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@sfamato wrote:
I only heard there was one planned for the development, but seeing as theres an even bigger one being built, I dont think that it will go ahead.
Out of interest, what do you think should go on the development? A football pitch?
Well, you must ask the question…….what does Wexford town currently lack and what would be a suitable development to take place on the site.
A public park incorporatiing youth recreational and sporting facilities would benefit the town.
@sfamato wrote:
I didnt really want to creat a new thread for this, but i thought some people might be interested.
Now this sounds fantastic! The current cinema is a state!
Now, I heard that Trinity Wharf was to have a cinema too, which is a good thing because where this new cinema is going, its abit out from town and apparently the exsisting cinema is going to close. So you cant just walk into town anymore and go and catch a flick. So if i heard right and TW does include a cinema, it would just be another plus for the development.
There are no pluses for this enormous Wexford Harbour Trinity Wharf development and you have just pointed out yet another minus.
If the proposed 7 screen cinema gets the go ahead in Drinagh then the last thing Wexford needs is yet another new cinema in the proposed Trinity Wharf development. It would not be sustainable.
There has been a huge world wide slump in cinema ticket sales in the last two yearts. It would now appear, given the huge growth in DVDs and Home Cinema sales, that people now prefer to watch movies at home.
@ctesiphon wrote:
1500 x 360 = 540,000 euros. Is it a goodwill payment? Or is is a ransom?
By the sounds of things it’s money well spent, if the former Mayor’s comments can be taken as representative. And interestingly, he’s a former worker in the factory, so he can hardly be said to be emotionally detached from proceedings. Makes me wonder, how many other councillors have/had a family connection to the factory?
Well, you got to admit, they have got some brass!! The former Mayor gives more information on this ‘deal’ on his webpage on the Labour party web site.
http://www.labour.ie/davyhynes/issues.html
On his webpage, Cllr Hynes writes……
‘We former employee have at least managed to have the developer of the factory site agree to pay a goodwill gesture of €1400 to every employee (with six months service) with the company, the day we went into receivership.
This deal has been secured after several months of behind the scenes talks which culminated in a meeting between Minister John Brown and the developer Mr. Dermot Mc Phillips, Ms. Breda Fowler, Mr. Peter Hall, myself and Mr. Billy Kyne, Regional Organiser of AMICUS –AEEU. It should also be said that Simon Kirwan of the AEEU and the members of the Harbour Board were very helpful in this matter. Great credit is due the Minister and principally the developer for his gesture and his comments ‘that he had great sympathy with the situation that the workers found themselves in, at the plant in Wexford’.
…much good for Wexford and its people promises to flow, with this major sea front development, with the prospect of providing jobs for up to 500 people. I warmly welcome and am please that the Council voted for rezoning of this historic industrial (but now derelict) site for this purpose’.From the wexford Echo….
While all the former workers received €600 advance payments, they are all still waiting for the go-ahead for the development before they will receive the second and final payments of €900 each.
‘I’m afraid we won’t get it until he gets his final planning permission… I’m guessing it will be the middle of next year at the earliest,’ said former Mayor, Cllr. Davy Hynes, himself a former worker at Electronix.
That’s how things get done in Wexford.
It’s interesting to see how business is done in Wexford.
An aricle from the Wexford Echo from January 2006……………..
AN application to transform the derelict site of the old Wexford Electronix factory into a hotel, shopping centre and apartments will shortly land on the desk of council planners.
Kilkenny-based developer Derry McPhilips says he is almost ready to submit the application for the development, which will take in the old Clover Meats site.
The biggest application of its kind ever submitted to the local borough council, it will include a hotel, apartments, promenade and shopping centre, and could create hundreds of jobs.
If the project gets the go-ahead, 360 former Wexford Electronix workers will collect €900 each, the balance of goodwill payments agreed by the developer when he bought the site from receivers.
KILKENNY-based developer Derry McPhilips is about to submit a detailed planning application for a massive €200 million plus development on the site of the old Wexford Electronix factory.
The development, which will take in the derelict Clover Meats site, will include an hotel, apartments, promenade and shopping centre, and will create hundreds of jobs.
It is the biggest application of its kind ever submitted to the council and comes after many months of pre-planning.
‘We are finalising the application and hope to submit it early in the new year,’ Mr. McPhilips told this newspaper.
Once the project gets the go-ahead it will also clear the way for the balance of €1,500 goodwill payments by the developer to 360 former Wexford Electronix workers, who lost their jobs when the factory went into receivership four years ago.
One local councillor described the project as ‘the icing on the cake for the town’.
After Mr. McPhilips bought the site from receivers appointed by Wexford Electronix, he agreed to make payments of €1,500 to each of the 360 workers employed there at the time of its closure, the deal sweetening a change of use to mixed development approved by the borough council.
While all the former workers received €600 advance payments, they are all still waiting for the go-ahead for the development before they will receive the second and final payments of €900 each.
‘I’m afraid we won’t get it until he gets his final planning permission… I’m guessing it will be the middle of next year at the earliest,’ said former Mayor, Cllr. Davy Hynes, himself a former worker at Electronix.
‘Why we would often be objecting to some of the stuff that’s going on around town — we would welcome this because it would be on a site that’s lying idle and derelict and would create a lot of jobs,’ he said.
During pre-planning meetings earlier this year, borough council officials requested more information from the developer, which is about to be submitted.
Once the voluminous application is submitted it will have to be validated by the council.
This plan is a recipie for urban destruction not urban renewal.
This proposed development will only lead to urban destruction. The indigenous shops on the main street will close one by one only to be replaced by a mixture of super pubs and fast food joints. If you want a precedent for this just go look at Carlow where the retail character of Tullow Street and Dublin street have changed completely. Even the once grand Royal Hotel on Dublin Street is now a car park. But Carlow never had the unique historical character of Wexford town.
Wexford, one of the most historic towns in Ireland, its small streets with many small indigenous shops, full of character, attracting visitors from all over Ireland and beyond. A town with a beautiful harbour full of wildlife.
All of this will be put at risk by this development.
@sfamato wrote:
Being from Wexford myself, this proposed development is much better what is there already. As for the the railway, i was thinking about this and just assummed that the complex will be seperated by the track, or a tunnel through the building?
At last, a fellow Wexford man joins the debate.
Well not only is the train missing from the drawing, but Wexford Harbour is missing too! It really does not give much idea of how it will look.
Given the challenges that this site and it’s proposed development present you really have to wonder what the planners were thinking when they decided to rezone this site. It really makes you wonder!!
The fact that the Dublin to Rosslare railway line crosses the development is quiet well disguised in the artist’s impression or maybe someone forgot to tell him about the train??
It would not be allowed iin Russia…..it has more the feel of 1970s Romania.
I am at a loss to understand how any of this benefits the people of Wexford? Has someone carried out a study which says we need more cinemas, more bars, more private health clubs, more vacant appartments or more hotels?
Can anyone understand it?
