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Not to turn this into a political debate but signs would point towards another term of FF. Good news for everyone involved in the construction industry! The thoughts of Sinn Fein in power worry me.
1500 is still a big number in terms of having sufficient facilities at either end of the track and all these increased movements will result in increased carbon emissions.
Railway is a good alternative but what about the transport of goods? It would necessitate double handling to change from road transport to rail then back to road again! And the likely hood of de-zoning?? Not unless the Green Party get into power which is doubtful.
Good research PVC. Now what year were these figures recorded?? 2005/2006 most likely. And what will these figures be in 10/15 years time?? I guarantee that they will be significantly greater. Look at the m50 as a prime example. In its early planning stages no one foresaw the likelihood of economic and population growth and consequently before the road was officially finished it was too small!!
Alonso. If I am debating with transport and planning professionals about this project, I imagine it is the transport and planning professionals that have never succeeded in their chosen career. Sometimes you have to put what in theory in an ideal world is maybe right in the back of your head and focus on what is right in this the real world. If you are transport and planning professionals that are writing on this thread well then you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
At this rate this M3 situation could end up like the situation in carrickmines, costing millions, and in the end the road went ahead practically as planned. To discuss this issue in detail one would have to look at all the statistics, plans and strategies that have been developed that merit this road.
I have read many of PVC’s previous threads and it would appear that all PVC is doing trying to spread propaganda about anything.
Studies concerning the feasibility and need for this road have been carried out by highly qualified professionals.
Fine say we don’t need it. However 25 years ago one may have argued that the M50 was not needed or over designed. Now 25 years on with economic growth in Ireland and huge population growth in the Dublin region the M50 has reached its capacity and has to be modified.
This road is forward planning. In 10/15 years I expect that this road will have a high capacity of traffic due to urban sprawl and further economic growth in Ireland.
It is and it will be needed. All it is that Ireland are moving ahead of themselves at last and trying to leave the days of the m50 fiascos behind.
Fine its going to run through various areas of archaeology importance, but as I said before the knowledge of these areas would not have been fully exploited.
Please PVC don’t reply to this with useless rubbish on why it’s needed and how it’s 500% over designed or over budget or any silly comments like that. I suggest you read the EIS.
Closing this thread is just saying that people like PVC cannot bear facing the true facts.
The road is needed full stop. People who live in the areas where it passes through need and want it. Its construction alone will create jobs and as a direct consequence of the road property in the areas it passes through will increase in value. Businesses will want to locate close to the road creating more jobs. A few posts in the ground. Well go to any builders providers and Im sure you will find some similar ones. Probably not rotten and probably in better condition. Once you get them i suggest you dig a hole in your garden and put the postd in the ground. then go to the butchers and get a few bones and then the beach and a few stones and a few scraps of metal from a salvage shop. Then you can go and have fun looking at these things. the thoughts are exciting me…………..NOT.
THIS ROAD AND ALL SIMILAR ROAD PROJECTS TO FOLLOW ARE PROGRESS
THE ROAD IS CLEARLY NEEDED
ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU PVC THAT SHOULD BE LOCKED UP IN A HOME FOR PROMOTING WASTEFUL USE OF MONEY AND RESOURCES.
THESE POSTS AND OTHER ANCIENT AREASWOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UNCOVERED IF THIS ROAD WAS NOT BEING CONSTRUCTED.
SO THEY WERE BURIED UNDER SOIL FOR THE LAST THOUSANDS OF YEARS SO IT WILL BE NO DIFFERENT IF THEY ARE BURIED UNDER A ROAD. PROBABLY BETTER FOR THEIR PRESERVATION.
GET OVER IT.
Look PVC you are obviously against progress. Irelands roads are in dire need of an upgrade. The M4/N4 is not relatively near this road and also the traffic volume would be greatly increased if traffic that will use the new M3was diverted to the M4/N4.
Oh Oh.
I win
You my friend LOSE.
HA!
You can come back with some rant if you want but just face up to the fact that the road is needed and will be built.
http://www.m3motorway.ie/FAQ/#one this link will answer any of your questions PVC!!
Let’s just get on with it. Out with the old in with the new. That’s life we have to progress. A couple of old rotting wooden posts that are worthless surely cannot be used as an excuse to hold up an important road project like this. If we had that approach then we would achieve nothing. I hope this isn’t going to end up being another Carrickmines fiasco costing unnecessary millions of €uro and making Ireland the laughing stock of Europe, just because some loop the loops want to get a bit of publicity.
