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ParticipantWhen I saw the models of the Spire, I always thought it was beautifully shiny and lustrous.
The most impressive thing now is that it has retained those qualities.
It’s almost exactly as Ritchie envisioned it. I hope he’s happy with the way it turned out.
The nearly final product is a vindication for all of us who have been [even if it’s only quietly] supporting this project since it was chosen.kefu
Participantyou can’t go into stephen’s green after dark. that’s my whole point – railed off and shut off parks have to be closed during night hours. if you want to have a public space open during the evening, then it has to be very open, not surrounded by the massive trees eyre square is, which make it dark and dingy. i still stand by what i said [and it has a lot to do with the pubs and fast foot places ie supermacs] eyre square is a dump
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ParticipantEyre Square is a dump. You wouldn’t walk through it after ten o’clock. The trees cast too much shadow on it and make it have a dangerous feel after dark. If any public place in Ireland needs upgrading, it’s Eyre Square.
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ParticipantI agree. If it’s not finished until February or March, so what. At least, it will finally be up. It would have been up in the Millennium year except for the wackos and the planning laws. You can’t blame City Council for that.
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ParticipantI think the buses can change the traffic lights. At certain junctions, there are sensors attached to the poles.
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ParticipantEverytime light rail links are discussed in Ireland, the only options ever mentioned are either burrowing underground or running on-street.
I’ve never once heard anybody mention the possibility of building an elevated train or of having a section like that. Paris has loads of its Metro system built on viaducts and there’s the famous L in Chicago.
Does anybody know anything about the technicalities of elevated trains – I supposed it’s probably expensive but I doubt it’s dearer than going underground.kefu
ParticipantPundit, I think you’ll find that if you read back over the various plans proposed for Dublin from the late 19th century through the early 20th century and up to 1960s, many of them did call for Metro systems and advanced traffic management schemes.
I recommend a quick perusal of Ruth McManus’s recent Dublin 1910-1940: Shaping The City & Suburbs to see just how often developments to the tram system that existed and even the possibility of an underground network were suggested.
British planners were of course in charge in 17/1800s but not during 1900s when almost all mass transportation networks were actually built. Britain can not be blamed for our present traffic problems because the planning decisions they made related to an era pre-automobile.kefu
ParticipantThe building has been very faithfully restored. All it needs now is a coat of paint, some windows and the interiors finished off. As far as the structure goes, it’s complete.
God only knows what they’re going to do with it.kefu
ParticipantHere’s a picture of it though the quality is not great.
http://www.geocities.com/historyofshirtmakinginderry/tillie.htm
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ParticipantSword of Light was a suggestion by the National Graves Association, who preserve graves, monuments to those who died for Ireland. I thought it was a fittingly elegant name for an elegant monument.
PS – Does anyone know what the Eiffel Tower was called before they decided to honour Gustave Eiffel.
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ParticipantDoes that mean they can’t come up with hilarious names like the Chime in the Slime or the Floozie in the Jacuzzi?
God forbid we should lose our marvellous sense of humour in favour of something useful?kefu
ParticipantI also have tape of it if anyone needs it
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ParticipantI think when the Spire is erected, we’ll all realise just how elegant a design it is, simple and understated. The Skytower in Auckland is not really the example we necessarily want to be following – it’s clunky and there are as already pointed out, several similar things, around the world. I doubt visitors will ever come specificially to see the Spike but I think it will become one of Dublin’s defining landmarks. Re: viewing towers – there are two good ones already in the city, one of which doesn’t even attract that many visitors.
I think a giant novelty harp would be as interesting as a 120-metre high pint of Guiness or another enormous crucifix. No doubt some people would like it but is it really the emblem we want of Dublin.kefu
ParticipantI heard Ciaran Cuffe on Newstalk saying that to get things done in Ireland, it might be preferable to have a Mussolini like-leader. I’m almost sure a Francois Mitterand comparison would have been more appropriate.
But I too wish Mussolini had been in charge when Cllr Cuffe and his sidekicks were chained to the tree on O’Connell Street.kefu
Participantyeah, but if you keep reading, it turns into a discussion about the quality of pints of Guinness
and then, and I’m the only person I know who actually likes Limerick City, there’s an argument about how much better Limerick is than Dublin.
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ParticipantIts primary function, which appears to change frequently, will be to facilitate the buses, (37, 39) that go up Manor Street, which currently go up to the next bridge to turn.
It will also serve to disperse traffic bound for the Chapelizod bypass better, or so say Dublin City Council.kefu
Participantat least the warehouse would be easier to drive/get to. maybe they could put a Luas stop beside it as well.
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ParticipantI don’t know how the government can say a conference centre is not self-financing.
Okay, you don’t get your money back directly within five years but they are worth their weight in gold.
I’ve visited a couple of places, diverse cities like Baltimore and Brighton, that seem to thrive in having decent conference centres.
In many US cities, it’s impossible to get a hotel room when they have a big conference on.
We have nothing in Dublin to attract ‘big’ conferences say with 5,000+ delegates.
I personally know Irish people in US who would love to bring events back here but can’t because of lack of facilities.kefu
ParticipantNothing excuses that type of cheap publicity stunt. It was like something from the Simpsons.
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ParticipantAccording to one article, Dub City Council got more calls from journalists about the trees than they did from concerned citizens.
Black mark against Ciaran Cuffe in particular. With his background in architecture, you would think that he could, excuse the pun, see the wood for the trees, and realise that these London Planes add absolutely nothing – and take away a lot – from the streetscape.
I think this bullshit about trees somehow being sentient witnesses to the 1916 Rising is particularly sickening. It’s exactly as GregF said, lowest common denominator stuff, which in this county inevitably involves an appeal to republicanism.
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