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Why keep talking as if it is dead? The foundations would have to be sealed to prevent degradation whether it be for months or years. Crosbie seems confident from previous interviews, almost to the point of arrogance, if someone is going to build it, he will, and he has said so.
So if it doesnt go ahead on holloween or whenever, will the site be left for it to be built later or sold on?
Cheers for pic johnny.Nothing. Im not suggesting that. Im refering to developments such as this where location is perfect and the design is good. If there is one place for large scale buildings in dublin, it is here in the docklands. Almost everyone here agrees with that, given the boring nature of the place as it stands. What could possibly be a better alternative for this tower? An extenstion to crap shopping center? Just because it doesnt have zaha written on it in diamonds doesnt mean its not a nice building, the whole development would come down a notch without it. Like was said before, it closes off the view down mayor street. It just fits.
Now the ncc will remain the only attractive modern building of scale to be built in dublin despite such a huge boom (is aqua vetro a maybe?). Unbelievable, pisses me off big time. Our planning laws strangle the life out of anything interesting.
Does anyone have any idea what will be done with the site? If they remove the foundations, will the tower be built at any point?
@johnny21 wrote:
No i think they have made an agreement with liam at a price they couldnt refuse!!!
Kewl, more monotony so…
Moar photos.
I hope they build something to the immediate left of the point, its not so nice
Blue lighty things
Umm, shinyer in real life
Not so sure what this could be, I know what I want it to be…
and a micraand gcd theatre
Total cop out
This angle was more intersting with my eyes.
Last one round the corner
Taken today btw.
Time to kill in town… lousy camera phone, sorry.
Really does look quite big up close… Should be pretty epic if the hotel gets passed ABP.
AIG needs to burn.
Could be my phone or eyes but this looks pink to me
Dont know what this is behind, the centre or hotel…
The thing beside it…
Excavations beside it for something else, what is it does anyone know?
yeeeahp, lot of time to kill, crap shots sorry… meh
@dan_d wrote:
That may have been me.Apologies if I seem to be lurking, but I don’t have a massive amount of time on my hands to spend reading every single item on these boards, and posting replies.I manage to occasionally read stuff, that’s about it!.
Hheh, sorry dan, got me wrong there, was talking about myself… lurking rocks 😎
Would like some more free time myself…The office/res decision would seem most the likely reason for the pause alright.
I dont understand this… If the tower can be seen, its obviously made some progess. With the rest of the village open what is crosbie going to do with the tower. A completed tower raises the profile of the whole development, but an uncompleted one will be a visual blight on it. I remember someone here saying these are “not things you simply deconstruct”….major lurker btw…. so is he goin to box it up in glass or something :confused: Does he have any interest in saying he “waiting” as opposed to cancelled, doesnt seem realistic that things will shape up in 3 months.
Is resumption likely even in the long term?He had wanted the cable cars to be in the shape of a pint of Guinness, but this violated advertising codes.
I cannot believe people like this exist in the world. Capitalist opportunism at its worst. …???….wtf
@cgcsb wrote:
although this building will be near the height of liberty hall, it hasn’t received recognition as a high rise, perhaps because it’s a bit on the bulky side.
Its 40m approx(to the cylinder top I believe), same as O’Connell bridge house
@AndrewP wrote:
Bare concrete might look OK if it’s left bare but we all know it won’t be. And as soon as it starts deteriorating, passengers will start feeling uncomfortable and staying away from it.
Total joke, very valid point… cost/benefit on station finishes cant warrant this crap can it?
I seem to remember a headline “splash out on under-liffey station” or whatever???
What is p11 position on this?New, enhanced renders of T2 on the DAA website
http://www.dublinairportauthority.com/media-centre/image_gallery.html
doesnt paint a pretty picture of its rear…DAA have finally released more information (and pictures:D ) of T2
Pictures here
Fact Sheet
Statement also.I think like it, Big improvment by the sounds of it.
New Terminal to Transform Dublin Airport
The Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) is to build a new €395m terminal at Dublin Airport capable of handling up to 15 million passengers per year.
Construction of T2 is due to begin in the second quarter of next year and the new terminal will open in the Autumn of 2009. T2 will transform the passenger experience for travellers using Dublin Airport and raise capacity at the airport to a potential 35 million passengers per year.
“T2 will provide an elegant and contemporary gateway for 21st century Ireland,” said DAA chairman Gary McGann. “It provides a cost effective solution to Dublin Airport’s current capacity deficit that meets the Government’s requirement for delivery by 2009 and it represents a further significant milestone for the DAA in its commitment to deliver on its key shareholder and customer objectives.”
T2 will be a bright, modern building designed specifically to meet travellers’ needs. It will feature large airy spaces in areas such as check-in, baggage reclaim, security and the departures lounge. The 75,000 square metre terminal will also have dedicated facilities to meet the needs of business travellers and families travelling with young children. The public areas will create a calm and relaxing environment for arriving and departing passengers alike.
The planning application for T2 will be lodged this week with Fingal County Council together with a planning application for a new pier building (Pier E), an improved internal road network, a major utilities upgrade and a range of other associated works. The total cost, at current prices, of the terminal and the other new infrastructure for which planning permission is being sought is just over €600m.T2 will be built close to the roundabout on the existing approach road to Terminal One. As part of the plan for T2, the internal roads at Dublin Airport will be upgraded and reconfigured to create separate dedicated approach routes for T1 and T2. Locations for a future Metro station and a ground transportation centre are also provided in the development plan.
T2 is a three-storey, curvilinear building that sits astride the main access road to Terminal One. The building has two main components – a check-in area and a departures and arrivals area – connected by a link that forms part of the central spine of the new building. The way in which T2 sits astride the road means that all arriving vehicular traffic for the existing passenger terminal will pass under this link on its way to T1.
In the spacious new check-in area passengers will find almost 60 traditional check-in desks and ample self-service kiosks and self-serve bag drop positions. Having passed through a centralised security area, they will enter a large departures lounge with retail and catering outlets providing views over the airfield. Passengers will then continue onto the boarding gates in the new Pier E to board their aircraft.
The new facilities allow arriving passengers move from gate to landside through the centre of the terminal without a change in levels. Another feature of T2’s design is that all passengers will pass through the heart of the building whether they are departing or arriving.
Aer Lingus is expected to be the primary user of T2 and the new terminal will also be home to other transatlantic and intercontinental carriers. The new 24,000 square metre Pier E facility, which is perpendicular to T2, will have gates for up to 19 short-haul aircraft or up to eight long-haul aircraft.
DAA chief executive Declan Collier said that while T2 would open in 2009, passengers using Dublin Airport would begin to see improvements in facilities from later this year. Work is currently underway on Area 14, a new lower ground floor check-in area in T1 that will open this December. The construction of Pier D, which will open in Autumn 2007, is also progressing and it will create a vibrant new departures area with 14 new gates for fast turnaround short-haul aircraft.
“We are acting to deliver new capacity at Dublin Airport to meet the needs of the travelling public and our airline partners,” he added. “In recent years, the facilities at Dublin have not kept pace with the huge growth in passenger numbers. But with the advent of T2, Pier E and our plan to upgrade the entire airport campus, we will deliver a high-quality, cost-effective, contemporary gateway for Irish air travellers and visitors to this country alike. In this context we welcome the fact that the cost-effective basis of the plans we announce today, will be affirmed by the independent cost verification consultants appointed by the Government.”
He added that the plans for T2 and Pier E are key elements of a major Airport Development Programme at Dublin Airport that also includes a new parallel runway, an extension to the existing Terminal One facility and a range of other upgrades and improvements due to be delivered over the next 10 years.
The design and specification of T2 and its associated infrastructure has been developed following a detailed consultation process with the airlines and other key stakeholders at Dublin Airport. This process revealed significantly more aggressive growth plans on the part of the principal airlines based at the Airport than had been anticipated when the DAA published its initial draft airport development plans a year ago.
“Our commitment to addressing the requirements of all our airline customers, service providers and passengers as effectively as possible, has led to a significant increase in the scope of our initial development plan and an acceleration in the delivery of some key supporting infrastructure,” said Declan Collier.
“To deliver the plans we announce today and the other essential infrastructure required, the DAA’s longer-term development plan for Dublin Airport will exceed the €1.2bn outlined in last year’s initial projections. We are currently engaged with the Regulator and other stakeholders with regard to the detail of this future investment.”
T2 has been designed by a project team comprising Arup, Pascall + Watson and Mace. The consortium was appointed as project manager and designer for T2, Pier E and all associated integration works earlier this year. The firms have previously worked on other major airport projects such as Heathrow’s Terminal 5, Beijing’s new Terminal 3, Hong Kong’s Chek Lap Kok International Airport and Seeb International Airport in Oman.
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Issued 30th August 2006@adhoc wrote:
This is a slightly outdated render of Pier D – the airbridges featured will not be built at this stage , although permission has been granted for them.
Do you mean that air bridges similar to those shown will not be built or that there will not be air bridges at all. if so, is that a cost cutting measure? A lack of air bridges seems unprofessional and unimpressive to me, something I was hoping we would get this time round with new developments.
more renderings of walkway…
http://www.capitasymonds.co.uk/whatwedo/ourprojects/projectsearch/project.asp?projectid=696
