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@securityman wrote:
I think the idea of including the english market would be a great idea and a totally different shopping experience possibly even calling the whole development the english market. Its a pity that the brog and qube complex will be knocked though because I fear cork is losing too many pubs and clubs in recent years. Can anybody confirm that the roundy on daunt square is to be turned into a phone shop and what is happening with lebowskis on marlboro st. With the increased population we need more places for leisure and entertainment so the planners need to be carefull of getting rid of small pubs etc areound the city.
If the Qube is knocked, you have to remember the other little purchases Joe O’Donovan has made recently, the former Christian Youth Centre at Paradise Place – which is ideally located in the heart of Cork’s nightlife district and The Coal Quay Bar on Cornmarket Street, next to the The Loft also bagged. Though the Loft & Coal Quay are more suited to a vertically extended retail centre, the Paradise Place premises is 8,000sq ft of potential nightclub in an unrivalled location. Mr. O’Donovan acquired this premises last year for 2.2m euros – well above the 975,000 euro guide price set by Dominic Daly Auctioneers.
I think the incorporation of The English Market into an large retail facility could work well, and certainly bring greater prominence and traffic to the little jewel itself – however it will have to be done very very cleverly and will need big money spent on an intelligent and attractive design. Part of the complex is expected to connect with the Capitol Cineplex department store redevelopment plan – however one prays this is not the standard of design set, although revised plans are anticipated soon (subject to other backroom discussions). Surely fuel to the fire will only be added by the recent sale of Pound City through auctioneers Lisney – this 2,000sq ft (ground floor only) premises actually borders close to the rear of the Capitol Cineplex.
:confused: A number of city centre acquistions in recent times have sparked rumours of a landmark project in the making. It seems that a number of investors, of whom Joe O’Donovan is believed to be among them, have acquired a number of properties from Oliver Plunkett Street (The Qube complex) through to Patrick’s Street. It is believed a project is now being assessed to link these properties together – including Mount Kennett Investments & John Costello’s plans for the Capitol Cineplex. The precise nature of the development is not yet clear – although it is understood talks are on-going with CCC regarding the project’s impact on the English Market which may indeed be included in some form, in the link. Also, Pound City on Patrick’s Street has recently been sold quietly through Lisney auctioneers – this may yet prove to be a further addition to plans, perhaps? More details on all the speculation soon.
Also Thomond Park, I agree about Cork’s management of urban sprawl – indeed it is one of it’s more attractive features in terms of urban planning. Throughout my time on Archiseek, I have regularly expressed my dismay at some of the housing project proposed around the city’s environs. I recognise the requirement for such projects, but in many cases I can’t justify the endless monotonous patterns of housing estates that stain much of our country’s land. Indeed, that’s not to say there are some very fine efforts in place – and there are – but quite often, this is not the case. Regarding Glanmire, I believe naturally – given it’s proximity to the city and a strong infastructural network – the region’s development is somewaht inevitable, however, although I generally believe OFC have demonstrated themselves as, perhaps, one of Cork’s more design conscious developers – the nature and scale of their developments at Dunkettle & Ballinglanna have me a little apprehensive – especially in light of the existing infastructure in Glanmire (and I mean schools, shops etc as well as transport). I do not think a town centre development would be out of the question at all, were in integrated and respectful (OFC’s BTC project is a good example of how a town centre can integrate into the existing framework of a town – however I accept Ballincollig is a whole different ball-game to Glanmire). I suppose I posited such a development in light of the such inevitable development – if CorkCoCo are going to continue endorsing it, a proper infastructure needs to be put in place. To argue against such a startegy and still see these estates spring up irrespective creates more long term damage regarding the management of the area. The town centre project should be a focused community based development – where the town to develop under its current layout, it would actually put greater strain on traffic management issues given the dispersed nature of the area and its commercial activities ie. Sallybrook to the north, Hazelwood mid-way and Glanmire village to the south. Utilisation of the roads is required to afford linkage between these locales – a centralised town centre focus with appropriate infastructure could allow for a better strategic management of this situation long-term. However, I can also seek argumentative issues to this. As for public transport, a track-based bus system could be a sustainable option – I wouldn’t specifically advocate a LUAS style system – as you say the CBA would not be favourable.
@A-ha wrote:
Oh, and p.s. i believe you just did comment on it, dumbass! cork deserved what it got, and unlike you, we don’t consider three pubs and a ceilà agus craic (however it’s spelled) the right to be given such a proud title.
If every dig is followed by a kick and a spit – then it is not welcome on this thread. If people wish to be immature and descend to this level, private message if you must, but don’t drag the thread down with this type of attitude. City bashing is not assessed critique – defend your home and pride by all means, but that doesn’t mean it has to stoop low. Be the bigger person.
Also, simply because I’ve quoted on name, does not mean this post is specifically aimed at anyone in particular, it should apply across the board – myself included.
Matter closed – there should be no need to respond/justify etc etc, just bite the bullet and please return to the subjects at heart.
Thank you. 😮
It seems controversy is already consuming the masses regarding OFC’s plans to lodge a €220m, 700 unit housing development at a 77-acre site in Ballinglanna near Glanmire. The development is within easy reach of the company’s other proposal for Dunkettle House, currently in appeal, for 629 units (though CorkCoCo only granted 527 of these units). Should the 2 proposals be granted, it would bring a total of 1329 new homes to the suburb of Glanmire, among the fastest growing in Ireland. Murphy Construction & Frinailla also have significant plans for the region. Question marks have been drawn over whether or not Glanmire as a community can sustain should a rapid increase in population. It is projected, should all the proposed units be filled, the area’s population is expected to grow by an estimated 5,000 over the next 7 to 8 years. A gentleman with CorkCoCo I had talked with yesterday said he was anxious on the successful growth of the Glanmire region – and developers will be pressed to make contributions to the development of community services to sustain the residential growth, i.e. extend school facilities, amenity grounds outside of contribution fees – much of which will now be geared for infastructural development over the coming years.
On a seperate note, Glanmire is unusual in that, for an area of its increasing size – it has no real town centre as such. Perhaps now is a ripe opportunity to provide the community with a significant and imaginative town centre development.
When I questioned the aforemntioned gentleman on whether CorkCoCo would ever consider allowing Glanmire to be bounded by CCC administration given its development and relation to the city – the answer was, ‘never say never, but unlikely’. A new public transport system would work very well in the area, linking it to the city centre over the coming years, I would posit a light-rail system (even connecting with the Glounthane/Midelton Arrow Lines) would work very well strategically and should be considered for development in tangent with new infastructural projects – which may, long-term, include a dual-carriageway connecting Glanmire with the Tivoli Dual-Carriagway, which may see an upgrade in the strategic future. This will ultimately link with the new National Route along Horgan’s Quay as part of Manor Park Homes’ €500m redevelopment project.
-> Regarding Horgan’s Quay, the project seems on schedule for a late October submission. It will, if successful be developed in 3 Phases, with a projected completion date of 2011/2012 (possibly later subject to planning). An event centre element may not be included as part of the initial application, but may follow subsequent (depending on the outcome of feasibility and design studies). Richard Collins is leading the design on the Horgan’s Quay redevelopment with architects O’Mahony Pike Architects. Tom Phillips Associates are the acting Town Planners, with John Gannon heading up consultations and Manor Park Homes will develop the project. CIE aim to submit a tandem application for a €20/25m redevelopment of Kent Station and adjoining new Bus Terminus.
@ihateawake wrote:
i think a jouney to cork is a big deal 🙂 and thats two hours
My God, how fast do you drive??? 😀
Indeed I agree, we are very lucky. There was a time when this country was not in a position to debate such investment – the sight of a tower crane in the skyline was a topic of citywide discussion (“What’s going in there?” “Did you see what they’re building over there?” etc etc) and I do think that sometimes we may forget that the investment taken by developers is positive for jobs, renewal, the economy etc. We shouldn’t forget the importance of that, and in our on-going criticisms of developers etc, we should remember that the willingness of such to take an investment risk in this country all those years ago was generally a issue of welcome.I think it is important to also remember that now, given the position we are now so lucky to occupy, it is important to make sure that it is used wisely. It is important to see that our country and urban landscapes benefit as many positives as possible that we can obtain from such a position and that the marks those efforts leave on our nation long-term are ones we can look back on and say ‘we did our best’. Websites like this may not exist – or be as successful – had we not our current economic and social climate to enjoy – but given our circumstances, it’s important to allow for debate. Not everyone is going to agree on a particular project – even though some projects may sometimes generally feel better than others (e.g. regarding high-rise for example – I believe SJR by OMS for Dunloe Ewart felt right, as does the U2 Tower by Craig Henry, Eglinton Street & Water Street in Cork and Riverpoint in Limerick), we should allow for debate to explore all the options.
@ctesiphon wrote:Didn’t you mean “in fairness to Cork City Council, like”?
No bother boy! 😉
@A-ha wrote:
When is work on City Hall due to be completed? I like what they’ve done so far. What is it that will be housed in there, offices?
See below.
Bowen Construction Apartment Development for Musgrave Park
🙂 Long term followers of this website may remember that I indicated in the LADSOCL thread that Bowen Construction would be seeking to develop approx. 50 apartments on lands abutting Musgrave Park – fronting the Kinsale and Tramore Roads. Well it now seems Bowen Construction are ready to lodge that application to build on the narrow strip of land beside (east of) the famous rugby grounds with permission to be sought for 55 apartments, 10 townhouses, roof gardens, 93 ground floor parking spaces, a retail unit just under 3,000sq ft and 2 new office units. The development blocks will stem between 3 and 6-storeys high with Wilson Architecture responsible for the design (Wilson have also been involved in another prospective, high-profile project very close by).
Massive OFC Housing Development near Glanmire
😎 Meanwhile, O’Flynn Construction (OFC) currently in appeal for their 629 unit housing development on the lands of Dunkettle House, will now seek to develop another 700 units on a 77-acre site they purchased at Ballinglanna near Glanmire. The 200m euro + development is to be built on the lands which OFC purchased for a believed 30m euros and will comprise of 393 two, three and four bedroom terraced houses, 166 two, three and four bedroom semi-detached houses, 79 detached houses of three and four bedrooms each and 62 one and two bedroom apartments. Also included are plans for a 2-storey creche, 3 commercial units, new vehicular access and a new roundabout from the Dunkettle Road. 2 tennis courts, play areas and public spaces are also proposed.
Thank you Caesar for those interesting images of the Fota Resort Hotel. Hogan Associates have shown an ability to display strong imagination on many of their projects. I agree that planners, who are not architects, sometimes impose conditions that may adversely affect the quality of design in a project – and in perhaps some cases, improve the design (perhaps by putting a proverbial ‘gun’ to the developers head saying “If you don’t improve, you don’t get the clear”) – and maybe that’s a debate you would be willing to contribute to in the thread The Effects of Planning on Design, I think a good debate was started on the topic there and I personally would be most interested to hear your input.
Generally, my opinion is, that it’s a multi-layered effort – and I whole heartedly agree, planners have an important input which sometimes is not always positive from a design perspective, but they have other considerations too – although I accept that this does not always justify their own causes. However, I do believe a big big part is clearly the responsibility of the architects and the developers. Fleming Construction have provided some positive steps I think with Trinity Court, but I would agree that quite a few of their other development efforts are wanting in the design department and I think they should be more forcefully encouraging of promoting better aesthetics. Design/Build efforts like that at Victoria Cross and Victoria Lodge are very disappointing. Their schemes at Rushbrooke, Stepaside etc are also not quite what they could perhaps otherwise be. I would hope to see the company take more proactive steps when considering design. But that’s just a personal feeling regarding design and is not in anyway an attack on the company, which has been most admirable in it’s growth strategy – they have shown to be generally open-minded indeed, but perhaps they could apply this mentality to a more positive design policy. Then again, if they keep getting planning for some of the more substandard designs, who is to tell them otherwise? :confused:
@d_d_dallas wrote:
Where in Dublin does the possibility exist for families to live in apartments? If suitably sized well serviced schemes were available, prejudice would subside. Based on the crud that has historically been piled up, Dublin’s stock of apartments leaves little option for raising a family.
I agree – and the latest schemes don’t seem to mirror the ‘family based’ ideology either, prime example being the very recent Mark II Partnership’s plans for the Microsoft Campus in Sandyford, of the 847 or so residential units planned, over 600 are 2-bedroom. Now historically this may have made sense but times and markets are changing – space for families is lacking, I note this especially in Dublin. There is a potentially buoyant market for accommodating families with quality, decent sized apartment living space – with enough space for a young or growing family, plenty of living room space, individual bedrooms for a mid-sized family, 2 bathrooms, dining room, recreation space etc. Not trying to sound odd here, but in fairness to Cork City Council, their push for ‘family-sized high-density’ accommodation in the city centre is starting to bare some fruit – point in case, O’Flynn Construction’s Eglinton Street development offering 3-bedroom, 1,900sq ft apartments – it’s a start and more of the same is on the way, with hopefully some improvements. Developers are slowly coming round to this new angle – well for Ireland.
@securityman wrote:
Has this development started yet lex or am I thinking of another development by them in ballincollig. Who is doing the work on this one cos lately its seems that Bowens are doing all their work I wonder is this because the rest are in direct competition with them elsewhere with their own developments I.e Flemings, O’Flynn Construction, O’Brien O’Flynn, Rohcon, Murphy construction, Murnane O’shea etc..
Classes Lake is well under way – I believe the final phase is now about construction. It is located on the Ovens side of Ballincollig. OCP have a good working relationship with the Bowen Group – however, Bowen do not handle all of OCP developments, for example, Rochelle College apartment developent along the Old Blackrock Road, which is being handled by John Paul Construction. One may cite a similar relationship between Howard Holdings and PJ Hegarty & Son Ltd, Frinailla with John Paul Construction etc – however I believe at the end of the day, it’s a project by project matter.@Graham Hickey wrote:
So many posts over the past 48 hours have screamed little but ‘oh but Mammy, Johnny down the road has one’.
To pick up one one point, the very reason Irish people ‘gasp’ when they go abroad to New York or wherever is because we are different, refreshingly so. Our lack of an audio meter-like skyline is because we are NOT the very places that have them! This is partially down to planning alright, but largely as has been pointed out there is little need for glittering skyscrapers in a country of four million people. Our nation is the UK equivalent of Birmingham. Our capital is a suburb in Birmingham.Dublin’s uniqueness stems from being the very thing that it is, a low-rise intimate capital of a small, peripheral European country. It will never have a large conglomeration of international-equivalent ‘skyscrapers’, nor is this desirable.
A medium-rise Docklands of 8-10 storeys punctuated by the odd ‘feature’ building of 30-40 storeys in the Docklands is much more suited to the scale of Dublin city. Unfortunately it seems we’re not going to get even this in light of what has happened thus far.As for what Americans think about the scale of our buildings, with all due respect blah blah blah, who gives a toss about what Americans think, or anyone else for that matter, about the scale of our buildings. This is not contest.
Agreed.
Also, media quotes earmarked the Point Village development with a price-tage of €700m – seeing the plans, I’m confused as to how Mr. Crosbie is spending so much on relatively so little (with respect to the plans). For €500m, O’Flynn Construction have effectively built a new town in Ballincollig, Cork – with a new 170,000sq ft shopping centre, multi-storey car-park for over 1,000 cars, a new multi-purpose town centre, over 800 new houses/apartments, over 100,000sq ft of offices, new recreational facilities etc. For almost the same price in the Cork docklands, Manor Park Homes are redeveloping 17 acres at Horgan’s Quay with approx. 1,000 new homes (apartments etc), new waterfront, new road network, landmark buildings (some of which are ‘high-rise’), a new recreational facility/green space, plaza, office facilities, retail outlets, cultural facilities etc etc – and the possibility of a new 6,000 seater event centre. Point Village seems a little expensive should those quotes be proven accurate. :confused:I am curious if this ‘lust’ for highrise is blinding many persons to the quality of design being imposed by these projects. So far, few high-rises proposed in the recent flurry across Ireland, have satisfied what I (personally) would constitute as a genuinely landmark character (I don’t mean auctioneer landmark, I mean real landmark). Perhaps it draws back to the age old debate of what constitutes ‘landmark’. I have a strong affinity for Dublin, but I don’t think it’s approach to high-rise has been entirely productive. In my opinion, one of the best ‘landmark’ projects proposed for Dublin has actually been low-rise – the Sandyford scheme proposed by Landmark Developments and designed by the Traynor O’Toole Partnership. Of the highrise, I actually like the Alburn proposal for Sandyford, but I’m not so confident of its location. Dublin is riddled with unique and interesting structures – modern and old. In embracing high-rise, I think the city stands to benefit from high-rise development in a centralised context in areas which can adequately accommodate them – my preference? The docklands. However I do not oppose genuine positive projects in other areas, including suburban. After all, a strong case should be made for quality of design over height – where a design produces greater positivity. So far, Treasury Holdings’ high-rise proposals have been far from landmark, I am especially referring to the 32-storeu Barrow Street proposal which screams Benidorm’s worst. The Point Village proposal is nothing special and my opinion is known on Heuston Gate. The U2 Tower remains the best high-rise proposal for the docklands – it is a distinctive building with a character all of it’s own, that happens to be both aesthetically pleasing and architectural innovative. It’s a building I believe Dublin will grow proud of in years to come. But why can’t the city’s other projects strive to achieve the same quality? I agree a city blanketed with landmark high-rises detracts from the uniqueness of inidvidual efforts – but that doesn’t mean the city should suffer at the hands of poor design.
It is an exciting time – but it will be more exciting to see what positive accomplishments and lasting design contributions can be forged from these efforts. I believe and support high-rise steps in Ireland – God knows some of our urban areas could do with some skyline distinction – but in carefully assessed moves. Some urban areas seem suited to taller structures like the Dublin and Cork docklands and Limerick’s waterfront, in my own opinion – I think Galway’s character would be lost with some high-rise (but that’s just a personal thing and not a knock by any stretch of the imagination – design pending). It’s good to see a little adventure in Irish skylines – but some attitudes remind me of the little kid who was given the key to the sweet shop, overjoyed at the prospect of all those sweets, he stuffed his face with every possible kind and swallowed them without even stopping to taste them. That evening he lay sick in his bed – while his little brother sat down by the fire with a bag of his own sweets and took the time to enjoy each one individually.
🙁 Well despite Paul Kenny’s confidence that his The Treasury office development for St. Patrick’s Quay, designed by Wilson Architecture, would not be taken to appeal by the McLaughlin Family and Bell Scott Engineering – it would seem the two have lodged individual 3rd Party Appeals against the proposed new home of the Revenue Commissioners (RC). The landmark office development is in the running for the RC with a decision scheduled from the OPW on the preferred location on September 24th 2005. Mr. Kenny had lodged his own 1st Party appeal regarding certain CCC imposed conditions – however the prospect of a 3rd Party Appeal (which may delay the project by another 4 months minimum – should a resolve not be found in the meantime) may also damage the proposals hopes for a successful outcome on attaining RC tenancy.
😎 It seems Fleming Construction look set to purchase the 136 acre lands gracing the Ballincollig By-Pass near Curraheen. It’s a bit of a gamble considering the lands, which were guiding at approx. 10m euro through auctioneers Irish & European, are not zoned for development and probably won’t be for some time. It is rumoured that the lands are being sold for approx. 17.5 to 17.75m euros. This is a long term investment it would seem – unless a certain speculation regarding a certain national sports organisation and their valuable site were to materialise! 😉 :confused:
😮 O’Callaghan Properties (Classes Housing) have attained permission for a community related development at their Classes Lake housing development near Ballincollig. The new development will include retail, restaurant, take-away, offices, 3 apartments, a pharmacy, library, medical centre and petrol station.
I love the lighting scheme along Lapps Quay at night, No.5, No.6 and City Quarter really bring life to this area of the city at night and is a fine example of how clever, effective lighting can really make a building look its best come the night. It’s something I hope more future developments incorporate. It works to effectively promote a structure/development and also enhances the aesthetics of a locale if done intelligently.
🙂 As previously mentioned, John & Michael O’Dwyer are preparing to lodge 2 seperate applications to develop 23 new 1 & 2 bedroom apartments over a commercial unit and with parking on their premises at Hanover Street. The buidling is designed by James Leahy & Associates and will stretch to 6-storeys with ancillary roof gardens. The project adjoins another interesting project, currently in planning, that of a 7-storey office building (recently requested further information) at Clarke’s Bridge, designed by Coughlan de Keyser Associates, being developed by Adrian Power and marketed by DNG Harris Commercial.
Thanks for the 2 article recently posted Thomond Park! Makes for interesting reading. 😉@shadow wrote:
Is 32 storeys related to anything. A Magic Number?
It’s perhaps the number developers best feel they can get away with, the threshold of the acceptable. And I do think the Heuston Gate project has a lot got to do with that. Personally, none of the proposed 32-storey structures for Dublin do anything in the slightest for me – including Mr. Crosbie’s Point plan.
@paul lite wrote:
Has anybody got any images of Cork County Hall? I would like to see pictures of how it is at right now and what it will look like when completed. I can’t seem to find images of County Hall anywhere. Cheers.
Most recent image of it’s construction I have available can be found at Deconstruction of Cork County Hall thread – with images of the proposed finish available at Shay Cleary Architects. Obviously CCH’s redevelopment has significantly advanced from the time of the first image’s capture.
🙂 Pierse Construction are working away on site at the lands of the former Ursuline Convent in Blackrock. Along with Firestone Developments, Pierse Construction have initiated a joint venture with Kieran Coughlan & Claire O’Riordan (Lyonshall Limited) on the €200m plan they succeeded in attaining permission for; a scheme of ultimately 550 residential units comprising a mix of houses, duplexes and apartments designed by O’Mahony Pike Architects. The overall development is planned in phases, with the 1st Phase set to constitute approx. 180 new homes – Pierse had originally signed to commit to the 1st Phase, however it is now understood that they are set to embark on full project particpation. Lisney Cork and Hooke & MacDonald in Dublin will be handling sales, which are due to be launched in September 2005 – with first completions on the scheme expected for Autumn 2006. The project is to be marketed as “Eden”.
😉 Just on O’Mahony Pike Architects’ schemes in Cork, the firm are set to have their presence felt strongly across the city over the coming years. Long ago, I remarked in a post regarding the practice’s opening of a Cork office, that the move would allow the firm facilitate what would be a busy time for them throughout Leeside – well with Frinailla expected to lodged plans for their Dennehy’s Cross scheme soon, and proposals supposedly on schedule for an October lodgement regarding Manor Park Homes’ Horgan’s Quay redevelopment – we can be sure OMP will be having a significant impact on some of Cork’s most noteworthy developments. And that’s not all either…
🙂 You may remember I mentioned not so long ago that bookshop/newsagents Hughes & Hughes were looking to push into the Cork market – well, it would now look as if this is set right to proceed with the retailler operating 2 new stores at the new €140m terminal at Cork Airport – which is scheduled to open to traffic in Spring 2006.
😉 And also, news from a respectable inside party, informs that plans for a new, predominantly office, building is being planned for the Doyle Warehouse 0.2 acre premises along Albert Quay which sold, ultimately, for a figure over €8m after months of to-and-fro between 2 rival bidders. Speculation is now abound regarding the fate of the premises which lies between the Doyle site and Albert Quay House (now being redeveloped as a new WebWorks by Howard Holdings), it is believed the 2 centre properties (including Twill Ltd premises) may be controlled by O’Flynn Construction and Ascon Gable Holdings – however the party couldn’t offer any details into that issue. It is expected that an application may be made on the premises before the year end, unfortunately, nothing more specific could be offered from the source at the time, other than keep your eyes on it. But I’ll keep checking up! :p
I recently was asked about images of the new Victoria Cross student scheme under construction by Fleming Construction, on behalf of UCC. The scheme will provide for 45 new student apartments over 5 blocks ranging from 4/5 storeys over basement car-park. The design is by Bertie Pope & Associates. The image below was formulated in a time before Victoria Mills and does not incorporate either Phase 1 (completed) or Phase 2 (under construction). I actually did post an alternative image of the project in the LADSOCL thread but here’s a view of the road-frontage, it’s a pretty big image – so when you click on the thumbnail, beware! I’ll let the image speak for itself…
@yorktown wrote:
Does anyone know what’s the story about the appeal for Eglington Street……I heard that they were appealing the fact that they have been charged development contributions for basement car parking…..a bit odd as the Development Plan makes them provide parking?
My understanding is that it is in part due to reductions made to the Eglinton Street elevation. As for the basement car-parking, I would agree that development contributions should not be charged for providing parking spaces which CCC have called for themselves. But as you know, OFC faced a bit of a sticking point with the Planning Dept. on the quantity of spaces they wished to provide at basement level (553) – the developers claimed the numbers were crucial to the overall viability and attractiveness of the development, I would tend to support the argument in this case and for other arguments beyond viability issues. Generally such spaces facilitate a development (and the immediate surrounds). OFC were granted the spaces ultimately subject to a rearrangement of space usage. Predominant usage of the car-park is for long-term residents, therefore traffic generation should generally be minimised with respect to the development. Spaces are however also available on a short-term basis for retail & office associated uses.
I know however, a friend of mine, would argue that if the developer intends to market these spaces, they should be included in consideration of the overall development and thus liable to development contributions. But I’ll leave you consider that yourself. OFC, I am told, remain optimistic about an early 2006 start to the project. 🙂
