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  • in reply to: developments in cork #758524
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    @Radioactiveman wrote:

    Sorry for the rant- but I do feel there is a part of this thread which would prefer if the city was carved up between CCC and developers and residents should have no input at all.


    Too right that residents are entitled to input – I would never argue otherwise. I think where the bulk of the resentment comes in is where you have consistent, blanket objections to everything proposed by certain groups which do not seek constructive co-operation but rather outright imposition – and often arguments are ill-founded and imbalanced. This style of activity dampens the causes of many others and I suppose unfairly promotes an attitude of resentment. I would always ask the objectors educate themselves at what excatly is being proposed. A nice example is an objection lodged against the Victoria Cross development on the Plumbing Store – with a respresentative of the objection later stating they didn’t have a problem with student apartments, but just felt there was enough. Interestingly that particular development is not specifically aimed at student occupancy. It’s little things like that – or blanket objections to anything 2 storeys or higher.

    One objection lodged against the Westend proposal stated they based their argument on the fact that Block D balconies overlooked their home – right into the garden in fact – a totally valid point. The proposal was concurrently amended to consider this. Objections are a democratic right – but like all rights, they must not be abused. As for public representative arguments – there’s no issue. And if Kathleen Lynch was objecting to a proposal as a representative of her constitutents, the entitlement is 100%. I was simply curious as to how you attributed the resultant scheme at CitySquare – my belief is that the input of objectors was assessed and planning directors determined the best outcome with respect to their understanding of the strategic development of the area. A big problem I feel suffered by resident objectors is the hinderance in asymmetric information (having said that, some architects/planners have been very considered with local residents including them in progress reports from a very early stage – such as that at Water Street). I have always believed this forum is a useful tool for persons to see the alternative perspective on designs and maybe, as a result, they could formulate a more rounded argument…perhaps??? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    in reply to: developments in cork #758523
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    A light-hearted (partially speculative) look at some retail development in the city…

    Following protracted demand for numerous retaillers about a lack of sufficiently sized higher-order retail accommodation in Cork city centre – it seems at last, the tide is turning. At a wider level, the retail scene in surburban Cork has also seen a notable turn.

    We begin with…

    Dunnes Stores at 102 to 105 St. Patrick’s Street – the company have submitted an extensive plan for the redevelopment of its ‘birth’ store along the street. The development, designed by Bertie Pope & Associates, is due for a decision on November 28th 2005, and will see the entire store and structures to the rear facing Drawbridge Street demolished, save for the facades along Patrick’s Street. A 6-storey over basement retail structure of some 130,000sq ft is sought permission to host Dunnes Stores’ flagship Cork store.

    Academy Street – O’Callaghan Properties have enlisted Project Architects (Dublin & Cork) and Gehl Architects (Copenhagen) to design a new, highly anticipated and prominent mixed-use structure occupying the former Irish Examiner offices and printing press, as well as various other acquired properties including the Johnson & Perrott Motor Dealership and Grand Circle Lounge at Emmet Place, Jean Scene building, 95 Patrick’s Street, Le Chateau and others along St. Patrick’s Street in a land acquisition effort approximated at in or above รขโ€šยฌ80m. The site will house a 6-storey structre with apartments on the upper levels, office space and over 200,000sq ft of retail space housing up to as many as 40 units over a number of levels – over residential basement car-parking and loading areas. The retail element will host higher order, predominantly fashion based outlets and form the centre-piece of a larger retail scheme which will host elements at…

    …16 Lavitts Quay, the nearby site acquired by OCP from Howard Holdings – adjacent to OCP HQ @ 21 Lavitts Quay. It is understood that the upper floors will host residential and office elements – and should provide a nice sense of well designed quayside continuity in terms of height with consideration to 21 Lavitts Quay. This affords a nice link to…

    …Paul Street S.C. and Multi-storey car-park, which is subject for a noteworthy refurbishment. The existing elements of this centre offer a grocery element in the form of Tesco, to the overall higher-order retail link. A connection may also be afforded across Paul’s Lane to…

    …Rockfell Investments’ Cornmarket Street development, which is due for construction early next year. 9 large units will be provided over 120,000sq ft + of retail mall. Above which, 65 apartment units will be provided in a scheme designed by Frank Ennis & Associates.

    Recent acquistions by a consortium, involving Joe O’Donovan at St. Patrick’s Street, Market Lane, Grand Parade and apparently Oliver Plunkett Street suggest a site collection for a potentially large upper-scale retail development linking Cork’s 3 prime retail streets. A possible, delicate linkage may be afforded the English Market, providing a grand mix and arrangement of retail and commercial functions. A possible residential element may also be constituent. Speculation assumes discussions have been made with Paul O’Brien and John Costello on their plans for a redevelopment of the…

    …Capitol Cineplex. Plans lodged earlier in 2005 sought permission for a new retail building of some 30,000sq ft + with 18 overhead apartments in a scheme designed by The e-Project. Significant Further Information requests have yet to be met, fuelling talk that a possible link may be in line with the larger scheme mentioned above. Revised Plans may yet be issued, with a subsequent application for linkage provided later. But for now, purely, speculative.

    Grand Parade Plaza, a residential and retail scheme by Frinailla Developments had received full planning for 50 units, now fully sold according to sources at Global Properties. Excavation works are now complete. Approx. 3,000sq m of retail space is planned, with a high-profile tenant understood to be earmarked. The acquistion of the Goat Broke Loose Bar for รขโ€šยฌ4m offers a potential expansion of additional retail and residential space for the project, and an improved street frontage. Further opportunities in the area exist.

    Manor Park Homebuilders are likely to seek a healthy presence of retail provision at their redevelopment of Horgan’s Quay. Although no planning date is yet earmarked, and quibbles regarding retail provision on the quayside do exist, it is likely MPH will include enough retail to act as an attractive community based provision, as well as an attraction for persons farther afield. Proposals are cited to be of the highest architectural quality and designed by O’Mahony Pike Architects.

    And now for the speculation, some well grounded, some rumour based…

    – Merchant’s Quay S.C. may seek an enhancement in the near future to steadfast its position as a city centre retail draw. Plans may indeed see a vertical extension to the eastern end of the centre increasing floorspace, retail accommodation and continuity. Some adjustments may encroach on the open car-parking area at the 4th level of the multi-storey car-park. External upgrades will likely feature as part of the task. Speculation type: Unconfirmed

    – Roches Stores may look to expand and redevelop part of their St. Patrick’s Street Department Store – and ‘birth’ store. Not long after completion of an extensive IRร‚ยฃ20m expansion designed by NMA, work may include underground parking – recouping any losses following work to their multi-storey car-parking and indeed adding to space. Access would consist of a rearranged access point from Parnell Place and development works may indeed impact on their current loading area off Maylor Street. Speculation type: informed by 3 sources, not confirmed.

    – Howard Holdings are assessing expansion and redevelopment opportunities to their very valuable Wilton S.C. acquired late last year from Tesco with investor Joe O’Donovan for a figure at around รขโ€šยฌ120m. Making it one of the largest investment acquisitions of 2004. Following consistent speculation (and matched by consistent denial stating that the property was for mere investment purposes), it is understood that a large-scale redevelopment of the centre is being assessed. Options on the scheme include vertical adjustments and expansion over existing car-park areas which will see additional retail space facilitated over basement car-parking. Roches Stores may also seek to expand their department store at the centre by bringing it in-line with their new store image. This will likely include additional levels. The site location is unrivalled – however concerns regarding traffic management and impact on city centre retail will undoubtedly be raised. Also, how would such a scheme affect Mr. O’Donovan’s other plans in the city centre???

    (Some details have been purposely removed – apologises)

    in reply to: developments in cork #758521
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    @Radioactiveman wrote:

    I think that’s a bit harsh on Deputy Lynch. As an elected representative, it is her job to represent the views of her constituents– just like any other elected representative. Therefore, it is not a great surprise that she makes a large number of submissions on proposed developments in her constituency (both negative AND positive).
    That is all they are- submissions. If the planners believe there is no basis to the submission (or any submission) they can just ignore them and grant permision. There may be a number of crank, serial submitters out there, but it is surely up to the planners to make the final decision.
    Kathleen Lynch’s submission on the Frinailla project has meant that what has now been green-lit is many times better in terms of architectural standards than the “monolithic” monstrosity which was first proposed.

    I’m sorry, just to clarify something – are you saying because of her objection the project is better in architectural terms? Did she not object to the current proposal also and in light of the planning report expressed disappointment that the Board did not adhere the recommendation by David Dunne (Planning Inspector)? :confused:

    in reply to: developments in cork #758516
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    @jungle wrote:

    Is the new kiosk-like structure that appeared next to the busman’s prefab yesterday its permanent replacement or something totally unrelated?

    I saw it and I can’t say its a beauty. For a brief moment, the only thing that distinguished it from the Portacabin was the absense of graffiti. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ I had expected a structure more in line with the style of the nearby bus-stops, it’s pretty prominent.

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    @Bob Dole wrote:

    I believe it’s a fly tower .
    Agreed, it should not have been used to set the new datum.

    I disagree – as part of prospective further development at the Opera House, a number of enhancement and extension options had been envisaged as far back as 1998/9. Among these, as indicated by Gerry Barnes himself, a vertical extension. Though some planners did note that building height should not use the fly-tower as a benchmark – the decision regarding 21 Lavitts Quay was overturned by Director of Planning Services and City Manager. Besides the desire to reclaim city centre office development – undoubtedly the Opera House propsect was a factor. This stretch of Lavitts Quay is well capable of accommodating this scale of structure – the new OCP building conveys such prominence given its positioning and with gaping spaces to either side of it – its a good building, but the quayside will be provided with further continuity with prospective development at 16 Lavitts Quay infilling the gap between 21 Lavitts Quay and an extended Opera House – with a possible (and I highlight ‘possible’) vertical extension to the rear of the PS to the west (???).



    @Thomond Park wrote:

    Having been in Cork the week before the Stirling Prize was announced I happened to read a full page article on the Glucksman Gallery written by a certain IT journalist. It wouldappear that Dunlop O’Callaghan has as poor a grip on fact as he has design taste.

    ??? :confused:

    in reply to: developments in cork #758514
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    @ToMuchFreeTime wrote:

    Does any one know whats happening to the esso garage next to the jurys site as it was up for sale. not sure if sold or not??

    The 0.6acre Muskerry Service Station was sold earlier this summer through CBRE Gunne for รขโ€šยฌ8.5m – the station was due to be closed in October but will now operate until late December (subject to change). An application was expected in December, but that remains to be seen.

    in reply to: developments in cork #758511
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    @ToMuchFreeTime wrote:

    Did any one have a look at the echo today??

    Had a quick look as went in to shop today but didn’t have time to read it.
    The whole front page was taken up with a heading something similar to

    talks being held over 8,000 seater arena in showgrounds ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    Or somthing like that. :p
    Does any one have any more information on this as it’s recking my head as
    can’t get to shop as to busy. If it pans out this would be great news!!

    The MAS have held discussions with parties – each at varying stages of advancement. One team is only beginning discussions on the prospect – it is understood Howard Holdings are positing the option as part of a wider scheme to CCC in talks about developing the land on a long-term leasehold basis (I don’t know straight off if they’ve had serious contact with the MAS themselves however, although I would imagine it is not too far away if not already begun). Another party, has had some attachment with the site in the past – however the level of advancement is unknown. The third party has designs on the site and commenced discussions with both MAS/CCC and a well known international operator.

    in reply to: The G Hotel #763264
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    @kingpin976 wrote:

    Edward Holdings and Douglas Wallace have to be the most visionary developer/architectural teams going at teh moment

    Agreed – the imagination is certainly there. Some of their schemes I’m not madly wild about but they receive full praise for their co-operative edge and willingness to put new twists on tired ideas. Gerry Barrett, it would seem, is establishing himself as perhaps one of the most culturally aware developers around at the moment, and as a result, is perhaps one of the more exciting.

    in reply to: developments in cork #758509
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    ๐Ÿ™‚ Cado Systems have been permitted to develop a 4850sq m office block over 45-space basement car-parking at their premises along Bessboro Road, Blackrock. The new building, designed by RKD Architects will provide various units for business and technology uses.



    alpha – the views from the Lewis Glucksman Gallery are well worth the visit alone – and yes, it’s Brown Thomas now.


    in reply to: 27 storey tower for Drogheda #749792
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    @alpha wrote:

    how are things going with this proposal these days. it hasn’t been mentioned in a while. anyone know what the latest is? the further info was requested a good few weeks ago now.

    The project is still in Further Information.

    in reply to: developments in cork #758496
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    @browser wrote:

    Hi all,

    I have not posted before but am a long time admirer of the site. Just wondering, with all the stuff in the papers about Cork City FC these last few days, if anyone knows the nature of the redevelopment of the Shed End. Is a stand replacing just the current small terrace or are they building a stand going the width of the pitch? As all the papers say it will be done in coming months there is, presumably, extant planning permission.

    Thanks in advance.

    I’ll be honest the Cork City FC intentions are not my strong point, but my understanding is that it’s being demolished to make way for a further seated stand with a 2,000+ capacity. :confused:

    in reply to: developments in cork #758492
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    @kite wrote:

    ๐Ÿ˜ก
    Cork airport to have ONLY ONE airbridge (Evening Echo today)

    Indeed the announcement that only 1 airbridge is to be provided in the interm is something of a disappointment, and somewhat conflicts with promises made earlier this year by both the DoT and CAA. ๐Ÿ™

    in reply to: Dundalk #752668
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    I’d be interested to hear opinions on the Murray O’Laoire design of Dundalk’s new Private Healthcare facility (valued at รขโ€šยฌ35m), destined to be located by the Cooley Peninsula on the outskirts of the town.

    The building will provide a suite of four new theatres and day services together with 100 beds – services to be included will encompass areas such as; Cardiology, IVF, Diagnostic Imaging, General Surgery, Vascular Surgery, ENT, General Medicine, Rheumatology, Neurology, Pain Management, Dermatology, Oncology, Ophthalmology, Psychiatry, Paediatrics, Gynaecology, Haematology, Pathology, Orthopaedics, Sports Medicine, Physiotherapy and Urology.

    A suite of 20 consultants clinics are included in a tower at the eastern end of the new building.

    The project will amass to an area of 12,000sq m.



    Also Graham, I had intended to travel Dundalk way before Christmas – but it’s looking increasingly doubtful lately. Any further images of The Marshes since its opening? Now that the dust is settling, what are perceptions of the scheme of late? Thanks! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    in reply to: Trichet Signals ECB Interest Rate Hike (18/11/2005) #763304
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    Graham Hickey wrote:
    Developers you mean ]

    Well it’s all related really Graham, I suppose you have to consider where architects get their business – homeowners, developers, councils, research bodies etc etc – if money supply is tighten, a decrease it demand usually follows (as a general rule of economics). One affects the other and architectural business volumes are just as prone to changes in the cost of borrowing as any other business, including developers. A change in professional title does not guarantee immunity. But that said, I was just throwing this bit of information up there for persons who may be interested – i.e. propsective homebuyers and the like. I don’t think the December and Spring hikes will have any dramatic impact on activity and clearly when I reference the above impacts on business I am considering a much more severe hike scenario. I’ll leave it at that I suppose. ๐Ÿ™‚

    I’m glad we are still in a position to be able to promote stronger architectural values in this country – as I’ve said before, its a bar that must be continually pursued.

    in reply to: The G Hotel #763256
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    Agreed, I love the OTT nature of 5-star The G – I think Edward Holdings, Douglas Wallace and Phillip Treacy just let a rip on this one and it will certainly be a nice addition and perhaps a nice departure from what we have commonly come to expect from hotels in Ireland. The D in Drogheda (as part of Scotch Hall) is the sister hotel also operated by Edward Holdings/Monogram Hotels. The company have plans, as I understand it, to develop another few additions.

    Interesting link:
    Monogram Hotels & Phillip Treacy

    in reply to: Trichet Signals ECB Interest Rate Hike (18/11/2005) #763301
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    @anto wrote:

    and how is this related to architecture exactly?

    Rate increases (though perhaps not this hike???) impact on the ability to borrow and hence demand. For many architects day-to-day – demand for their services are affected by movements in this demand. I suppose not all architects are dealing with new gallery designs or office blocks or bridges etc – many earn their living by one-off or multiple housing project commissions. I accept that this post isn’t directly detailling anything specifically regarding architecture as a topic – but for many of the architects and associated persons that use the forum, I thought the topic was of relevance to them given that such movements can affect their livelihood. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    It doesn’t need to be debated or anything, but I just thought it may be an interesting piece of information for them to update on. Or for users living abroad not aware of progressions such as this back home.

    in reply to: developments in cork #758487
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    ๐Ÿ™‚ Marlboro Trust (Retail) Limited are seeking permission to develop a single storey discount foodstore on a 5.46acre site off the Old Youghal Road in Mayfield. The split roof design seems to hark at similar styles adopted by the likes of Aldi and Lidl…hmmm ๐Ÿ˜‰ – the store will be provided over 1565sq m with 1075sq m of that applied for actual retail sales. 106 surface parking spaces are to be provided, along with 84 further spaces associated with an extension to the existing wholesale retail structure on the site – this latter provision also being made as part of the overall application.



    ๐Ÿ™‚ Triple D Warehousing have enlisted James Leahy & Associates to design a new scheme of 21 apartment units (9 2-bedroom and 12 1-bedroom) in a single 3-storey building over basement car-park. Their soon to be lodged application applies to their Longs Yard premises along Tower Street, near Barrack Street.



    ๐Ÿ™‚ Meanwhile Jeremiah O’Sullivan will seek to demolish the former Trident Safety premises at 16 Anglesea Street and redevelop a new 4-storey office building with ground-floor retail. The proposal lands within the boundaries of Cork’s emerging, extended office district.


    kite – no need to get all fussed up, although I entirely appreciate your frustration. What’s disappointing for me is the group’s lack of reasonable foresight. The group includes some very well educated and decent people with backgrounds like medicine, engineering, teaching etc among others – however, when it comes to the issue of development, their belief-structure is anything but ‘sustainable’ contrary to their title. It’s a pity that they misconceive the fundamentals – they cannot seem to reason beyond what they merely believe to be ‘developer’ greed and condemn/villify those that conflict to their logic – often forgetting and thus undermining the qualification and character of those professionally trained and operative within the fields of planning, design, development, finance and economics etc including the likes of Cork City Council. I don’t want to go down this whole road again, but at the end of the day, it’s their money that is being misdirected – think of all the good their fundraising efforts could do in satisfying the provision of say, playgrounds, maintaining greenspaces, setting up their own community facilities, entering constructive negotiation with developers (rather than confrontational efforts) to benefit their local area – something the members are more that capable of doing. With all that money funding appeals and objections – I feel their actions could be more constructively utilised, and if they ever choose to to work for a constructive rather than destructive outcome, you be well sure their wishes for community provision, better green areas, better traffic management etc etc would be a lot more swiftly adhered to. People only listen to someone giving out to them for so long, there comes a point when they just get fed up and leave the room. A response is much more likely to materialise where reason is shown. Oh well. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: developments in cork #758484
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    ๐Ÿ™ An appeal has been lodged against Frinailla’s plans to develop a 6-storey, 25-unit apartment development (not intended for student usage) over 42-space dual-level basement car-park designed by Richard Rainey & Associates for the former Plumbing Utilities store along Victoria Cross Road. The revised plan was permitted planning at the beginning of this month. The appeal has been lodged by Mick Murphy with the Communities for Sustainable Development anti “high-rise” lobby group. Frinailla already have existing planning on the site, from its previous owner, for a student development – and the option remains open for them to embark on this less aesthetically pleasing proposal – should any appeal prove unsuccessful. In a sense, the appeal is leaving the local residents open to a less favourable option. Could the appeal money have been put to better use?



    ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Next Wednesday remains the scheduled planning decision date for Michael Bradley’s proposal along Sheare’s Street, designed by Magee Creedon. The small but prominent proposal seeks to redevelop the very small single-storey former take-away premises at 44 Sheare’s Street and construct a 4-storey over basement building including retail provision at basement and ground floors, office space on the 1st floor and a duplex apartment unit for 1-bedroom with roof-terrace over the 2 further levels. The design is imaginative and will certainly give something for people to talk about should it receive permission.



    ๐Ÿ˜ฎ John Cleary Developments are also scheduled for a decision date next week, on Thursday 24th November 2005, regarding their Coughlan de Keyser designed office and retail development on the former Sifco premises at Mahon. To be built to the rear of the proposed MotorMall, the development consists of over 113,000sq ft of office space over 4 levels and in excess of 20,000sq ft of retail showrooms over 4 ground floor units, all above 2 levels of basement car-parking for 301 spaces. No objections or submission were lodged against the proposal.

    in reply to: developments in cork #758481
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    Thanks for those images RM, very nice – indeed John Paul Construction have made great progress on the project. A further 123sq m of additional floorspace is currently in planning. It should be a great asset to the city.

    Indeed you are right that Enterprise Ireland are involved, although they will lease space to designated businesses on an ‘incubation’ basis. It is designed to give prospective enterprise quality premises and help aid their development with a specific view to IT/Tech industry but with Financial sector firms also involved. The project itself is actually being developed by Howard Holdings on EI’s behalf (so to speak). ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    Completed development photomontages are available here.

    The addition of Eglinton Street to the rear, a prospective proposals to the east of the quay will bring a real sense of continuity and ‘cosmopolitan’ air to this cleverly rejuvenated quarter.



    Also with respect to David Dunne’s report, he is also the inspector behind Water Street’s appeal – given the epic nature of this project’s planning run, I’ll be very curious to see what he has to say about the development come decision day – which is scheduled for November 24th 2005 (this day week), but as we all know, the exact date may not be met.

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    @BTH wrote:

    I think that this reply basically sums up all that’s bad with developers in this country – breathtaking arrogance, no willingness to accept past mistakes (the merchant’s quay shopping centre is truly indefensable no matter what the ecomomic climate was at the time), and a general sense that he believes that all development is good development… For god’s sake the Lavitts Quay development is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen and I’d challenge anyone to defend it. In many ways its worse than Merchant’s Quay because so much money has been thrown at it that the end result could have easily been something with a bit of grace… Exactly the same is true of Mahon Point – another completely soulless tarmac desert with some tin boxes thrown around and a bit of copper to make it “interesting”, It’s Blanchardstown/Liffey Valley/Tallaght all over again and it doesnt work! Why do you think all of the above are looking at major redevelopment plans already involving streets and places and mixed uses.
    I’m not saying that I totally agree with McDonald’s article – there are lots of smaller scale developments of high quality going on and a great energy in the city at the moment. Ballincollig Town Centre is a very interesting looking scheme and I’m looking forward to seeing it in the flesh. But I’d rather have Frank McDonald, someone who knows something about architectural quality and good urban spaces, lecture me than some money grabbing developer…

    The one thing I’ve come to learn over the years about architecture is (to borrow a good friend’s phrase) “it’s a matter of opinion, and my opinion matters”. Architecture, for me, has always been about creating an environment which betters the nature of an area for the people – it is an increasingly important facet of our society and one which I believe deserves recognition. My belief is that boundaries need to be consistently challenged – like any foray, mistakes are made. It is part of the learning process and as with anything, design cannot progress without lessons – the trick is to minimise these mistakes. We are a lucky society – the public have become increasingly aware of the benefits and importance of architecture – because in today’s environment, we are in a position to do so. Frankly, I’m delighted we are – and this type of debate is part of that process in the progression of our ideas about architecture, urban design and development as a whole.

    The recent winner of the Kyrls Quay CCC/RIAI Architectural Ideas Competition was awarded to Conroy Architecture – a design, I personally find utterly boring. Is that an attack on Conroy Architecture’s skill, imagination or workmanship? Not in the least, it is an opinion, a panel of architecurally apt individuals, as well as individuals with extensive planning and urban design knowledge deemed the project worthy of the award. Doesn’t mean I like it though. Likewise, similar panels found reason to award the likes of 21 Lavitts Quay, CityQuarter, Mahon Point, Victoria Mills…and so on. Does it mean you have to like it? Nope. Frank McDonald’s opinion is valid, it’s the otherside of the coin, but there is a line that must be thread – notably in his argument, Mr. McDonald went for expressing his opinion to borderline attack. Where people may not see this is perhaps because they are unfamiliar with the context. I happen to like 21 Lavitts Quay for example, I think Patrick Cashman & Associates provided an interesting variance in shape, height and materials shielding what is generally accepted as something of an eyesore – give me 21 Lavitts Quay any day of the week. In fact, I hope similar imagination and scale is applied to the future OCP effort at 16 Lavitts Quay – obviously with respect to the PS. It will bring continuity and variance to the quayside – one which can comfortably accommodate such scale, and prior to that one which was a mismatch of structural heights, qualities (dereliction) and gaping spaces which brought an air of inconsistency and ill care to the quayside. As for MQ, would I like to see the facades enhanced? Yes – but I still think MQ was a helluva positive development for Cork and I don’t think the disdain displayed by some toward it is worthy in the context. It’s easy for us to do so from our comfortable position now. As far as that goes, let me just say Eden Quay, Dublin – and that’s a product of our modern day, or perhaps the former Jurys in Waterford…. but this is not a comparitive, what is interesting to me is why in an article suppose to be related to the progress of architecture in Cork of recent times (in and around Cork2005) did Mr. McDonald feel the need to cite various developments as far back as 1989 to compound his argument? Mr. McDonald also failed to note quality and prominent architectural additions such as Camden Court, Coppinger Court or the redevelopment of the Kino?

    Referring to Mr. O’Callaghan’s reply as ‘arrogant’ I think is somewhat arrogant in itself – I’m not critiquing anyone’s personal character here – but I’m simply saying that his reply, as far as I’m concerned is a clear indication of how importantly held his work is to him. It’s easy for cynics to cite ‘money grabbing’ etc etc – it’s an easy stereotype – the stereotype of politicians is corrupt, architects as arrogant, models as bimbos, Americans as obnoxious, the Irish as alcoholic red-heads dressed in green…but of course these are only stereotypes and you know as well as I do that these perceptions fall short greatly. Some of the nicest most decent people I know are architects, politicians and well, as for models – unfortunately I don’t know enough! :p The point I’m trying to make is that it’s an unfair generalisation and I am impressed that Mr. O’Callaghan felt so strongly that he did reply, it is clear that he feels passionately about his work and of his home. I think that’s a very good positive. Well done.

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