J. Seerski
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ParticipantIndeed
Why, in times of Famine, a predominantly agricultural, rural country have built a railway infrastructure second to none.
And why, in one of the wealtiest nations in the world, can the same not apply today? The western rail corridor existed in the 1970s (oil crisis and hyper inflation days), but the celtic tiger will not touch it today???
Why oh Why oh Why???
J. Seerski
ParticipantDid you ever hear of Ansbacher Caymen?!!!!!
Some people ought to keep a low profile….
Some architects are infamous for things other than buildings!!!!
J. Seerski
ParticipantRead in the English Independent yesterday all about the exhibition in the Victoria and Albert Museum and how to live it up, Art-Deco style!
I was impressed! You could go around parts of London and think you were still in the 20s!
They mentioned Claridges Hotel in London as a fine example.
Speaking of Hotels, would the Gresham be a Art-Deco Hotel? Their original plasterwork and interior is very restrained and light, and the exterior has egyptian motif’s – very art-deco-ish!
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ParticipantCUTBACKS CUTBACKS CUTBACKS!!!!
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ParticipantFYI,
The old ESB logo (1920s) and many of its older buildings reflect the art deco era.
Ireland really has a “hybrid” form of art deco – as can be seen in many of the theatres around Dublin and the country that were built in the late 30s and 40s. We are obsessed with Georgian Buildings to the detriment to our later arch. eras.It would be a worthwhile project if someone would profile all the remaining art deco buildings in Ireland – there are still quite a lot if you look hard enough!
BTW., Burtons is more nouveau than deco!!!
J. Seerski
ParticipantFYI
They had a massive Fireworks celebration on O’Connell Street in the late 1920’s to celebrate WT. Cosgrave’s (President)diplomatic victory after the “Balfour Declaration” – which inevitably allowed us to become a Republic.
The Fireworks occurred immediately before the GPO – many attached to Nelson’s Pillar.
J. Seerski
ParticipantThat programme on the Pillar and the Spike last night was fascinating…..”Tall Tales” RTE1, but whoever didn’t see it, missed out big time!
What was so pronounced in the story was how public monuments provoke such controversy.
O’Connell St. looked spectacular also pre-blow-up-nelson-days.
The Metropole looked fantastic. No Fingal Co.Co. Offices either – just decorative victorian buildings. Mingin take aways were missing. It really seemed to be a boulevard lost in time…J. Seerski
ParticipantYeah – its a bit of a joke – concrete slabs?!!!
Why waste money on this crap – just start the proper job! The bollards are odd aswell… why don’t they surround the monument – theat’s the point surely?
J. Seerski
ParticipantOk, Sorry!!!!!!!
I’ll digress a bit… this war talk is driving me insane – thank god for non-war sites like archeire!
J. Seerski
ParticipantYes, they look very well. But what we take as amazing is just standard fare around the rest of Europe!!!
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ParticipantMaybe I missed the point, but I don’t think “brothels” are in the same category as tunnels. One is underworld, the other is underneath! What the hell are you on about, Zap?????
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ParticipantUnder the constitution, everything below ground is owned by the state.
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ParticipantIndeed.
It seems that the “oohs” and “aaahs” last for only a few days. When the Schuh building was completed on O’Connell St., it was greeted with initial enthusiasm. Now, all the talk is negative.
I like the AIB and IFSC block in the IFSC – they seem to stand the test of time. Much worse is the STW Citibank block. Bland bland bland.
J. Seerski
ParticipantLeadership? Haughey? Ha Ha!
He had no leadership qualities – he tried to emulate Mitterand – and he failed. The most memorable artwork from his era was the floozie – and where is it now……..?
He abolished the Metropolitan Streets Commission – which planned to rejuvinate O’Connell Street – in 1987. Some leadership…
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ParticipantDoes anyone ever consider the absence of great buildings owing to the corruption in the eighties?
Also, Stalin had a great architectural legacy – and look at the state of Eastern Europe and Russia now!
Our great buildings derive from a time when over ninety per-cent of Ireland was excluded from having any say in anything. Perhaps legacies are the preserve of despots…
Finally, how could you say that the Luas is an architectural legacy??????? The mind baffles….
J. Seerski
ParticipantWhat do people think of UCD in Belfield? (in archictectural terms only!)
Joke or good architecture? The arts block is very functional – but would it be regarded as a fine work?
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Participantbut will we all laugh at Temple Bar in a decade or so, and ask for all the modern stuff to be demolished?
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ParticipantTo Go if O’Connell Street is to get anywhere..
1. McDonalds et. al.
2. Eircom Building
3. Royal Dublin Hotel
4. Amusement Arcades
5. Centra-Spar etc.In their place if O’Connell Street is to get anywhere…
1. National Theatre at the Carlton
2. Indigenous non-chain-store type shops
3. Uniform Shopfronts like that of Regent St. London.
4. Decent Restaraunts – again no chains!What is not needed…
1. “sure it will do” attitude.
2. half-baked effort in implementing the rejuvination plan.
3. CUTBACKS!I read with interest that cash-starved Russia has four extensions planned for its metro, yet we can even get one started!
J. Seerski
ParticipantFYI
These concrete lamposts lined O’Connell Street and bridge since the forties, possibly earlier. They also framed Nelson’s column. They did look unusual and attractive.
There still are single arm concrete lamposts in Glasnevin, Rathmines, Killbarrack and the old Nass Road.
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ParticipantYeah, but you neglect the re-opening bit.
Its not a question of viability – its to do with priority. The existing transport infrastucture in Dublin is – as we all know – inadequate. Instead of spending billions on new projects from scratch, it would be better to reopen a link that has most of the essentials (land, lines, stations etc.) in place rather than start from the beginning and waste more money in the process.
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