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Is cstephion’s No 1 just off Wilton Place and is the other one the IIB HQ

@a boyle wrote:

this underground has no chance of being built in the next decade so i would not pay it too much attention.

quite simply there is no way it will be built before the new terminal is in place as it would cause too much disruption..

And when bus start shuttling people through the port tunnel much faster than the metro will be able to , i think people will start to question the phenomenal expense.

For now it is trams (which if enough were built would be perfectly adequate).

Here we go again!

@phil wrote:

I stand by it as the latest incarnation of it has actually been better in that at least transport (for example) now has its own devoted thread. .

That had already been proposed by Thomond Park, who had volunteered to do it, on the prevous Cork thread prior to it being locked. he just hadn’t had time before it was locked.

The nature of the discussion on this thread is somewhat disjointed if you are not reading the thread regularly, people post new info, others respond to previous points. However, that’s the nature the three main development in Cork threads have taken and that’s helped make them so popular. New info goes up, people return to old points etc.

Ironically I would argue the paving element shouldn’t have appeared in this thread at all. It has little revelance to Developments in Cork.

@phil wrote:

I think it is fair to say that this thread is very difficult to follow. It seems to jump all over the place with people disccusing retail most of the time. Interesting issues (such as those recently highlighted about paving) get buried in the back pages before anyone gets a chance to discuss them properly. Then when they are raised again it is hard to follow the origins of the discussion.

No more so than the O’Connell Street thread which has discussed the Liffey boardwalk and the College Green area in extensive detail. It’s also nearly 10 times bigger than this one. On the foot of somebody who wasn’t a regular poster and perhaps reader of the thread — might even have been you?? — complaining about the previous Cork thread, it was locked. Posts like yours are likely to do it again. Regular readers had no problem following that discussion and enjoyed it – it’s no coincidence that the number of posts has fallen since then and the best and most regular poster has stopped posting entirely. New threads were brought in, the majority of which died a death. Search this thread to find info you’re interested in – It’s pure laziness to say it’s too difficult to follow.

@damnedarchitect wrote:

Does anyone know who the architects are on this one?

Looks good, will it pass?

It was an entry in a competition. No guarantee that that’s what will be built

@Paul Clerkin wrote:

A fashion retailer that rarely makes any public utterances about its business, Penneys managing director Seamus Halford broke with convention yesterday to say that it will invest €45-€50 million to double the space of its current store to 100,000 square feet.

Is that the Mary street outlet?

@BTH wrote:

The Arnotts facade isn’t great, mainly because of the apartments overhead which break up the scale of the building far too much, but also because the blue element basically cheapens the whole look of the image. This elevation should really be much more monumental and capable of forming a strong vista stop to the Princes St. Route.

The Kelly family are involved in the redevelopment so I suspect that the purple element (I think it’ll be purple rather than blue) will be like the Clarion hotel at Liffey Valley (which the Kellys own). I hate that facade and don’t believe it’s appropriate for city centre.

@Spinal Tap wrote:

It would be a waste to the city as offices / commercial development – just imagine those buildings restored and the extensions demolished, original roof and canopies restored,restaurants,cafes’art galleries,exhibitions on there and useable to the public ! Lots of similar projects in Copenhagen and they are a fantastic addition to a city with few visitor attractions like a maritime museum would fit in nicely there.

Would question the commercial viability of them but would like to see that, would also like to see some apartments in there to ensure animation throughout the week

Details have finally been released on Arnotts redevelopment:

Arnotts today unveiled plans for a €700 million development based around its current department store in Dublin’s north city centre.

The development known as the Northern Quarter will transform the area bounded by O’Connell Street, Abbey Street, Henry Street and Liffey Street into a new shopping and entertainment area.

An artist’s impression of the aerial view of the proposed development
The main aim of the proposal is to recreate Prince’s Street as a pedestrian thoroughfare connecting O’Connell Street to Henry Street with a public square at the heart of the development.

Williams Lane will be repositioned and a second lane will be added from the square to create a new north-south pedestrian route from Henry Street to Middle Abbey Street.

The scheme will feature 47 new shops, 189 apartments, a 152 bed four-star hotel and 17 new cafes restaurants and bars. Underground parking for over 700 vehicles with access via ramps on O’Connell Street has also been proposed.

Subject to planning permission the development is expected to be completed by 2010.

“The Northern Quarter will write the next chapter in the evolving history of Dublin City, retaining the charm of an open street environment but overlaying it with the dynamism and diversity of a modern European capital,” executive chairman of Arnotts Richard Nesbitt said at the launch in Dublin today.

Mr Nesbitt said that the company would provide 80 per cent of the funding but that they are seeking strategic partners for the remainder.

Arnotts will apply to Dublin City Council for planning permission this week.

© 2006 ireland.com

@Dieter wrote:

The fact that you don’t like Tynan’s design does not make it bad architecture. What is truly “embarrassing” is to read subjective ranting on a site that is supposed to be for serious architectural criticism. I am not surprised that you find it an effort to “keep it up”.

I think discussion of the aesthetic of a building is part of serious architectural criticism. If you look at the majority of buildings that win awards, it’s the memorable exterior that does it: the Swiss Re tower etc. The majority of people will only ever see the exterior of a building and therefore the impact of the exterior is extremely important. I’d be interested to know if the bank that financed the scheme were behind the awards.