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Participant@Lincoln wrote:
i had a look at the waterstreet file in CCC last week- the An Taisce submission was quite surprising- other than a reference to the “Sore Thumb” syndrome it was in support of the scheme in general (except some minor caveats) and even went so far as to say that the design is worthy of the docklands and will be a good demonstration of high density city living!
I give out about them more than anyone – but in fairness to Kevin Hurley, he’s not really oppose to the development as such. He’s had a few chit-chats with Sean Kearns on the project – his collegaue, Tomas O’Scannlain is more likely to appeal than anyone (which I hope he doesn’t), In this instance, I believe the residents are the biggest obstacle. I utterly empathise with logical and reasonable concerns residents raise concerning planning issues – it’s their entitlement as occupiers of an area, but to be fair, the objections regarding Water Street in this case are utterly disappointing and imbalanced. Water Street is a great development which opens up a bright light into the docklands. But you never know, CCC have their awkward ways about them!
lexington
Participant@mickeydocs wrote:
Hi Lex… just wondered if you have any updates on Water St./Eglinton St?
Water Street saw its final submission date last Monday week – 12 submissions were received by CCC. Same number as the previous incarnation of the development. Not all however are objections. Of course An Taisce are in there also – but the general drift of the objections are height, over-development, devaluation of property etc. One submission is an indenticate of the submission handed in to CCC from the last Water Street submission (referencing the 400 apartments and all!) Goes to show you the level of attention people pay to projects like these before objecting. A farse! Early indications suggest planners are pleased with the changes but will undoubtedly still find a picking point.
Eglinton Street – may get a move back on track with the next 2 weeks. O’Flynn Construction (OFC) have held meetings with Joe Gavin (City Manager), the Director of Planning (Mr. O’D) and Senior Planner. The talks have apparently been constructive. Expect some alterations to be made concerning the prime disputing ground – basement car-parking.
@mickeydocs wrote:
Does anyone know the time frame for Jacob’s Mill? Are they still considering a food hall?
I had heard they were inviting people to approach them in relation to running food counters on site, if so does anyone have any contact details (more gastronomical than architectural of course).:)This has been an ongoing source of confusion. Tom McCarthy had this placed earmarked for redevelopment with Joseph Lane and Sons Ltd as main contractors for late last year. Then there was a change of contractor to O’Flynn of Banteer (also working on Mr. McCarthy’s Kingsley Hotel extension) – with progress promised for early Jan 2005. Then Joe Gavin publicly announced that he’d received word scaffolding would be erected by mid to late Jan 2005. But besides a little movement within the Mill, nothing has happened properly yet. MOLA are architects for the project.
@mickeydocs wrote:
What’s your opinion on the refurbished courthouse… was it worth the incredibly long wait?
Over-run and over-priced I suppose – but then again Ascon had their work cut out for them too. I’m really just glad its done and in fairness, the Court House looks great. Especially by night.
@mickeydocs wrote:
Will the Mannix development on Washington Street be going ahead this year??
Currently, Mr. Mannix has seen his project brought to appeal. A decision is due for May. It would be a grossly unfair twist were the project, after so many changes and alterations to allay CCC concerns, to be refused on appeal. The street and site are in need of an improvement to fill that unsightly gap in the streetscape. The design is a departure yes, (Dermot Coveney & Associates of Monkstown), but it’s an interesting departure. I’m glad the unsightly box-like, roof-top apartments were removed – there is a great sense of coherency to the street scape now. But the appeal may all change that! ๐ Whether or not this project gets the go-ahead will all depend on the appeal outcome.
@mickeydocs wrote:
What is being developed on the site of Doyles on Grand Parade?
JD Hotels (of the East Douglas Village Hotel) are redeveloping a new Manhattan-style bar/restaurant and ancilllary offices over 4-floors at this location. Wilson Architecture are responsible for the design. It was also offer a new ‘Gateway’ entrance to Tobin Lane.
I see Viva Cork are awaiting a decision on whether U2 will or will not play Cork in August? If they are, front row centre!!!lexington
Participant๐ Cumnor Construction have seen the appeal lodged against their 22-unit apartment development for Sunday’s Well, designed by Jack Coughlan Associates, withdrawn. A private deal was struck, of which the details are as yet unclear, between the developers and resident Brian O’Sullivan (I believe it was concerning property claims – though I’m open for correction). Cumnor made notable rearrangements to their development at CCC level in order to appease concerns, nonetheless, an appeal was brought against them in early March. Its good to see that a compromise has been worked out. Construction is set for early Summer.
๐ John Cleary Developments have submitted a newly revised plan for their lands adjoining Kilnap’s North Point Business Park near Blackpool. Earlier this year JCD where refused planning by CCC for 17 light industrial units which, if had been granted, were earmarked to create 300 new jobs in the North Cork Area. JCD have gone back to the drawing board with engineers Niall Fitzsimons Ltd rather than appeal (a sensible move in my opinion) and now have presented CCC with a revised application – still incorporating 17 light industrial units, only this time, they comprise part of a new building measuring some 47,000sq ft +. The revisions should hopefully allay concerns raised by CCC, which ultimately led to the project’s refusal, related to negative skyline disruption, poor access, traffic management etc. The new plan still aims to create a similar, if not, equal number of new jobs for Blackpool and the surrounding areas of North Cork.
๐ Aras Developments have begun work on its Victoria Station student accommodation development of 24 apartments, medical units and parking at the former Canty Family owned site along the Wilton Road. It will be constructed around the same time-frame as 2 other student developments nearby at the former M&P O’Sullivan site (being developed by Fleming Construction on behalf of UCC), and Phase 2 of Paul Montgomery and Edmund Kenneally’s Victoria Mills.– speaking of Montogomery-Kenneally projects, they are awaiting an approval tonight by CCC to joint-purchase a nice area of land along the Boreenmanna Road (Rose Cottage proximity) along with Barry Supple of John F. Supple Contractors. The land could net approx. 7m euros for CCC and will be developed under the condition that 40 or so of the 150+ units planned for the site are handed over to social-affordable use.
I take it you like the Capitol Cineplex plans then rodger ? ๐lexington
Participant@tomthevet2003 wrote:
There is no deal – and no discussions i have heard
Well I did say ‘apparently’ ]Good morning I was just wondering if any one had seen propsals for the Capitol cinema I think you would all agree that this is the most high profile junction in the city.Lets hope they spend a few quid.[/QUOTE]
An image of the Mount Kennett proposal is posted (I think) 2 pages back in thumbnail form. The project is valued at 30m euro and is designed by Sabine Wittman of Dungarvan practice, The e-Project. I wouldn’t be getting too excited. I’ll have more info on that particular development later this week.
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ParticipantI agree – HowardHoldings really did go all out on City Quarter. Would you believe that in original talks CCC wanted to maintain a motor-accessible quay front??? So in fairness the Howard, they really did pick the penny on this one. As Greg Coughlan said, there is the general perception that all developers are simply ‘here to destroy what is there and leave with a profit at a community’s expense’. Yes it is important to profit, if there is no profit, there is no project in the first place – but City Quarter is a good and leading example of how a development can benefit not only a community, but a city. It’s an example adopted now by Werdna at Water Street and even OCP with the Jurys redevelopment – as they are providing a public amenity space and riverside walk/boardwalk along their Lancaster Quay/Washington Street West waterfront. I like the pedestrian friendly element to the City Quarter quayside – and agree similar initiatives should be encouraged.
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Participant๐ Fleming Construction have begun development of 203 bedspaces of student accommodation over 45 apartments in a series of 4 to 5 storey blocks. The project is to be located on the former M&P O’Sullivan Warehousing site at Victoria Cross, right beside Phase 2 of Victoria Mills (also beginning development). The development is being undertaken by Fleming Construction on behalf of UCC. The deconstruction and removal of the existing warehouses has revealed a surprisingly large site. The project was designed by Bertie Pope & Associates. Issues regarding the proposals finish were raised in planning but have apparently been rectified to an acceptable standard.
lexington
Participant@rodger wrote:
Could not agree more, this development will get the creative juices of desiginers going not to mention fueling the egos of our developers this is progress
Regarding what? Eglinton Street? :confused:
@charlie’s angel wrote:The apartment scheme in Glanmire was contemporary, looked good on paper, sure the detail would be lost in construction and would end up lookIng like concrete bunker knowing frinailla’s history
The scheme was too dense on such a prominent and steep site.๐ฎ I think you may have the 2 schemes mixed-up, Frinailla were refused a scheme in the Church Hill/Poulacarry area of Glanmire for 105 houses and 16 service sites (121) over approx. 31 acres – low density scheme. The apartment scheme is at Springmount, across the road from Hazelwood on a steep sloping, narrow site. That application is due on the 18th April 2005. Details and images of that, the Springmount project, can be found at -> http://www.frinailla.ie/residential_4.php?id=4 The jury is still out on the design.
Also, check out the dedicated page for Frinailla’s Dennehy’s Cross development at -> http://www.frinailla.ie/residential_4.php?id=7 The design isn’t public yet, but it’s an interesting aerial shot. Grianbru can be seen in the image – the site of Walsh Consulting’s 22-apartment development, in appeal.
@Pana01 wrote:And (here I go again), will they ever remove that vile Portakabin??
Funny you should mention that – though it seems to be your pet hate (understatement???) :p You may remember me posting that CIE and CCC were intending to install a new permanent facility along Patrick’s Street – befitting of the new streetscape – well I also posted there was some sort of hold-up, turns out that hold-up was in part due to the proposal to bring back the old green-hut (once located beside Father Matthew Statue) – I can’t remember what they called that, was it the Station Master’s Hut or something? I haven’t really being keeping an eye on the whole scenario so I don’t know how firm a proposal that is. But it is widely agreed, except probably CIE, that the Portacabin has to go.
@Pana01 wrote:
They also hightlighted the ‘farce’ of the roadworks between Grand Parade and Pana – will it ever be sorted?
McGinty & O’Shea are the main contractors on that project. Yes it is on-going or rather, long-going, but I believe it is related to structural issues regarding the old city sewers/waterways. E.G. Pettit & Co. are the Structural Engineers involved. But whether or not this helps you sigh relief, here’s a image of what Grand Parade should eventually look like when all the works are complete (below). Once again, Beth Gali Studio are responsible for the streets new design.
lexington
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
So when are you expecting a decision?
It will depend on when the ‘Clarification’ requested by CCC is satisfactorily met by OFC and Wilson Architecture. I believe this will be provided within the next 2 weeks, but don’t quote me on that time-frame, as that is simply based on the collected information I received. Fingers crossed anyway!
lexington
ParticipantAfter pressing a prominent CCC member last night, I managed to juice out a comment regarding O’Flynn Construction’s Eglinton Street development. He implied that talks between the developers and Planners and the City Manager’s office had been ‘positive’. But just to make sure, someone closely attached to the project, this morning informed me also, that the meetings held between CCC and OFC had been ‘constructive’. Wilson Architecture (design team behind the project – Chief Architect being Frank O’Mahony, the firm’s MD) are in conjunction with the developers and in consultation with CCC in addressing a number of ‘deadlocking’ issues. These issues concern in the most part the parking space to unit/residence ratio, sunlighting and glazing effects with consideration to the tower element and potential hazards on approaching traffic – among others. A report is due into Navigation House in the coming days re: the latter issue. Parking space numbers at the development are likely to be dropped, but to a renegotiated ratio with which OFC say they can work with.
I assume the unconfirmed, but possible, sale of the Doyle Family Cork Warehousing Co. site on Albert Quay to OFC (if sold to them), may offer a potential solution in rectifying parking numbers come the strategic run – but this cannot be considered at this stage until any sale is announced publicly. However, there are 2 other likely buyers which await confirmation – one of which is stated to be Howard Holdings (if so, this would give them dominance of the waterfront along this stretch of both Albert Quay and Lapps Quay).
It’s all pie-in-the-sky right now – but could be considered a very cautious source of optimism for this outstanding development opportunity in Cork.
lexington
Participant@rodger wrote:
Hello and good evening to one and all this is my 1st post on this very well worded and informed public forum. Frinila seem to be the flavour of the day,has any one noticed the councils refusal for their propsed development 04/5355 in Glanmire their is a bit of a hum off the file.Any comments?
That’s right, their 121-unit development at Church Hill didn’t work out to nice for them. CorkCoCo shot the project down on a number of issues incl. traffic etc. Though they did receive a grant on their Ladyswell project (only just!), they received a a twist of lemon with the permission in that they’ve had to reduce the height, and subsquent units as a result of the conditions. I’ve seen the plans numerously and in detail, and to be honest, I think the logic regarding the reduction in height (again!) is pretty farsical.
@gos24 wrote:Lexington,
On a point of interest if you take a look at the Kerry County Council website http://www.kerrycoco.ie and hit the search planning tab a similar page to that on the Cork City Council website appears, whereby you can enter the name or planning number of the application you wish to look up. However on the Kerry website you can view PDF files of all the drawings, submissions etc on the file and I was just wondering if all the planning authorities will follow suit or is there any obligation to do so? Cheers ๐To be honest with you – I don’t really know. As far as I know its a discretionary preference – but I am familiar with the Kerry CoCo system in that regard (in other regards I’d rather not discuss it! :rolleyes: ) and it is useful and informative. I would like to think a similar system would be made available in Cork as it may, to some, extent, reduce the numbers of publuc misinformation regarding certain developments. So, who knows?! Perhaps Cork City Council will have better answers for you. http://www.corkcity.ie I’m sorry I can’t be of much help on that particular topic.
lexington
Participant๐ John Paul Construction are on site already at Albert House, Albert Quay marking the commencement of the development of the Cork’s first WebWorks by Howard Holdings. The 13m euro project, designed by Scott Tallon Walker, will be constructed on land to the rear of Albert House and connected with the CCC property; units will then be leased out to designated Enterprise Ireland associated start-ups based around IT and Business practices.
More details will be soon available at -> http://www.corkwebworks.com
:confused: Apparently, media reports are suggesting that O’Callaghan Properties are in communicado with Michael O’Donoghue of Rockfell Investments about a partnership related to his Cornmarket Street development which received a grant last year for 65 apartments and up to 170,000sq ft of retail space. This would explain my earlier reports about hearing something re: OCP on a possible retail development at Cornmarket Street. Don’t have any clearer details right now – but I’ll keep you posted. O’Callaghan apparently says that the best deal for all concerned would see a link up with his nearby Paul Street S.C. (???)– on that note, OCP moved into their new 5,000sq ft HQ along the top floors of the 30m euro 21 Lavitts Quay development, designed by Patrick A. Cashman and Associates, & constructed by Bowen Construction. Structural Engineering was provided by Niall Fitzsimons & Associates. 11,000sq ft of office space at the development has also been negotiated for tenancy by a noteworthy semi-state division.
– also regarding OCP’s Academy Street development, OCP have apparently struck a deal with the Reidy-family (owners of Le Cheateau bar) whereby the bar will be retained in its current usage as is, but which will allow OCP utilise its valuable layout to able its Academy Street development further. See previous posts.
An announcement re: Albert Quay warehousing sale is expected either by this week’s end or early next week. Will have to see.
I was lucky enough to have been in attendance at the launch of City Quarter on Lapps Quay last evening – and besides some dodgy weather, the launch was quite a taking event. The development really is first rate and a credit to Howard Holdings – who launched the development in nothing short of panache – from Sushi Stands, a beautiful water-display on a river float, carnival, acrobats and performers, “U2”, “Elvis” and even “James Brown” showed up. Greg Coughlan, Howard Holdings CEO, receive a large round of applause after stating in his speech that “this (City Quarter) must only be the beginning”, he expressed his desire to make Cork “the envy of Europe”, but it needed the infastructure, foresight, co-operation and more new, world-class buildings. It really was pride inspiring stuff and made many, myself included, all that more enthusiastic about the prospects for Cork. On talking to persons afterwards, I am told (as reported) that indeed Howard are assessing a further standout Docklands project – besides Albert House.– Cafe Gusto, a local coffee house enterprise, will set-up a new branch on the City Quarter boardwalk and waterfront. The firm also operates a prime Washington Street location.
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Participant@dowlingm wrote:
Lexington
Would like to see Ford “encouraged” to build a multistorey car park to house their vehicles, preferably somewhere near the ring road – say in Tivoli? – to free up the large tarmac area south of Tedcastles for development.
Well I don’t know about the multi-storey car-park idea – but you can take it that Ford are one step ahead on that site already. ]Lexington,
have Frinailla admitted they are going ahead with that deal?[/QUOTE]That’s the Stephen Rogers report you’re referring to? The plan he outlined in his report has not been solidified – no, not that I’m aware of. On news that that report was made public – the info I had been made aware of, I felt was somewhat in the public domain and thus issued it on the forum,
However, Frinailla will seek to develop a residential proposal for the site not far-off, if not, along the lines already mentioned. Kieran Conway, as I am aware, has said nothing yet – presumably down to the fact that he doesn’t want to formalise something without being 100% that it’s the plan Frinailla can go-ahead with. As best I’m aware, Mr. Rogers based his report on third-party info – correct me if I’m wrong on that. The housing number figure is not based on my info, I have corrected that in the post above for issues of clarity. If I attain more specific details (if at all) I will post them to keep you inform and clear on the issue.
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Participant*UPDATES*
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Expansion hungry Frinailla Developments – controlled by the Conway Family – have purchased the infamous 10-acre site that is the Good Shepherd Convent in Sunday’s Well from PJ Hegarty & Sons Ltd for a figure estimated, but not confirmed, at approx. 20m euros. PJ Hegarty had a number of applications hanging on the site – but due to a number of problematic planning issues, decided against developing the highly valuable site.
Frinailla plans to redevelop the site to include 250 new homes (that figure is not according to my source, but a third-party source), with a number of large, luxurious 2,500sq ft houses as part of the development. These houses will be aimed at the top end of the market. Also as part of the development, the Good Shepherd Convent building, which was ravished by fire last year, will be restored to its former glory – in what will most likely be a number of apartments. The project is being designed by Reddy O’Riordan Staehli Architects and plans to create an exclsuive residential quarter in one of Cork’s most scenic and sought-after districts.
This project represents another large-scale investment by the group over the past number of months. Recently, Frinailla received a greenlight (after successive attempts) at redeveloping their large Watercourse Road (Ladyswell) site in Blackpool – which will see approx. 100 new residential units (after conditions) developed. The Grand Parade Plaza is now scheduled to commence construction after subsurface investigations spanning nearly over 1-year. Late-April is the earmarked date of construction.
Also, Frinailla have begun work on their An Caislean development in Ballincollig, with another 70m euro residential develop on the eastern end of Ballincollig perpartory gear.
Frinailla also recently purchased Dennehy’s Cross Garage and lands for approx. 20m-euro, which is scheduled to see a large-scale (but apparently ‘community friendly’) development of apartments in planning within the coming future. They also purchased a site just down the Wilton Road (a former Plumbing Supplies Centre) which is also scheduled for a formal proposal. And that’s just to name a few!
:p Howard Holdings are certainly lapping (no pun intended) the praise for their Lapps Quay development, City Quarter. The development is officially opened tonight at 6:30pm in a ceremony officiated by Michael Martin, Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment. Greg Coughlan and Frank Gormley are being praised for the expense and chance they displayed on City Quarter, which has paid off with superb effect. Howard Holdings also have another docklands project under review at the moment – however, its certainty is being kept under wraps for the time being. I’ll let you know more when things start becoming a little more official.lexington
Participant๐ก Clayton Love Jnr’s Douglas Central Properties have seen their plans for an 8-storey, 124 bedroom hotel in the heart of Douglas refused planning. The building, designed by the Hyde Partnership, was to have seen the development of the hotel facility on lands between Cinema World and the East Douglas Village – with east-west frontages facing Douglas Court S.C. and Douglas Village S.C. respectively. Mr. Love expressed his disappointment at the decision taken by Cork County Council planners.
Considerations are now under assessment as to whether or not the developer will appeal or revised the proposal and resubmit a fresh application.
Reasons regarding height, spatial issues, overshadowing and overdevelopment were all cited as purposes behind the refusal.
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ParticipantA 1.9 acre site immediately adjacent to the Dunnes Stores anchored and controlled Ballyvolane Shopping Centre (along the North Ring Road) has been purchased for a pricey 4m euros through selling agents DTZ Sherry Fitzgerald. The site had been put on the market by owners AIB (which they bought a few years back for 100,000 euros!) and had seen something of a bidding rivalry between German discounters Aldi (predominantly) and Lidl. Fearing a possible damaging impact from the opening of a Aldi or Lidl store right next to it, Dunnes Stores decided to move in and roll out the big bucks to protects its interests. The site is now being considered as part of an extension to the existing shopping centre which Dunnes hope will allow it secure its dominance in thre region. They also anchor the nearby Blackpool S.C. and will be anchoring 2 huge anchor units at O’Flynn Construction’s Ballincollig Town Centre, scheduled to open in October 2005.
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ParticipantThe image below is taken from a graphic posted by sw101 earlier on up this page – the original graphic outlines the Water Street development area (as shaded in red). I said, however, that I would use the image to outline SOME but not all of the projects proposed in and around the docklands. The good news, this is not the sum of all docklands projects being either investigated, at pre-planning, in planning or under construction – but represents what I can tell you for the time being. I will of course update you when allowed or able to. For the time being, it may provide some of you with an interesting insight.
Though all the above projects are a reality in some shape, I cannot outline the details of all sufficiently due to issues of confidentiality. But here’s what I can –
The YELLOW outline represents the site owned by Tedcastles Ltd – east of Marina Point. One plan for the site proposes a substantial residential development with adjoining parks (private and public), some educational facilities and a number of office spaces. An ‘impression’ of the development was posted a few pages back. However, the usage contravenes Development Plan guidelines, with cites that the southern docklands are the preserve of predominatly commercial activities. The North Docklands will serve residential usage in the main. Tedcastles are currently exploring other options – and may seek to develop the site themselves. An announcement could be due in the near future (as in this year!)
The LIGHT BROWN outline to the very bottom of the image is the site of the former Goldcrop premises and Centre Park House. McCarthy Developments are currently in planning with this nice 100,000sq ft, 8-storey office development. Murray O’Laoire are architects. The development will adjoin Centre Park House (to be refurbished).
The BLUE above the aforementioned site is an 80,000sq ft site purchased late last year for a handsome sum by Cohlan Downing Associates. I can’t specify the details here – but a number of foundation assessments are supposedly earmarked to address subsidence issues. However, the new owner has not been foiled in devising some large-scale plans for the site – and plans to perservere with an application following verification from engineers, or following treatments, at some point in the future. A date has not been earmarked. Designs are on-going. No news may be made public for quite some time.
The RED outlines the famous IAWS controlled site of R&H Hall Weybridge. A number of plans have been devised for the site. Some were formulated back in 1999 – but were dismissed by planners in early talks. New plans will comprise of mixed-usage with commercial (and possibly, just possibly, a fine cultural element to it. This again, is unlikely to be made public for anytime within the immediate future. I can say, at this point in time. I have no real inclination regarding time-frames etc etc – but I’ll find out.
The PURPLE is another hush-hush project, the site is owned by Careys Tool Hire Ltd, who have been quietly buying up the properties surrounding their facility at Albert Quay/Road. The most high-profile purchase being that of the Sextant Public House on the north-western corner. CTH have been assessing development plans with a commercial twist – but again, no timeframe is set clearly. CTH have been eyeing to move their business to a more accessible and spacious premises.
The LIGHT GREEN = the Doyle Family Warehousing premises with which terms were recently agreed on sale. The figure is estimated in and around 7m euros by the press but I’ve heard conflicting statements. The owners will likely make an offer to the adjoining warehouse facility between the newly purchased site and Albert House.
The BOTTLE BLUE is Albert House, Howard Holdings will redevelop lands to its rear (former rail terminus) as a new WebWorks (Business and IT facility) to be let to Enterprise Ireland.
The WHITE encroaching at the bottom is some of the O’Flynn Construction Eglinton Street development site. The 17-storey tower and 217 residential units over retail, office and 550 basement parking spaces – hit a planning snag regarding parking issues. 2 meetings have since been held between CCC and OFC, with a twist in the tale coming up soon I believe.
The NAVY = OFC’s nice No.5 and No.6 Lapps Quay office developments.
The TURQUOISE = Howard Holdings nearing completion City Quarter development with Clarion Hotel, Office Building, Boardwalk, Retail, Leisure, Parking etc all on site. A winner!
The BROWN triangle behind City Quarter is the tiny site of a proposed 12-storey office building of only 20,000sq ft. Though planning was set to be sought soon – I believe a number of issues are being first addressed. Still being kept quiet.
The BOTTLE GREEN feature the Reliance Building fronting Anderson’s Quay. It and adjoing buildings to the rear are being ‘assessed’.
And FINALLY, the GREEN = the infamous Horgan’s Quay redevelopment. CIE have said they don’t plan to move their behinds til 2007 – but we’ll see. Manor Park Homes + others are in on the plans. O’Mahony Pike were approached to formulate a masterplan – but others have also been contacted with 2 other plans devised, and from what I was told recently, have since been asked to be revised (good news???). It’s CIE, I won’t hold my breath. What could be there? Up to 5,000 residential units in 3 phases, a new commercial plaza, landmark highrise, quayside amenities, new road network, redevelopment train-station, multi-storey car-park (questionable now though), hotel and a few other nice surprises.
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Participant๐ Having withdrawn his previous application for Westend in Bishopstown only last month, Mark Kelleher has resubmitted a fresh application for the site in the hope that this revised proposal won’t meet the overwhelming, but quite frankly unwarranted, opposition posed by residents. Well over 100 objections were lodged against the proposal showing the small-minded can’t do attitude the residents of CAHRA having ably displayed over the months. In fairness, some objections were perfectly acceptable and quite right too – but the majority of ‘anti-highrise’ objections (the project was 5-storeys at its most) were quite frankly tripe!
But, let by-gones be by-gones, the new application is sought on the same site for a considerably more modest development consisting of 73 residential units made up of:4 No. Blocks of new townhouses comprising as follows; a)Block A- 6 no. Tce Hses, 2 storey with mansard roof, comprising 2 no. 4 bed and 4 no. 2 bed units b)Block B- 6 no. tce hses, 2 storey with mansard roof, comprising 1 no. 4 bed and 5 no. 3 bed units c)Block C- 20 no. units in 2 storey with mansard roof and 3 storey with mansard roof townhouses comprising 9 no. 3 bed duplexes, 10 no. 2 bed and 1 no. 1 bed units d)Block D- 11 no. 2 bed tce hses, 2 storey with mansard roof e)Block E- 4 no. tce hses 2 storey and 2 storey with mansard roof comprising 2 no. 4 bed, 1 no. 3 bed and 1 no. 2 bed units. With associated 36 no. grade level resident and visitors car parking. New 3 storey with mansard level apt devt over basement car park. The ground, 1st, 2nd & mansard floors will consist of a total of 26 no. apts comprising 8 no. 1 bed,17 no. 2 bed & 1 no. 3 bed units.The basement will comprise of 56 no. car parking bays.
Design is by Frank Ennis & Associates (whom I hear, on a side note, are investigating the possibility of following STW, O’Mahony Pike and others to Cork with a brand-new practice located in the city. However, it isn’t confirmed as of yet).
๐ฎ The Moran Family are awaiting a decision on their development in Deanrock, Togher of 71 residential units; consisting of 54 no. 3 bedroom houses, 7 no. 2 bedroom houses, 2 no. 4 bedroom house, 1 no. 3 bedroom apartment, 6 no. 2 bedroom apartments and 1 no. 1 bedroom apartment. Permission is also sought for 89 no. car parking spaces, the relocation of the existing site entrance, for roads, footpaths, lighting and all site development works.The application was submitted last October (2004) and was subject to extensive Further Information, with a number of small changes having been made. The locals took full advantage of the objection system, but the project will bring a new lease of life to an otherwise run-down area of the city. Design Strategies provided the architectural service on this one. A decision is due the 11th April 2005.
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ParticipantPug – not quite sure what building you are talking about there. Is it the former Mill building to the rear of the Bank of Ireland on the right as you go across Parliament Bridge? Or the corner building turning left onto South Mall and heading west toward Grand Parade??? THAT corner building isn’t seeing much action at the present but is scheduled for a refurbishment. The former Mill building is owned by Tumblegate Ltd (Tom McCarthy of Jacobs on the Mall Restaurant/Kingsley/McDev fame) – and was scheduled to commence a long-delayed redevelopment at the beginning of this year – contrators have switched from Joseph Lane & Son Ltd to O’Flynn of Banteer, however, still no progress seems to have being made – even after a promise to the City Manager and a number of structural reinforcements. Murray O’Laoire are the architects for what, some day, will become an extended restaurant at ground-floor (Jacobs), some retail, parking and over-head apartments.
lexington
ParticipantAn unusual sight struck me today as I head toward the western Cork suburbs. The sun was setting, but its rays were still beaming through the broken cloud – just like those pretty Summer days we all long for during the Winter. Looking up to that old reliable sight, Cork County Hall, I noticed something different – as part of the tower’s redevelopment, it is being refitted with a glass outer-shell of heat responsive tilting-windows. When the temperature is too hot, the panels open and allow cool air circulated throughout the building. Too cold? The panels shut and allow trapped air gradually heat – with the proper ventilation of course.
For the first time in living memory, the sunset was shining through County Hall undisturbed. Gaps in the building, as existing windows have been removed, allow a free space east-to-west of open air.
If anyone gets an image of this odd sight – post it up! ๐
lexington
ParticipantJust keep in mind that the map is pre-dated to the previous application and hence the building arrangements and bulk, internal roads, boardwalk etc have all been amended.
:confused: Seems the Mount Kennett Investments application for the Capitol Cineplex redevelopment is ‘INCOMPLETE’ – hmmm, we’ll be waiting another day or 2 so before a fully complete application is resubmit.
That over-head image of the docklands, out of date as it may be, could do nicely in visually outlining some of the big projects planned, in planning or pre-planning for the docklands. I won’t be able to highlight them all due to confidentiality issues – but I’ll highlight the ones I can and give a little background on each. I’ll get to that sometime this week.- AuthorPosts