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@paul h wrote:
Thanks for the shay cleary link phil
Is this project approved??
[ATTACH]2810[/ATTACH]i never heard anything about this before, what is it? is’nt that on city quay? or george’s quay?
@Pepsi wrote:
the tower doesn’t look too bad in that link.
this site has been up a while…i believe the underground carpark (1500 spaces) is already under construction but i have not been near the site yet, i have just seen it from a distance. Looks very busy though and that is promising…
i seen one article in an Aussie paper claiming that U2 were building the tower as if they were financing it or worse can you imagine Bono and the boys out doing a bit of bricklaying? 😀
@The Denouncer wrote:
U2 aren’t moving to Holland, just their finances. Therefore you will see them heli-coptering on top of their tower as planned, in 2009.
Is there a helipad in the design now? i thought they had a ‘dedicated’ lift?
the U2 tower seems to be getting some unsettling press around the world – saw a few articles online about locals, and some people go as far to say ‘dubliners’ who are odjecting tower. I think it’s mad to say that a tiny group of residents objecting the tower get more press than the tower itself. I guess the only newsworthy stories are bad news. Also the fact that there is such a long-windeda debate over a 100m tower is laughable. Many cities build them unnoticed and get on with it.
Anyway i wonder if they will still build the studio on top since U2 are moving to Holland? And will they still call it the U2 tower?
We have been talking about this tower since 2002 and now it will not commence until 2008? It is only worth waiting that long for the Shanghai World Financial Centre which has taken 10 years to get off the ground…and that is almost 500M tall!!!
I dont see why there should be such a the delay between the tender deadline in October 2006 and commencing construction in 2008? 2 years? I am convinced it will be under way before then…unless they cancel the whole thing…ha ha ha@GregF wrote:
ha ha, good one ….that’s hilarious!
Hardly an apt advertisment for something supposedly to be the bees nees
thanks for the link RC…
Well it looks better than the original image…glass elevators? I like the slanted roof, (i hate flat roofs on tallish buildings)
Pity we can’t get a larger image of the rendering, to give us a proper look instead of the cartoony image on the site 🙂
@The Denouncer wrote:
They’re looking for ancient books of psalms and other religious curios
more likely bodies encased in concrete :p
did anyone see this image of both u2 and point towers?
@a boyle wrote:
i ‘ll consider it. i don’t think the local natives are particularly gratefull for every tom dick and harry going by to have a look, and these natives are particularly mobile , and. … … …
well if they’re excavating the site, i wonder who is paying for it? unless these broadsheet reports are well out of date…
@a boyle wrote:
This has me completely confused … they are currently digging the foundations for the tower . Does anybody know what is going on ?
where did you hear this? in the july 16th report on ddda.ie they were looking for developers who would focus on the street level of the tower as the nearby streets are prone to flooding, so how can the foundation be underway already if there is no developer picked?
@GregF wrote:
Very true Denouncer….we are indeed very, very conservative …..but also very careless. Pity we didn’t apply this tight arsed conservatism to the saving of the historic fabric of our cities architectural gems that have suffered over the years…… and it’s still happening today. The Dublin docks was an ideal spot and a blank canvas to have any sort of contemporary and exciting new architecture which could be viewed and admired from near and far. Instead we get toytown legoland, and another proposal of plonking a giantnormous monolith building in perhaps one of the most significant and historical parts of the city…the James ‘s St /Thomas St vicinity. These streets still have fine old 18th century type houses and instead of being restored and treated with a little bit of respect, will no doubt be botched and bulldozed to make way for yet another fucking overpriced crappy appartment scheme for upstarts buying a lifestlye which they are mind numbingly sold in the daily media.
dunno if i agree with the argument about the location, i have seen skyscrapers in London and Rotterdam work very well with their victorian or 18th century surroundings, it makes for a nice contrast of old and new…as longas its done well…i think acid rain or chewing gum has a worse affect on retaining heritage streets than a skyscraper…unless you really miss the view from ‘that angle’ 😉
Frankfurts skyline up close is truly awesome, they are soaring towers indeed. Then again, it has the muscle behind it for such towers – large banks reside there mostly. Also in Rotterdam as Europe’s largest port has a nice skyline down at its docks. This is probabely the difference between Dublin and europe’s larger skylines. Hotels also make up a large amoint of European skyscrapers which were built in the 60’s or 70’s. Ireland has only grown up really in the last decade economically and commercially but i agree we could have turned this around years ago.
Also, I don’t understand the focus on such residentail towers either, can’t we not afford to build taller office blocks? I guess the apartment market is much stronger. I mean nobody cares when they are at work if they are on 5th floor or 50th floor, When you live there, it does count. So why can’t we find large corporate tenants/hotels to fill office blocks and save our huge business parks from being built in the sticks. A modern downtown in the docks with proper rail links would have been a solution, I wonder have we blown a golden opportunity. 🙁very interesting press release from July 16th on http://www.ddda.ie
It talks about the buildings height – 100m to ‘shoulder’ with a max provision of 20m for a ‘roofscape’. This means the overall max height is 120m!
It also goes into detail on the provision of a bridge (public access), a public space, the layout options for the other unite around the site and of course the design guidelines for this ‘landmark tower’just thought i would add some skyline pics when i was in Berlin last month…
first one is postamer platz (tweeked a bit in photoshop due to bad weather)
2nd and 3rd are unknown
4th is city centre as seen from tiergarten (zoom)yes, i was taking the piss!
nice little collection there paul h
vienna and brussels suprised me when i first seen them (I think the Millenium tower is missing from the Vienna skyline there)
@The Denouncer wrote:
I’d love to see something for tourists, something 200 metres or so.
“Get the Luas to the exciting new 200 metre Yeats Tower and have a bite to eat on the 50th floor overlooking this historic literary city, whilst listening to the Abbey players as they recite some of W.B. Yeats most eclectic work.”how about closing down one of the poolbeg chimneys, repainting it and sticking a huge saucer on top a la CN tower, stick a radio antennae on top and hey presto?
@The Denouncer wrote:
Something like the 170 metre Spinnaker Tower in Portsmouth would be ideal, and I don’t believe any building in the Docks would dominate the city, however it would add and not detract from the current *cough* ‘skyline’.
ooh to think the spike could have been like that…i saw the 135 meter olympic tower (?) in Barcelona as well, which was quite impressive.
i don’t think Dublin needs any buildings higher than 32 storeys (at the moment) but its a nice leap from 5-15 storey monotony…thinking of others cities the size of Dublin, we need to aim in their direction (there are exceptions of course like Frankfurt, Rotterdam etc.)
Amsterdam’s tallest is the 135m rembrant tower
Lisbon’s tallest are two 110m residential towers (which are quite nice)
Brussels has a few tall office towers tallest is 150m and a 145m tower u/c
Birmingham’s Holloway circus that was built last year is 130mI think we are aiming for the right height here, we just need a few of them to catch up with similiar skylines
Otherwise we will have have a huge ‘landmark’ tower that will stick out like Montparnasse in Paris
Hueston gate will be 140 m to spire and is a good landmark tower for any european city of our size
The gateway to the city is also a reasonable heightHowever i do think the docks have great potential for a massive tower…and something very ‘iconic’
But lets built up to that first by going ahead with U2 tower, point village (i don’t know about you, but i’d love an apartment in EITHER tower!!!@The Denouncer wrote:
Wasn’t the U2 Tower the winner of a competition..can people on these forums post the designs they entered in the competition? Devin lets see it, post your superior entry below:
Well said, I stand by this design and i hope mit gets built. Did anyone ever see ‘Turning torso’ in Sweden? Well i did up close and its facking gorgeous, I can only hope it turns out similiar…
