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A week on from the demolition of the NBA flats in Togher Cork City Manager Joe Gavin is close to securing a deal with Brideview developments to purchase an entire estate for social and affordable housing.
The 72 unit estate is located on land at Palmgrove, Togher Road.
Brideview had bought the site with planning and had intended building a private estate on site.

@publicrealm wrote:

I’m afraid it’s not accurate.

See my previous post: Consent = Officials [not Councillors] (and confers NO rights whatsoever – other than the right to make a valid planning application).

Therefore (am I labouring this somewhat??) the granting of PP does not require any agreement relating to land ownership – only CONSENT to make the planning application from the land owner (which can be provided by the Officials etc etc.)

Invalidation simply does not arise.

Also I would be very surprised if DCC had any intention of ceding public land in this case.

I agree with you.
We had a case in Cork recently where a question was asked of the City Manager (and the city law agent) to clarify whether or not a third party without legal title, beneficial ownership or rights to a site could apply for planning independent of the rightful owner.

The managers and the law agent advised (rightly or wrongly) that any person can apply for permission, have it validated, and a decision made by the LA, BUT the grant of permission could not be acted on without the consent of the legal owner of the site.

@A-ha wrote:

What are they playing at….. 2010? They can’t be serious. And forgive my ignorance, but I thought work had already started. They’ve been announcing it so much I just assumed work had got under way. What a disappointment!

😮 I also thought that work was well underway with this rail line, so much so that I checked back on this thread before posting the article from the Irish Independent.
Just goes to show that political spin does work, and Minister Cullen is an expert on same.

😮 Tensions have arisen since Christmas between city management and major stakeholders in the docklands area due to the complete lack of movement there over the past years.
Stakeholders have gone over the heads of city management in recent weeks with approaches to Government members to have the development in the area fast tracked, this along with discontented rumblings in the local press has forced city management to assure stakeholders that “when”? the CPO is confirmed on the Showgrounds the city will be in a position to plough ahead with this jewel in Cork’s crown.
City Hall are desperate to ensure that the planning of the docklands does not fall out of their control.

🙂 City management has decided to play hardball with developers who do not complete works to a level so that the CCC can take the areas in charge.
City Manager, Joe Gavin has indicated his intention to call in Development Bonds to pay for unfinished works after a period of 2 years past the completion due date.

🙂 Businessman, Mr.Pat Dineen should take a bow after selling St.Luke’s Church last week to the city for the same price he paid for it in 2003 (690,000euro)

😮 Following Cllr. Brian Bermingham’s efforts to “unstraighten” Patrick’s Hill and install a cable car from “The summit to Patrick’s Street, and up again” (where else would it go?) he is now proposing that the Wilton Pub be listed as a Protected Structure.

😎 Cork City manager, Joe Gavin is to seek approval from Councillors on Monday night to purchase St. Lukes Church for the sum of 690,000 euro.
The manager was working behind the scenes for the past few months to purchase the Church from the individual who bought it in 2003. The price to be paid is the same as the purchase price in 2003.
Joe Gavin is currently negotiating with the owners of lands on nearby Mahony’s Avenue to provide a city park as part of the regeneration of the St.Lukes area.

:rolleyes: Cllr.B.Bermingham’s inclusion on an all expenses paid junket to San Francisco seems to have gone to his head, he wants to “unstraighten” Patrick’s Hill and make it like Lombard Street.
Quote; ”Often billed as the “crookedest street,” “Lombard Street is San Francisco’s- and America’s best known crookedest street. The steep, hilly street was created with sharp curves to switchback down the one-way hill past beautiful Victorian mansions, [built with eight switchbacks on a 40-degree slope]”. The street is paved with bricks and is an amazing site to see. Hordes of tourists come every year to see this famous street”

He also wants, “The Installation of the unique San Francisco’s Cable Car from a suitable location in St. Patrick Street to the summit and return.’

All this from a Councillor that is incapable of getting a pothole filled, Fine Gael must be very proud?

🙂 Remember T&C Partnership 5-8 Blackmore Lane, Sullivans Quay from past posts on this therad?Cork City Council in accordance with Section 48 of the Planning act are to institute court proceedings against them for the recovery of planning contributions.

Irish Examiner Sean O’Riordan

AN 80-acre site at Lynch Camp in Kilworth, Co Cork, is the preferred site for a super-prison, Justice Minister Michael McDowell said yesterday.

Mr McDowell and senior officials from several government departments toured part of the army camp yesterday. The minister said he viewed the site in Kilworth as being a far better location than Spike Island, which was first designated as the spot for a prison likely to hold 400 inmates.

The minister said Cork prison was overcrowded and was not up to the modern standards required. He added that it was difficult keeping it drug-free because it was in the city and this problem could be curtailed within a jail located in a rural area.

Mr McDowell indicated that Limerick prison also had its inadequacies and he believed it was more suitable for short-stay prisoners than those serving lengthy sentences.

Senator John Minihan, who toured the greenfield site with the minister, said he believed a decision to build a super prison near the village of Kilworth would lead to the downgrading of Limerick and Cork jails, and even the possibility that the one in Cork could be closed altogether.

Mr McDowell said there had been a lot of objections to reopening Spike Island, especially as locals wanted to preserve its heritage and he added that it would take €20 million to build a new bridge into that prison.

“I believe the site at Kilworth is up there. It will be near a major trunk route and the land is also in State ownership,” Mr McDowell said.

The Department of Defence owns about 1,600 acres there and handing 80 acres of it over to the Department of Justice will not interfere with any military activities.

Junior Minister for Enterprise and Employment, Michael Ahern, said he believed that a sod-turning ceremony on the site would happen within a year. Meanwhile, local politicians said they also supported the move.

Councillor John Murphy said he thought it would rejuvenate the local economy following announcements of major job losses at BUPA and FCI.

Councillor Liam O’Doherty said the public were in favour of it but needed to be consulted on an ongoing basis.

“I think that first option [on manning the jail] will go to prison officers who relocated in other jails when Spike Island closed down. They will be able to return to their own area.

“There are likely to be hundreds of jobs during construction and there will be many jobs created through local spin-offs for servicing contracts, Mr Minihan said.

Traffic problems in the vicinity of the CUH in Wilton are due to go from bad to worse if the Cork Fire Services / Health and Safety concerns for the new basement car park adjacent to the new maternity unit are not resolved.
It seems that the ceiling height and access are adequate for a stand alone car park but the high dependency nature of the maternity unit and the logistics of evacuation were not factored in at the design / planning stage.
It looks as if the car park will remain closed for the foreseeable future.

@Praxiteles wrote:

Does anyone know what happened to the famous knitted map of Cork?

:rolleyes: It’s been mothballed and stored in a top secret location in Cork that even the Irish Examiner cannot be told about despite requests from hacks.
City Manager, Joe Gavin is due to send this highlight of Capital of Culture 2005 on an all expenses tour of the United States of America in May of this year. 😮

Permission was granted for the redevelopment of Musgrave Park.
The entire residential element of the proposal was refused by planners, this will prevent the anticipated clash between anti apartment councilors and city planners.

@Pug wrote:

decision on musgrave park extension to rugby ground due tomorrow

I hope permission is granted in this case as the road network makes Musgrave Park ideal for redevelopment i.e. unusually wide roads within 300 meters from the south link.
I won’t hold my breath though as some Councillors are threatening to overturn the decision by city planners (if granted) by using provisions of the Local Government Act. This could open a can of worms for planners and the city manager that they may feel would be best left closed.

On a slightly related matter, Cllr. Tim Brosnan is to ask the Manager tonight to reveal the amount outstanding to CCC from development levies.
He is also asking to have all developers who owe sums in excess of 25,000 euro named.