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Participant@Micko wrote:
Could someone settle this arguement.
I make off that years ago, maybe 40 years ago, to travel from Cork to Midleton you would first have to go into Glanmire, over the hump back bridge beside the AIB and up the back of the Water Resevoir and end up at thee back of the present IBIS hotel.
It was only years later that a bridge was built at the glanmire roundabout which allowed you to get to where the IBIS hotel is today.
😀 As I remember the route from Cork to Midleton; McCurtin St. pass Kent Station, pass the Silversprings Hotel (now Moran’s) to the Elm Tree pub, skew bridge, past Youghal Carpets factory….next stop Moby Dicks in Youghal (hic) circa 1971-2
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Participant@daniel_7 wrote:
thats a disgrace! they seem to be really worried about the lack of short break tourism in the city alright ! They go and turn one of the most central prime units on the main shooping street in the city into a bank? Theres no justification for that, especially when there is numerous new developments lying vacent for this type of use and a need for good retail space in the city centre and they go and do that, cant get over that decision!But back to before the change of use, everyones always saying that theres not enough big premises for the big names in the city centre and this was a good example of a prime unit and was lying vacent for months and still not taking over, can anyone explain this? Everyone has there own opinion but I just cant come to an answer , theres plenty of perfect units around that are just simply not been taking over and i dont see this happening in other cities like dub, lim or galway!? take lapps quay,lavits quay, camden quay,gearges quay,hickeys on maylor st and evan mahon point? :confused:
:confused: Just what is happening with Hickeys on Maylor St?
City Manager, Joe Gavin explaining the 23% increase in vacant space in the city centre mentioned that the considerable floor space in Hickeys was giving a skewed view of vacancies in the city yet nothing has been reported on this site in recent times.
Am I correct in recalling that Brideview Developments had an interest in the site?kite
Participant@rebel_city wrote:
On a seperate note – a few posts back I mentioned the use of boardwalks on the quays in Cork – like in Dublin – would be good. Yesterday in Dublin I was walking up town from work and I took the boardwalk route (usually go a different way), it was an experience to say the least! I had to walk past a few groups of people who were eh… a bit intimidating! I was thinking this is majorly dodge! Then on the news this morning, and also on eveningecho.ie, there was a report that the Gardai are cracking down on anti-social behaviour and drug dealing on the Dublin boardwalks! Supposedly over the past few months they have gone down hill big time! Meant to be used to regenerate the city centre and for tourists but that hasn’t gone to plan! Just thought I’d bring it up! 😮
😮 Had the “pleasure” of walking the boardwalk in Dublin last June in the company of a 6’6″ member of the Gardai. It was not an experience i would care to repeat with or without his company.
Until the bleeding hearts brigade are sorted and these “ladies and gents are fed to the fish in the liffey, or locked up Irish cities will never have the luxury of being truly European.kite
ParticipantCelebrated and Controversial Architect Will Alsop to Speak in Cork
“Creating buildings and spaces that continue to give pleasure in the future is one of our responsibilities [as architects].†Will AlsopAvant garde architect Will Alsop, whose distinctive and controversial buildings provoke opposing reactions from critics, his fellow architects and the general public, is sure to trigger vigorous debate when he speaks in Cork this autumn. The British architect will explore the process of architecture as an act of change in his lecture as part of the Creating a Cultural City Lecture Series in Millennium Hall, Cork on Tuesday 17 October 2006 at 7pm.
Presented by the Cork City Council Arts Office, the Creating a Cultural City Lecture Series seeks to encourage an investigation into the role of culture in cities and the creative capacity of urban spaces. Established in 2004, the series has already hosted an impressive array of speakers to date including Charles Landry, Constantin Chiriac, Franco Bianchini and Professor Sir Peter Hall and continued earlier this year with independent arts producer and co-founder of the London International Festival of Theatre (Lift), Lucy Neal. It is hoped that the lectures series will engage cultural practitioners; the wider cultural community; urban planners; business, civic and political leaders and the general public in debating the role and potential of creativity in our cities.
Will Alsop is one of the most prominent UK architects. His practice is an international operation guided by the principle that architecture is both a vehicle and symbol of social change and renewal. The philosophy extends from the design of individual buildings to embrace broader principles of urbanism and city development. Alsop follows a parallel path as an artist, feeling that it is a discipline inseparable from architecture. He was a tutor of sculpture at Central St. Martins College of Art & Design, London, for several years, has held many other academic posts, and actively promotes the artistic contribution to the built environment.
The lecture by Will Alsop is the first of two lectures in October presented by the Cork City Council Arts Office with support from the Arts Council of Ireland. Details of the second lecture will be announced in the coming weeks. Admission to the lectures is free.
Further information is available from The Arts Office, Cork City Council on 021 492 4298 or via email at arts@corkcity.ie.
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Participant@Radioactiveman wrote:
So, maybe a defeat for proper planning, but at least they paid some attention to the architectural merit of the building by refusing the boring new limestone shopfront and conserving the original features.

😮 I agree with your comment “a defeat for proper planning”
Just how dull and boring do our city fathers want Patrick St. to be?kite
Participant@THE_Chris wrote:
Its the manhole covers. They keep breaking and the concrete around them needs replacing every few months.
Believe it or not, Im not joking about this.
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Thanks The_Chris, I was wondering what the problem was this time.
This sounds like the same problem that closed the tunnel within 2 months of it opening in 1999. I remember inshore fishermen at the time (before the tunnel was built) saying this would happen as the tunnel would be built in tidal waters, they were dismissed as fools by the engineers involved in the project.:oA demand from Cork City Councillors for an update on the condition of the Jack Lynch tunnel dated 9th Feb.2004, Motion 10.9 brought the following response from city management;
“The condition of the Jack Lynch tunnel is excellent. There is no structural damage to the tunnel.
The tunnel is closed for 2 nights every three months for regular maintenance. The last closure was 8th – 9th January 2004. Apart from routine maintenance closures, there are no plans to close the Jack Lynch tunnelâ€Who is telling porkies???:p
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Participant@THE_Chris wrote:
THE LOBBY BAR
🙂 Ah yes, forgot about that, remember going there on many occasions…can’t ever remember leaving.
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Participant@THE_Chris wrote:
But the flyover is a big, big help. Will be interesting though to see how quickly the tunnel snarls up once the schools go back.
😡 That tunnel is turning out to be one big Irish JOKE, mainland Europe is littered with tunnels and most Countries would use a guillotine on whoever is responsible for closing one on such a regular basis.
What is the problem with the tunnel?
Has the guarantee run out or are Walls still responsible for defects?
Will this “maintenance schedule†become more regular with age?
Will the taxpayer have to foot the repair bill if, (when) defects are found outside the warranty period?
Does anyone care; after all public money is there to be wasted!! 😉kite
Participant🙁 Apologies for going off topic but the loss of Roches Stores started me thinking what was lost to Cork over the years, and what replaced same.
My top five would be;
Smiths Stores, now Gentleman’s Quarters
Cudmore’s, now Vodafone
Munster Arcade, now Penny’s
Pavilion Cinema, now HMV
Woodford Bourne, now McDonalds
Anything to add to this?kite
Participant@rebel_city wrote:
Wow! Those pics look great! Can’t believe it got planning permission! I hope the stalls on the street are upgraded and maybe some of the English market co’s operating stalls there too! We’ll wait and see! The whole of town will have a great feel to it – from Emmet Place / Academy St – Paul St, all the lanes onto Patrick Steet down to the Grand Parade / Emmet Place & Cornmarket Street! Can’t wait! 🙂
😎 The photos are great. I believe that CCC have plans to increase by way of license the number of stalls on the Coal Quay as well as requiring those already present to upgrade.
Should be one of the best streets in Cork when finished.kite
ParticipantThe appeal against the decision made on the 16th December, 2005 by Cork City Council to grant permission to Grangefield Developments Limited for the construction of two bedroom apartments to the ground floor as an alteration to a permitted development has been refused by ABP.
It was considered that the proposed development, which involves the loss of the proposed landscaped courtyard which was an integral part of the development permitted under planning register TP 04/28014, would deprive the overall development scheme of adequate, convenient, effective and usable private open space and would as a result constitute a substandard form of development for future occupants.kite
Participant@anto wrote:
stop building all these houses in Ballincollig & CarrAIGALINE that will cut down on all these commuters using the roads! They should all live in high rise apartments in the Docklands.! Yeah, like that’s going to happen!
IF the Docklands is designed and planned properly, something that seems to be back on track now that the City Manager is once again focused on Cork people will jump at the chance to live there. However allowing only a select few developers the inside track with the planners will lead to a planning disaster in the Docklands…a level playing field please CCC ?
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Participant@Pug wrote:
change will only come from progressive political will and as i mentioned before, when a local td congratulates a flyover for being 10 years late – we are doomed. Railways are joke, light rail in Cork between all the major suburbs wont happen within 10 years so I argue that more frequent smaller buses on QBC’s, with an integrated bus/rail ticket system, to designated transport hubs at the edge of the city is the only option left. For cycling etc, companies would have to buy into it to put in showers etc and car pooling would be hugely beneficial and very do-able with a bit of push from the govt and a tax credit or something for the company but with someone like Dick Roche at the helm (he who wouldnt have an incinerator in his constituency but doesnt mind one in ours), not a hope.
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For a city to ADMIT in it’s City Development Plan that, “Green Bus Routes shall be dedicated traffic lanes where feasible†speaks volumes for the brains behind planning public transport in Cork. God help us one and all.kite
Participant@jdivision wrote:
Anybody else wondering whether the awarding of the U2 tower construction project is already a done deal? Just think about what was due to be built next to it and how that is no longer mentioned even though it has planning permission.
😉 Planning in Ireland eh? Money talks.:D…or walks,,to Holland.
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Participant@Pug wrote:
will debenhams now move out of mahon point? hardly sustainable to have city and suburb is it? unless they lease the majority of town out to other brands maybe – but they sort of do that already.
:confused: What now for the expantion of the Wilton Centre and the Howard Holdings / Mr. J.O’Ds plans to redevelop the overpriced (when they bought it) site. Tesco are said to be stand alone independents on the East side of the site but rumour was that Howard/ O’D had bought the rest INCLUDING Roches ??
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Participant@corkdood wrote:
Thank you for that. I had thought that it was going to be a private development. Didn’t Coleman Brothers get permission for some housing in the area?
Coleman’s are building the affordable housing with the entrance at the junction of Blarney / Harbour View Road, the affordable housing entrance is planned 200mtrs to the East opposite the GAA club on Blarney Road.
A 10 – 15% ratio is planned ie. 200+ affordable / 20-30 social mix.kite
ParticipantPaul Clerkin wrote:Docks tower could rise higher
Frank McDonald, Environment Editor
A competition for the tower was jointly sponsored in 2003 by the authority and U2, whose new recording studio is to be on top of it. This will replace their old studios in a warehouse on Hanover Quay, which is to be demolished.😮 Whatever about the pros or cons of the U2 tower does anybody feel that knocking the old recording studio on Hanover Quay is akin to knocking the Cavern in Liverpool or the Sun Studio in Memphis?
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Participant@corkdood wrote:
Sorry for going off topic here but i am curious about a development that appears to be beginning on the Blarney Road just at the junction with Harbour View Road in Hollyhill there appears to be a new site entrance and earth moving work in progress. Is this to be a residential development?
The 200+ affordable houses under construction behind Our Lady’s hospital are to be complemented by some social housing units built by CCC with the entrance along the Blarney Road across from the Harbour View Road junction. Traffic lights are planned at this junction to ease traffic.
I think this may be the development you mentioned in your post.kite
Participant@a boyle wrote:
mr kite would you be flying if the train went direct in an hour and a half ?
😮 Nope, point taken.
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ParticipantAngry Rebel wrote:😡
Bullshit. I’ve regularly flown for 1 cent (plus taxes). Even the more expensive fares are better value that Citygold. You can get a seat with Ryanair for next Wednesday (I’d call that reasonably short notice for 9.99 each way. You don’t get allocated a specific seat, but you won’t be sitting in the aisle like our poor rail travellers.:rolleyes: I’m booked on ryanair next Wens. 9th Aug. to Dublin, FR9844 @ 9.15 returning on FR9847 @ 17.15, the cost 163.34 !!
Are the 1 cent flights advertised elsewhere?:confused:- AuthorPosts
