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Participantlexington wrote:😮 Wednesday, June 28th 2006 – that’s the expected date for a decision by An Bord Pleanala regarding Frinailla Developments plans for Dennehy’s Cross. The scheme of 163 mixed residential units, commercial/community facilities and triple-deck basement car-parking designed by O’Mahony Pike Architects was first lodged with Cork City Council on the 30th September 2005 and granted on the 14th February 2006 subject to a reduction of 7 apartments from the northern block. The scheme garnered praise from numerous sources and was favourably commented on in the planner’s final report. Despite this, an appeal was brought against the renewal project – Frinailla too appealed conditions including those related to contribution fees on a first party basis. Though the final decision date may waiver, subject to ABP decision, the project should begin works come October 2006 when the Dennehy’s Cross site formally hands over to the developers. A further application is expected as part of a 2nd phase on the Dennehy’s Cross Garage showrooms at the south-west end of the crossroads later this year.Work is due to begin on Frinailla’s site at Dennehy’s Cross (subject to ABP appeal) in October, but only on the site now occupied by the panel beating shop (Magazine Road).
I am told that Top Car is to occupy the remainder of the site on a temporary basis until the Blarney Motor Mall is ready. Work on the main part of the Dennehy’s garage will therefore be pushed forward to 2007 (April at the earliest)kite
Participant@lowrise wrote:
In connection with victoria cross area , could any enlighten me as to whats happening to topcar garage at orchard road.thanks.
The family that bought the Top Car site has approached residents living on Orchard Road to get a bigger footprint in the area. One resident agreed a sale but the new owners of Top Car delayed signing final contracts until the ABP outcome on the heating and plumbing site nearby, the contracts on what I hear is a large site have now completed and the owners are following up on other purchase possibilities in the area.
(Also see Lex’s post 2072 page 83 for more info on this)kite
Participant@POM wrote:
I don’t think the building projects are direct labour. O’Flynn Banteer Builders are working on both sites for the developer.
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What I meant by direct type labor is that Tom McCarthy’ Mills development and his and Tom Kelly’s Kingsley development are been directed by their own management team.
Any snags or penalties fall back on the owners, not the builder, engineers etc. An unusual way of doing business on developments of this size I would think?kite
Participant@Lincoln wrote:
Mill on Fr Matthew Quay development: “Jacobs “Mill
what a horror show-! surely this does not conform to the conditions of planning! I believe that Murray O Laoire Architects who prepared the planning permission for the mill have had no involvement in the construction of the hotel buildng and that there is effectively no professional guidance on the project other than the structural engineer! this is like the bad ol’ days when the architect was regarded as only good enough to get the planning and then is not required when you have to build it .
They should be injuncted and forced to build as per the planning conditions – this building is too important and prominent to let a developer get away with such shoddy treatment of our city fabric.
😮 I agree that Murray O Laoire Architects seem to be redundant in the redevelopment of the Jacobs Mill site.
Tom McCarthy and Tom Kelly are taking the same “direct labor†type approach to the Kingsley hotel redevelopment, again with disastrous results.
It must be embarrassing for Murray O Laoire, or any other professional company to have their names linked in any way with this type of development, (that said, wasn’t it a “professional†body that gave Victoria Mills an award last year?)kite
Participant@ISI wrote:
From Lexinton’s blog spot. This was the ‘vision’.
“Developer Tom McCarthy and his wife Michelle McCarthy are devising plans to convert their Jacob’s Mill development to use as a luxury 5-star 35-bedroom boutique hotel. The former mill has lain idle along Father Matthew Quay for almost 45-years and is currently being rejuvenated by contractors O’Flynn of Banteer on Mr. McCarthy’s behalf. The refurbishment design is being handled by Murray O’Laoire Architects with G+A Architects handling interior designs. The redevelopment was originally scheduled to accommodate apartment usage, however a subsequent application will seek a change of use to hotel operations – and the conversion of plans to accommodate 35 bedrooms. It is believed the 20 space parking structure will be retained. The hotel is earmarked to be titled ‘Jacob’s Country House Hotel’.
Could Tom and Michelle explain where white PVC comes in?
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The Midas touch seems to have deserted Tom McCarthy at the moment, his Kingsley Hotel project is gone down “UGLY Street†as well as Jacobs Mills.kite
Participant@who_me wrote:
God, between the PVC windows and that awful roof, could they possibly have done a less sympathetic job on the place? I’d have expected a higher standard, especially given it’s location in one of Cork’s “signature views”, with Parliament bridge and the Holy Trinity church in the background.
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Good Planning practice
X quality materials = Reasonable profits
Sympathy to existing buildingsAs opposed to…..
Bad Planning practice
X cheap materials = Massive profits +??
Not giving a damm to existing build structure(sorry, the copy and paste above did not come out as i tought it would)
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ParticipantABP overturned the decision of their Inspector and granted permission to Messrs Crowley and Paul to develop Riverside Farm on the Model Farm Road.
Cumnor Construction saw the overturning of an ABP inspector as well today to allow them develop the old convent site at the Ramparts, Kinsale.
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Participant@theblimp wrote:
Just a little interesting add-on to my earlier comments. This year’s Live at the Marquee has moved, I understand, from the Showgrounds to Howard Holding’s recently acquired ‘Ford Site’ alongside. Now my sources could be incorrect (although I doubt it) but it is ALLEGED that Mr. Gavin was one of the parties involved in convincing Aikens that such a move would be in their interests (It is BELIEVED that JG negotiated the HH site for Aikens at no cost, whereas the Showgrounds would have involved a payment), thus removing a valuable cash injection to a voluntary organisation, and aiding a commercial developer at the same time – all at a VERY interesting time in that part of the city. IF true, then perhaps my earlier comments could be viewed in a more informed light !
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The same names seem to crop up in Cork time and time again theblimp.
I share your concerns…enough said!!kite
Participant@Thomond Park wrote:
Back on the agenda and it would appear that the Ringer is representing the views of some if not many of his constituents
While Local Authority planning departments and ABP have there faults I would have to agree with Mr.Bell that the proposed legislation would set a dangerous benchmark for planning in this Country.
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ParticipantToday’s Irish Examiner carries a story about the possibility of the Mercy and South Infirmary/ Victoria hospitals relocating to another site freeing up their present locations for other uses.
Any ideas on what would be developed on these sites?
What developer is involved in the land swap/relocation deal?
Would the Mercy site suit UCC for campus expansion?kite
ParticipantThomond Park wrote:I would have prefered to see this issue parked up for a week or two but must take issue that Haughey did any injustice to his colleagues]I agree, as an ex member of the FF party who resigned some time after CJH became leader I will be more than happy to discuss his political career, but wait until next week guys, please?
RIP.kite
Participant😎 Cork city Manager, Mr.Joe Gavin signed a compulsory purchase order last Thursday for the Cork Showgrounds plus a number of acres to the rear of Parc Ui Caoimh.
CCC as landlords wish to recover these lands to help kick-start the Docklands developments. The lands, if the CPO is successful will be used for a number of amenity purposes but not a convention centre as the managers preferred site for such a centre remains the site at Kent Station.kite
Participant😉 My fourth time posting this, POST removed last 3 occasions. other posters BEWARE!!
Any idea what is going on your website Paul, 2 of my posts on this thread deleted… another altered???
Nothing to do with Archiseek.com I am sure, just some maverick acting the clownkite
Participant😉 My fourth time posting this, POST removed last 3 occasions. other posters BEWARE!!
Any idea what is going on your website Paul, 2 of my posts on this thread deleted… another altered???
Nothing to do with Archiseek.com I am sure, just some maverick acting the clownkite
Participant😎 The Cork Docklands Economic Study reports that the co-location of a third level institution in the Docklands will enhance the opportunity for employers to forge links with third level institutions.
While these links would be built and strengthened by both UCC and CIT, the actual presence of a third level campus would help promote the area to investors.
A 120,000m2 campus would accommodate of the order of 7,870 students along with academic, technical and administrative staff in the Docklands. This would enhance the demand for residential and other commercial uses in the area. It would also add to the vibrancy of the Docklands during both the day and night time.
The development of a campus is an immediate demand of UCC and thus could be potentially developed within the short to medium term. If located in the Docklands, then it would act to accelerate the development of the area.kite
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Participant:confused: Is Cork going to have a lame duck manager for the foreseeable future?
John Tierney has been offered the job of Dublin City Manager.kite
Participantbosco wrote:Cork is really getting screwed from every angle. I’ve often wondered why the three airports had such a poor web presence, but lately it appears that the DAA website and those of Dublin and Shannon airports have been completely redesigned. Cork airport’s website however is still the shambles it has been for years.😡 Something needs to be done about the fiasco that is Cork Airport and the CAA.
At the height of the summer season Easy Jet and Ryanair are pulling flights out of Cork.
Today’s Irish Examiner reports that]http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=5651-qqqx=1.asp[/url]On the subject of websites, check out the Cork website compared to one of its connected airports, Nice, France.
Someone has to be accountable for the embarrassment that is Cork Airport, heads should roll??http://www.cork-airport.com/AR_Cork/live/Lv_pres_GenTemplate.asp?strPage_Name=CK_Home
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ParticipantDid Joe Gavin get the Dublin City manager job?, was at a meeting all afternoon so i did not get to hear any news.
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Participant@Pug wrote:
if Joe doesnt get it does he has to leave the Cork job anyway? its not exactly a tribute to his enthusiasm for applying to leave is it? Nice salary for the Dublin job though, €150,000 to €200,000. And the other final candidate he is up against is the guy that took over from him in galway when he moved to cork!
more scarily, does anyone have a top 3 candidates to take over from Joe in Cork?
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The Cork City Managers job will be advertised by the Public Appointments Commission if or when Joe Gavin departs Cork.
The frontrunner to succeed him within City Hall would be Dan Buggy; it would be difficult to see anyone else in the City Hall getting the job.
I would like to see ex Dublin City Manager John Fitzgerald returning to Cork as manager if he is not going to retire fully from public life; he did wonders for Dublin over the past few years.- AuthorPosts
