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The buildings at the North End (Cobblestone included) are all going to be demolished from what I’ve heard.
I think there’s a huge difficulty with the “City Council” houses as it’s a much larger estate than it looks at first. There’s a lot more houses right in behind and a good few of them have fallen into the hands of “private owners”. Not surprising considering the going price is a scarcely believable E485,000.
http://www.propertyshop.ie/printID.asp?id=164618I also think if you go to this extraordinary amount of trouble, it should have some utilitarian aspect and have more than just two stops and two cars. Other cable car systems, for instance New York’s Roosevelt Island system or Barcelona’s, cater for both tourists and local residents.
It’s quite easy to still charge high prices to non-residents (a la the boats in Venice) by having regular users apply for a travel card of some description. I’ve been on both of the cable car systems I mentioned above, and think part of their charm is that ordinary people can use them.
The people behind this have also gone to quite a bit of effort to ensure the pylons are at the most visually uninteresting parts of the quays, which I think is important.
And speaking of gimmicks, what ever happened to the plan to float a balloon above the Liffey. That seems to have sunk without a trace, and like this one, was being endorsed by Frank McDonald.
Anyway, in conclusion, I’d be in favour of the plan but I think the number of trams should be doubled or trebled and there should be at least one more stop.dAnd the story that goes along with it:
Plan for cable car attraction on Liffey
Frank McDonald and Ruadhan Mac Eoin
Saturday, February 4
A private consortium is proposing to develop a cable car service along the Liffey Quays in Dublin, running between Heuston Station and Docklands.
The cable cars would transport sightseers at heights approaching 80 metres (264ft) above the river from the Guinness Brewery near Heuston to a terminal located near the planned national conference centre at Spencer Dock.
Aimed primarily at the tourism market, the cable cars would give people a birds-eye view of many of Dublin’s landmarks, including the Custom House, the Four Courts, St James’ Gate Brewery and the National Museum at Collins Barracks.
Each of the four cable cars would have capacity for 25 people and the duration of a trip in either direction would be around 20 minutes.
It is anticipated that most passengers would travel by cable car one-way and make their return by other means.
Currently the ticket price is estimated at €15, which the promoters say compares “very favourably” to other attractions such as the London Eye which costs over €17 per visit.
The €52 million project, which is headed by Dublin property developer Barry Boland, would involve erecting four giant steel towers – two of them significantly taller than Liberty Hall and the other two almost as high – along the three kilometre route.
The towers, designed by architects McGarry NWhat’s interesting too, in light of the decision to move the Abbey up to the IFSC, is that this site was never even mentioned as a possiblity. I think it would have been a far superior location.
The wrecking crew have been brought in and the Fish Markets are gone. The whole site has been cordoned off so looks like significant progress on this redevelopment at last.
I think it’s a hugely important project and hopefully it will help widen the city towards the Four Courts and Smithfield.New York is jampacked with icons: Chrysler Building, Brooklyn Bridge, Grand Central Station, Times Square, Rockefeller Plaza, UN headquarters, the Trade Centre was another.
Others: City Hall in Philadelphia. St Mark’s Square in Venice. Ponte Vecchio or the Duomo in Florence. Pulteney Bridge in Bath, Clyde Bridge in Glasgow. The Guggenheim in Bilbao might be the most modern world city icon of all. Or alternatively that winking bridge in Newcastle.
I think it’s impossible to look past the Ha’penny Bridge as Dublin’s icon. And it’s nothing to be ashamed of.The Boardwalk is also being let go to rack and ruin. It’s unbelievably dirty and the docking point for the new boat is particularly bad. They’ve dumped a huge concrete block on it presumably because it would sink otherwise. The level of graffiti on the seating beggars belief and the only water the surface wood sees is rain. It makes you look at the tourists sometimes and say what the hell are you doing here – why didn’t you go somewhere nice.
Those road signs on St Stephen’s Green will actually never be used because of the change in traffic flows in the area. It just sums the city up in so many ways.The entire sweep of the city centre from the hill beside the Magazine Fort in the Phoenix Park is for my money the best view in Dublin. Also, Christchurch from the Quays always looks well, particularly past the subtle arch of the City Council offices.
I would stick with something very similar to the existing scheme.
Anything cream or white would get dirty very quickly and needless to say would not be cleaned.Holton, I suppose the issue is whether you consider the eight miles to Dublin Airport a “few miles” or not.
And even still, you would be amazed at how much of this Northern Fringe land you are talking of is currently zoned for housing.
Anything further out than Dublin Airport is only contributing to the sprawl as far as I’m concerrned, particularly when it is not near a rail line, ie most everywhere.
I don’t mean to be pedantic but in terms of a “few miles” from Dublin City, ie three or four – there is very little green space bar the public parks.@asdasd wrote:
drive to Blancherdstown.
I do regularly. Where’s the green belt. On the left-hand side of the N3 is the Phoenix Park racecourse, which is as we speak being completely covered in apartments.
On the right-hand side, there is a narrow strip of land between the road and the canal/railway. Apart from a couple of already existing developments, it is to be home to a new overbridge road interchange, a new railway station and a park and ride facility.
The River Road, that is the back road between Blanchardstown and Finglas, is the site for Pelletstown and Rathborne already with more developments to come.Holton, there certainly aren’t plenty of “green belts” left within a few miles from Dublin.
The Phoenix Park racecourse site, to give just one example, is quickly disappearing beneath one of the worst modern developments of recent times.
Unless you propose building over the public parks, which are not the same as green belts, I really don’t see where this space you are talking about is.The site is, correct me if I’m wrong, going to be the location for a new purpose-built criminal courts complex, leaving the Four Courts for purely civil matters. No designs have been put forward and I’m not even sure if it’s been put out for tender.
Interestingly, a major site just up the road, directly across from the Department of Defence has planning permission in for a major development.
There are a couple of nice old derelict buildings on the site, all of which appear to be protected. They aren’t part of St Bricin’s Hospital but border on to it.
From what I can recall, the new development will consist chiefly of the by now ubiquitous six to seven storey apartment blocks.
A creche and a few other facilities are promised to soften it for Dublin City Council.
Between this and the demolition/redevelopment of O’Devaney Gardens confirmed over the past few days, there is going to be a lot of construction going on in this neck of the woods in the years to come.Just on a point of interest, the Lighthouse didn’t turn in to the Irish Film Institute.
That is an entirely separate state-sponsored venture.
The Lighthouse owners were looking for another site, at the time of the last Arnotts redevelopment, but with the tight margins they were operating on couldn’t find somewhere appropriate.
Last I heard, they are going to reopen in the new Smithfield development, the West Side.
Apologies for going off the point.
As regards Chapters, I wonder have Arnotts promised them premises in the new street of shops that they are going to create.
Although, they are over three floors and need a fairly sizable shop floor. You could see them move directly across the street.I saw it the other day whilst driving but didn’t get to see the Constitution Hill facade.
It actually looks great coming up past the King’s Inn and although the pictures are nice, it doesn’t do it justice.
They’ve also done a lovely job on the railings and pavings at the corner.Amn’t much help to you but I notice there seems to be a considerable amount of work going on down at the Central Bank. The entire West Side has been hoarded off for some kind of improvement works – the details of which aren’t made clear on the hoarding itself.
I would think that the “pure glass facade” is one of four particularly common forms of modern architecture in Dublin, the others being the use of wood panelling (Wooden Building, Temple Bar) and also the stone protruding facades of the National Gallery and Roches Stores. I’m sure there’s a better word for this technique. You also see it at Meeting House Square. Last but not least is the use of copper, sometimes very effectively and sometimes just as a nod to modern design.
I’d be all in favour because I think we all know that the Dublin Port Tunnel will be entirely ineffective in the absence of full interchanges on the M50 and a proper Eastern Bypass.
It’s certainly something worth thinking about although the denizens of Balbriggan probably wouldn’t be thrilled with the idea.Luas actually is regenerating that part of town. Arnotts is expanding into Independent House and will face the street properly instead of having it as a back entrance.
Capel Street has seen very significant change and buildings that were derelict there for years are now being redeveloped.
I wouldn’t want to suggest that any noteworthy development has happened yet but there is a very visible Luas effect that will not be fully apparent for five to six years.
