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@Peter FitzPatrick wrote:
Think the National Conference Centre is to fill that spot just to the left of your picture Graham … anyone any idea of whats happening with that ?
I may have some info on that either Sunday or Monday.
@d_d_dallas wrote:
Never mind 51… how about 29, 22, 17, 15, 13, 10 and 7 storeys in height ALL ON THE SAME SITE!!!
There’s an image of it one page 10 of today’s Irish Times. Doesn’t look too bad I have to say.
@phil wrote:
In that case who are Versus? On the sign which I read it said ‘Versus Limited, Adelaide Chambers, Peter Street, Dublin 8 intend to apply for permission for development at the site known as Bolands Mills…” and so on as in the above excerpt from the online information. Are they just agents acting on behalf of the developer? I got the impression that this was the developer from the various signs around the buildings (up until this point I had thought it was owned by Treasury Holdings)
Versus is still Benton Property. Basically, a lot of developers use subsidiary companies/special purpose vehicles to apply for each individual development it undertakes. It means that if anything goes wrong and the project went south, their other assets would not be affected. So Treasury Holdings for example never applies for anything in its own name, Castlethorn rarely does, the Kellys use several different companies, Liam Carroll owns a number of companies etc. However, if you saw promotional material for each of the developments it would state that it was being developed by Treasury, Castlethorn etc. Benton is just doing the same thing.
@ewankennedy wrote:
51 storeys in the heart of Dublin?? Wow!! Surely Irelands tallest building? Any pics? I’m surprised this hasnt caused more gasps.
It will, believe me. this is first anybody heard about it. And if it has any chance of getting through expect massive revisions to P Elliott & Co’s plan for the site across the road which has two “towers” proposed, one 15 and one 16 storeys high on a larger site.
@burge_eye wrote:
the agent is RPS, anyone know who the developer is?
Sean Kelly’s Benton Property Holdings, he’s formerly of Ballymore and developer of Adelaide Square apartments in city centre and the Capel Building on capel st where gary rhodes is opening
From The Sunday Business Post last Sunday:
The South Infirmary Victoria and Mercy Hospital in Cork have held talks about a possible merger of the two facilities on a new site.As part of the process, terms of reference on the future population make-up of Cork and Kerry – where most of the hospitals’ referrals come from – are due to be agreed at a meeting this week. This will affect the eventual decision.
‘‘For the past few months, we have had discussions on the future of both hospitals, and the Health Service Executive (HSE) has been very supportive of that,” said Gerard O’Callaghan, chief executive of the South Infirmary Victoria.
Both hospitals have development plans for their existing site.
‘‘For the long term, we felt it was right to look at building a larger hospital with better services,” he said. ‘‘We would end up with a more efficient model and benefits for all sides.”
A number of developers and private-equity managers are expected to show interest in the project. They would be likely to offer to build a new hospital for the amalgamated hospitals on an agreed site and, in return, would be free to develop the sites of the existing hospitals.
The South Infirmary Victoria occupies a prime site on the Old Blackrock Road, close to the city centre and St Finbar’s hospital.
It is a teaching hospital for University College Cork and caters for both public and private patients.
It has a total capacity of 255 beds and is the third-largest acute service provider in the Cork area.
It also operates the second-largest accident and emergency department in Cork, dealing with about 30,000 patients a year.
The Mercy Hospital is on Greenville Place in Cork city centre. It was founded in 1857 by the Sisters of Mercy. It also has strong ties with University College Cork.
It is a 354-bed acute general hospital, providing in-patient, day-patient, out-patient and accident and emergency services, and is the second-largest hospital in Cork, employing 1,000 people.
@kite wrote:
@daniel_7 wrote:
does anyone know what the hold up with the new schuh store on patrick st is and in general the vacent premises on patrick st?
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Vacancy levels on Patrick St. are up 23% since April 2005 according to the Cork Economic Monitor published by CCC May 2006. Very disappointing news indeed.Lex and others have pointed out many of the reasons why vacancy levels have risen on the street but to my mind there remains another issue. Many of the units on Patrick St are no longer suitable for international retailers and the city council will have to begin to address this, be it through encouraging an amalgamation of the shops (such as in the O’Donovan scheme) or else recognising that the street needs to move in a new direction – such as indigenous boutiques or something similar. Whether they could ever afford the rent is something else!
@ewankennedy wrote:
I was walking down Market lane today into the English market and saw the big SOLD sign on the door of the Instinct bar which was said to have been bought by Joe O’Donovan for his retail scheme. I was just wondering if anyone knows whether he has bought the post office on Grand parade next to the Capital cinema as well?? It would give the Grand parade frontage a much better look as if was just the Capital the development would look lobsided when you look down Washington street and totally off considering that general heights along this side of the street run between 4 and 5 storeys except the post office which is 2 storeys and looks out of place. I hope he has could it would improve the street and views toward the street substantially.
Presuming An Post owns the building, I’m sure they’d be interested in taking a unit in the new centre plus a sizeable cash payment in return for the building, subject to planning. Think O’Donovan would be happy to do that too.
I use it every month and disagree. It depends what time you fly at – there are periods of lull and there’s periods of complete madness. As a general rule, If I compare it to other airports, the queues to check in are significantly longer and there’s not enough X ray machines used – in general at least half are unmanned. That really needs to be sorted out. I think the idea used in Istanbul of scanning bags before entering the airport is probably a good idea and should be looked at. Oh and the baggage delivery is disgraceful, and is particularly awful on Sunday nights when charter flights are coming back making the problem even worse. A 40 minute wait for bags is a joke
If that sounds too expensive, you could also just try getting a solicitor sending a letter threatening action. A solicitor’s letter for something like that costs around e120 in Dublin, probably cheaper in Kildare.
@Rory W wrote:
Thanks for that – just goes to show if you wait around long enough you can get an answer!!!:)
Sorry, didn’t even see the date on the thread!
@Rory W wrote:
What’s going to happen to the major DIT buildings like Aungier Street and Bolton Street?
They’re to be sold off
In case people missed Cork supplement in Sunday Business Post last week, second phase of Ballincollig town centre retail scheme is now in masterplanning. An additional 100,000 square feet of retail is planned, some of which will be retail warehousing. In addition, a deal has been agreed in principle with a retailer for one of the two large retail units at the Emmet Street end of O’Callaghan’s Academy St. scheme. H&M, Next, Zara and Arcadia are in talks regarding the two units. Arcadia would presumably put Top Shop in there. I wasn’t able to establish which of the retailers has signed the deal in principle – my preference would be to see H&M there and probably Top Shop, which is massively popular in Dublin. The Zara effect seems to have worn off already. Fingers crossed it’s not Next, blandness blandness everywhere.
@Thomond Park wrote:
Hmm Garter Lane hardly representative of World class access
I wonder exactly how much of that article Freeman wrote himself unless Freeman also moonlights for a PR agency
I think it’s a pseudonym an I’m pretty sure I know who wrote it. I suspect it’s the same person to whom Mansfield leaks a lot of his stories
Anybody see the crap about it in The Freeman section of the Indo business section today?
Quote:PROPERTY developer and entrepreneur Jim Mansfield is inclined to play ducks and drakes with the planning laws, but few can deny that his facility at Citywest is first class. So he has every right to feel aggrieved that An Bord Pleanala has blocked his expansion plans, for the very flimsiest of reasons.Mansfield’s vision for Citywest was ahead of its time. He correctly foresaw that there was demand for a hotel and golf facility that served the big industrial base around the Naas Road and the M50, positioned five minutes from Newlands Cross.
Before he built his conference centre, Dublin was ill-served with such facilities. The RDS has upped its game since Mansfield came along, but it’s in an area where traffic access is now a daily nightmare.
Harry Crosbie’s Point Theatre has never caught on as a venue for commercial events and there are traffic problems there, too.
Since 2003, Mansfield has been endeavouring to construct Citywest 2, which would add 6,000 capacity to the 4,000 already there. The expansion was enthusiastically endorsed by both officials of South Dublin County Council and the councillors.
However, An Bord Pleanala has ignored this expression of local democracy and refused permission to make the Citywest centre any bigger. The board decided that a centre like Citywest should have “full access to supporting recreational, accommodation and cultural facilities”.
However, Fianna Fail Ard Fheis delegates want a bed, a drink and a meal. Citywest has all those. They don’t want to visit an art gallery anyway.
The board also decreed that such a major facility “should be located in a core commercial area, such as city centre or major town centre, in order to avail of a range of public transport options”.
Because the proposed convention centre would be “reliant primarily on private transport”, it would contravene the policies set out in the regional planning guidelines to reduce the growth in demand for transport.
Again, this is a load of tosh. The issue of public transport doesn’t concern organisers of events in Citywest. They recognise that people who want to attend a property exhibition don’t mind hopping in their cars to get there.
Harry Crosbie objected to Citywest’s expansion – yet more than a decade after the Point opened, the venue still isn’t served by a regular Dublin Bus service.
In any event, the State has recently invested hundreds of millions in both the M50 and widening the N7. Citywest’s location on the city fringe is much better suited to traffic modalities than the national convention centre that has been earmarked for Spencer Dock.
Mansfield knows that the Spencer Dock centre is coming down the tracks. Yet he was willing to risk his capital to take it on. It’s a shame that his enterprise has been stymied by ivory tower inhabitants. [QUOTE]
@notjim wrote:
labs and libraries need small windows, its always a problem when designing university science buildings, make them too big and they end up covered in sellotaped pieces of a4, yuck.
Thanks, didn’t realise that.
@Thomond Park wrote:
http://www.tcd.ie/Buildings/images/anpost2.jpg
What thinks ye?
Is Trinity full of vampires? What’s with the small windows. It’s the same on the Nassau Street side. I don’t get it.
Just my tuppence worth but sounds to me like they’re going to resubmit for the tower in a separate application. They didn’t want overall scheme rejected because of that
@StephenC wrote:
A nice mixed retail scheme at ground level is just what D’Olier Street needs. A bit of remodelling of the facades will be required though. Might be time to review the protected status of the buildings.
I don’t think there’s enough footfall on the island to justify retail – the Manchester Utd store showed that and retailers learned a lesson, hence it’s still empty. Maybe the only thing would be if the guys who bought the former bank behind it on Westmoreland St and got planning for retail also bought that – that scheme (I think it’s the ICS building) doesn’t appear to have moved much in recent years. The Westmoreland bar is also on sale so could be a good landbanking opportunity for somebody. I expect residential and possibly an extension of the Westin hotel.
