GregF
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Don’t all the stadia in both Japan and Korea look magnificent…including the pitches which have the quality of a bowling green…..they’ve done a wonderful job at providing top notch facilities…….
Come on IRELAND…up the Republic….
Erin go Bragh!That’s great..the Hugh Lane is a good little gallery……..containing Francis Bacon’s studio and several quite distinguished paintings and artworks by the likes of Monet, Manet, Courbet, Beuys..etc. It well deserves an injection of funds for expansion.
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More than likely we will probably end up with something mediocre and run of the mill……just like the Millennium celebrations here, etc,… and everything else we Irish seem to do….as is always the case…….well bar the odd spectacular one off. It’s gas to see the stadium in Cardiff doing great business…..despite the Welsh being crap at Rugby and Soccer…. Maybe we should just be happy with the Stadium of Light? in Inchicore or Landsdowne Road….which looked appaling last week, pitch surface and all…. for the Ireland game……especially when you compare it to Hampden Park in Scotland the night before for the European Champons League Finals…..(and that stadium is’nt great either by todays standards.) In hindsight…….the FAI should have built Eircom Park…..pity the rich gits would’nt invest in it……Dermot Desmond and the likes would rather invest in Celtic….typical of our Irish pseudo patriotism too……. Boo Hoo
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Well the way I’ve looked on it…..and no way do I support Fianna Fail…..but they did give us Temple Bar….and they are offering us something of architectural substance for the future in the form of Sports Campus Ireland…..We have already won the competion to hold a a major swimming tournament for 2003 with the National Aquatic Centre..and that can’t be bad for the international profile of the nation.
Although the Stephen’s Green complex is anachronistic….It does however have a rather quirkey and odd charm…..like the Brighton Pavillion in England etc…. The proposed plan is to replace the exterior over ornate metal work with glass……..I’m all for slick shiny futurist glass ….(especiallly down the docks one could run wild with all sorts of super designs, but alas it is not the case…Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) but maybe the Stephen Green complex should be left as it is….a kinda quirky and odd extragance adding a bit of charm……just like some characters one may meet in Dublin itself.
I am of Ballyfermot …it is a good place on the edge of Dublin city …..It was once what could be termed predominantly ‘working class’ ..it was awful in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s as I remember when poverty was rife and morale was rock bottom, but some people held on and brought us through the bad times…….but now that there is a proliferation of work and money….things have picked up big time. They have built a new Civic centre in Ballyfermot …it looks very well….’Temple Bar’ comes to the suburbs. Many present Irish ‘celebs’ come from ‘Ballyer’ such as Joe Duffy, The Fureys Brothers and Lorraine Keane’s ma as well as Tom Hyland,reknowned for his campaign for human rights in Asia. Many such working class suburbs can boast renowned names of Irish life and culture..ie Brendan Behan once lived in In Drimnagh etc…
The housing schemes of Ballyfermot are good….soundly built and visually ok………if they are painted up with a bright colour and the front garden tended to … they can look as good if not better than any private housing estate.
Frank McDonald is a good writer ….he is well informed of Dublin’s architectural history ….I gained part of my knowledge and love for Dublin city through Frank McDonalds newspaper articles and books throughout the years.[This message has been edited by GregF (edited 13 May 2002).]
Well when it all boils down….let’s give Bertie the vote and get the National Stadium built…it’s a chance in a lifetime I suppose…no other party has ever proposed such major civic developments…including the LUAS, the Spire, etc….Bertie is a bit of a Francois Miterand…well kinda…….Dub style.
The DDDA are a bureaucratic bunch of ultra conservative planners who’s plans for the Dublin Docklands would induce one to sleep for eternity……..Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
So it looks as if the chances of us hosting the Euro Soccer 2008 Champonships with Scotland is a non runner……especially now that the GAA have refused to allow field games other than gaelic to be played in Croke Park. My money is now on Bertie in the forthcoming general election with the promise of Stadium Ireland being built. The objectors can get lost.
A gourmets delight…..I’m all for it…….however we build everything to small and pokey here…..let’s have some generous scale and airiness, no more crowded places….the sky is the limit.
This pub is constantly being subjected to a barrage of misguided builders terrorism. I thought it was a listed structure……
where’s the ‘do-gooder’ architectural watchdogs in this case…….or have they their heads too far up their arses wrapped up in their own little personal agendas.Is it because the more affluent and middle class we become the more unsociable we become.
Is social interaction only to be found in more primitive cultures?
People of working class areas have always had a strong social interaction with their neighbours….They had poverty and hardship in common which bonded them together.
People today have their wealth and the abundance of gizmos that they can buy with their money to occupy themselves……or maybe young people today are just boring and have nothing to say.I was over in Manchester on Tuesday for the United game against Nantes….and wow what a stadium Old Trafford is……puts us Irish in the Dark Ages. We desperately need to have some sort of National Stadium arrangement made…..whether it be the Bertie Bowl, Croke Park or Landsdowne Road redeveloped….sure why not all. With the chance of staging the 2008 European Soccer Championships with our Scotish relatives it is a great opportunity to showpiece Ireland…(By then O’Connell will have been redeveloped too….we hope) It is a wasted chance if we don’t have a go. Alas Mary Harney’e pessimistic views have scuppered plans for Stadium Ireland….and I for one will not vote for her and her political party which hold such mean and frugal conservative concepts.
