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Dunnes are also completing a massive headquarters out at the Blanchardstown Centre. It must be about 12 stories high, although it looks a bit bulky due to the size of the floor plates.
iuxtaParticipantCan you start billing yourself as an employee of Archeire and therefore make a claim for the devlopment as a buisness cost?
iuxtaParticipanti don’t think thay have quite the same sense of style as the smithfield versions. i was out there last weekend and was struck by how top heavy the fittings seem, especially when you approach them at an angle and read them almost as a single mass.They may have looked better when drawn in front and side elevation, but from underneath they look a bit clunky and ponderous.
What is the timescale for the replacment of the central range of builidings?
Some argue about the value of re-instating a missing part of what was an ensemble of military buildings that looked imposing in any of the historical images that i have seen.
I’m not against the idea. I remember seeing the original proposal for the replacement building by the OPW and was not very impressed, a sort of precursor to the Millenium Wing of the NGI, hybridised with an exploded version of the TCD Berkely Library.The original complex looked quite imposing on the hill over the river and i wonder if any proposed modern replacement would have the same effect?
iuxtaParticipantStrange that the name “King” has come into this because that name is mentioned in the section of the website link that i gave previously. Its reproduced here although it may be of no relevence. However, a George King who is mentioned as the proprietor of the village and manor. Perhaps the manor refers to the house called Dollymount House or Kincora.
Anyway Mike, here is the text;
“In 1641 Luke Netterville and some of his adherents having seized and plundered a vessel which lay at Clontarf, the Earl of Ormonde was instructed to take retaliatory measures against them. He accordingly despatched Sir Charles Coote with some troops to the neighbourhood, where they burnt a considerable portion of the village, destroyed all the boats they could find, and burnt the house of Mr. George King, proprietor of the village and manor. The latter act was all the more remarkable inasmuch as Mr. King had been invited into Dublin but the day before by the Government, from whom he had received an assurance that he might safely go there “without danger of any trouble or stay whatsoever.” It was, however, alleged, that most of the plundered vessel’s cargo was found in his house, and, true or untrue, this charge turned out a serious one for him, as he was immediately afterwards attainted, and his estates confiscated.”
iuxtaParticipantThanks for info Paul and sorry mike that it’s of no use for you.
You could also try the link below, the site has links to various online versions of old guide books and histories of dublin city and county as well as links to historic maps. it may help. The “neighbourhood of Dublin link” has a section on the clontarf, bull island area and dollymount and mentions the house you are looking for in relation to an 1820 map ad up until 1836. Here is the link.
http://indigo.ie/~kfinlay/index.htmAnd the link to the chapter on Dollymount etc. http://indigo.ie/~kfinlay/Neighbourhood/chapter24.html
iuxtaParticipantI hope the superloos don’t stay for long. Has anyone seen the one in kildare town? it has georgian pilasters and a sort of entablature, painted black with lovely gold highlights. it looks like one of those bollards on steroids.
They are also hideously expensive, about £100,000, believe it or not.
iuxtaParticipantI recall seeing a photo of a large georgian portico which was all that was left of some large mansion in that general area. It was standing alone in a small grassed area in the middle of a large estate of semi-detached houses. It could be the house you are looking for.
It was a great photo, showing the total contrast in scale between one of the Great Houses and the housing then being built for the suburban masses.
The photo was part of an exhibition on old Dublin that i seen about 14 years ago in either Scoil Muire oin Parnell Square or the loreto on the Green. i can’t remember which, being only a wee lad at the time.
iuxtaParticipantHave you tried the Historical Picture Company? Its a shop located on Ormond Quay Lower, a few doors downriver from Capel Street bridge. They have an enormous selection of old photos for sale, and are very good for photos of old Dublin. All the images are filed by area.
There is another historical photo shop at the top of Capel Street near where it joins Bolton Street.
The architectural archive on Merrion square is always a good bet but ring first and check opening hours.iuxtaParticipantMary Harney’s waistline has very little to do with this debate. Libelling a government minister is a surefire way of attracting the wrong sort of attention for any website, especially one seeking funding from arts council or other government bodies.
iuxtaParticipantperhaps a music hall would be a better option? although they were later on the scene and any images that i have seen looked quite small theatres, gilt and red velvet and all that. I have seen an image of horse racing in the Theatre Royal which shows some decoration. I would suggest that the Architectural Archive might be a good place to start looking.
iuxtaParticipantI know of at least two students in DIT Bolton Street who have done an architectural thesis on this site in the past few years. There may well be more.
2001 – Emer O’Sullivan – design museum
2000 – Linda Sherlock –The thesis books for each of these can be accessed through the library in DIT, Bolton Street. They are, however limited to within the library and cannot be removed.
iuxtaParticipantI haven’t checked them, but do the Regs not mention that the windows should be “guarded” up to a certain height? in that case, is it not possible to put in a lower window and place a guard , which could be as simple as a 30mm diameter steel bar at the regulation height, be it 800mm or whatever. This could be held in two brackets, from which it could be removed in an emergency.
iuxtaParticipantThe big problem with giving permission for public spaces to be used for sports such as skateboarding is that the owner then assumes a level of responsibility for the safety of those users and having seen the skaters falling over the staps at the Central Bank as they practice new moves, i imagine the corporation would not be eager to to take on a potential liability nightmare like this.
iuxtaParticipanti had heard that it was to move to a new location in Merrion Square.
iuxtaParticipantI remember hearing that the contract was for six months. When the liffey street traders heard this they insisted on a replacement bailey bridge as they felt six months without river crossings at this point would be disasterous for their business.
As to the ironwork, i imagine that post-botanical garden restoration of the Turner glasshouse, they are using similar technology and that all that can be preserved will be.
Does any one know what colour the bridge will be when finished? is it planned to restore the original colour paint as in the Turner glasshouse?
iuxtaParticipantThe prohibition on advertising applies to most if not all professionals who have professional bodies to represent them rather then a trade union e.g doctors, solictors, barristers,etc.
I think the point above about gentlemen and commercialism was one of the original reasons, as in the past professions would only have been accessible to those in the higher classes, and it would have been poor ettiquette to advertise one’s services.
I don’t know whether it should still be the case, although having seen some of the advertisements of lawyers and doctors in the states, i wouldn’t welcome them here.
Also, the lack of advertising means that there is less competition amongst firms for work, which allows architects to use the scale of feees agreed by their professional body, the RIAI here in ireland.
July 17, 2001 at 3:03 pm in reply to: New tallest building in Dublin to form part of Hammond Lane development (2) #717853iuxtaParticipantPaul,
the picture seems to have dissappeared. Is this the O’Muire Smyth tower scheme with the curved facade towards the river?iuxtaParticipanti had heard that the building was unoccupied because they had added on an extra storey during the construction thus voiding the planning permission, presumably hoping nobody would notice.
Has anyone else heard this?
iuxtaParticipanti have an image of the building in question if you tell me how to post it on this page or else i’ll e-mail it direct to you.
iuxtaParticipantPaul,
You also mentioned an original shopfront on Mary’s Abbey across the road from the picture in the first post. It will soon be gone as that entire side of the street is currently undergoing demolition to align Mary’s Abbey with Abbey street as the Luas can not make the turn through the stagered junction at Capel Street. This will result in an entire new street facade being constructed along this new edge. I haven’t seen if the corporation have drawn up a design for this, does any one know anything about it? -
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