new propsal manages to attract the significant tenants it requires, it may still do exceedingly well. Under the plans that I am aware of, this looks so pending the correct outcome. And, that ‘church site’ to the rear of the Guy & Co site is actually part of the development site of which Rockfell have been involved in since 1998.

    It would be highly unlikely that Zara would locate on Cornmarket Street (unless part of a department store concession) as they are opening their first stand alone store in Mahon Point in Feb 2005 (a Cornmarket Street location would depend highly on the success of their Mahon Point store – I’ve a feeling it will do well). Along with Pull and Bear and Mango (their 2nd Cork store). When Arnotts first issued authorised shares for capital, their expansion plans were limited to Dublin, and ever since, they have concentrated on developing their Henry Street premises, the most recent development being their purchase of the former Irish Independent Building. The particular market associated with Heitons or TK Maxx does not comply with Michael O’Donoghue’s intentions for his Cornmarket Street development – I would think along the lines of a more Brown Thomas-type market were a department store the successful outcome. Failing that, stores like Sisley, Espirit and so on, would be targeted for tenancy. At least, that is the plan – but at the end of the day, these retaillers pave the final decision based on their own plans. H&M would be a fabulous addition to the Irish and in particular, Cork market – but their expansion plans have only ever assessed Ireland, and never acted on them.



    I will provide interested party names when they become available to me, for the Carphone Warehouse premises near Merchants Quay. Nearby, Jump Juice Bars have opened their 2nd store at the Savoy Centre. A start-up Irish company, with their other store in Waterford, have also been trying to attain a Mahon Point outlet, but the SC is apparently fully let at this stage. Jump are based on the Zumo Juice Bars model – but instead of franchising, their growth thus far has been entirely organic (no pun intended).

    in reply to: Look at de state of Cork, like! #732514
    lexington
    Participant

    Unfortunately, my spate with technology has ended in a stalemate, and I have been unable to post the images I attained from ABK Architects of the new 32m euro Cork City Hall Extension, contracted to Cleary Doyle.

    As a result, I’ve had to avail of press images (reluctantly) in order to fulfill my promises that I’d get images of the development on site for you as soon as possible. Construction of the extension begins in September.

    Once complete, the extension will stretch from Anglesea Street to Eglinton Street and be capable of facilitating ALL CCC departments. In addition, up to 400 car parking spaces will be catered for at basement and roof levels. A new internal pedestrian street will connect the 2 streets between which the development lies. The entire building is naturally ventilated, and although the design is clever, in my opinion, it is sub-par.



    Plus, this is for those of you who had requested a clearer image of the Mahon Point SC development.

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