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I’d love to see you get planning permission first………….hee hee
I’m all in favour of tall stragically placed significant signature buildings for Dublin, but a 5 storey or less stump seems to be the limit set even in brownfield sites. See Dublin Docks for example.
All politicians are the same. Primarily they are out for their own particular parties, the general public come second. It is up to the general public to see through such charades. Many people can see through this charade by the Green party on this occassion.
Whether it be Fianna Fail, The Progressive Democrats, Fine Gael, Labour, The Green Party, Sinn Fein, The Socialists Workers Party etc etc…I would’nt trust them as far as I could throw ’em.
Very good of you too reply Ciaran Cuffe but I think in your response you are quite dismissive of you and your party’s actions. Chaining yourself to the trees and only for a short while for that matter was a cheap publicity stunt. It was not for the betterment of the city of Dublin in any way but the betterment of the Green party’s profile.
Hard to believe that you are an architect who lectures in planning in Bolton Street.Apart from the technolagy but the gumption does’nt exist either.
Visit our new Dublin docklands if ye have’nt already. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! What a boring site to behold.
‘Ellipses, parabolas, feature steelwork even a few reverse bends and tube manipulation’
….it will take a few decades for the dopes to get their heads around that here.Embarassing , if not shameful is’nt it.
I’ve just heard on the radio that Marianne Finucanne is to broadcast a programme next Tuesday from O’Connel Street regarding the Trees…….If any one is free and who stands up for architectural morality (sounds like an OMD album) would they please go along and contribute so as to counteract Joe (IRA/Sinn Fein, keep all foreign people out of Ireland , they take our jobs/I dunno a weed from a flower aka but the Green Party are always right) Bloggs.
As Louis Armstrong once sang …..
‘I see trees of green…………..here’s a link to the proposed plans and there’s plenty of trees to be seen.
https://archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1464
Just to add …..I have a great love of nature, I’m a keen gardener and I was initially shocked for a very brief moment when I saw that the mature trees in front of the GPO were removed a couple of years ago, but when I saw in full view the facade and portico of the GPO, I realized what a spectacular street O’Connell Street could be if all it’s architectural merits were revealed and the unkempt jungle removed. As it is at the moment it is like an overgrown garden with incoherent planting of trees and a few anachronistic uncity like superficial rustic flower boxes added annually.
Cities are created by people……They are planned, calculated, measured…..just like great gardens; mannicured, parteurred and topiaried, symbols of civilization, not haphazard piles of shite……If people in Dublin want pure untouched natue go up the road to the Phoenix Park or travel to the countryside just outside Dublin. Or even how about attending to that plot of land at the front and back of their house.
The Green Party TD’s can be contacted at the email addresses below if anyone wants to voice their disapproval. Maybe send them a link to this site as well so as they can see the objections to their stance.
tsargent@greenparty.ie
johngormley@eircom.net
ccuffe@indigo.ieA poem….dedicated to the Green Party
………aka the Bonkers PartyThe Tree
I am a type of tree you know
I start out small and then I grow
My roots spread deep under the ground
To help me so I won’t fall down
My trunk protects me up and down
And carries all my food around
The inside part of me is dead
The outer layers grow instead
From my trunk grow many branches
This is the part of me that dances
On my branches, green leaves you’ll see
They use the sun, to make food for me
Do I sound like a tree you’ve seen?
Have you guessed? I’m an ever-GreenOr
I think that I shall never see
a poem as lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is pressed
against the earth’s sweet flowing breast.
A tree that looks at God all day
and lifts her leafy arms to pray.
Upon whose bosom snow has lain
who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me
but only God can make a tree.Jesus I’m going mad.
Hee hee…………good one AndrewP..
If one looks at any of the old B/W photos of O’Connell Street there are hardly any trees to be seen circa at the time of 1916 before and after…..especially when the trams were running, as the branches would have caused interference to the tram lines.
When O’Connell Street was in it’s initial
heydey of Georgian times there were hardly any trees if none either according to old prints, it was just a broad street. The trees in fjp’s photos are quite young, after sapling stage almost…..see the statue of Father Matthew standing among them in fjp’s photos.The Green Party are looking for popularity……appealing to a public using the lowest common denominator…….’Trees being uprooted that date from ‘1916’….
Well to counteract that one could say and being equally facetious that the trees are ‘London’ planes and were planted by the Brits whilst they still were occupant residents here.
But let’s not go down such a childish route.
Why all this fuss too when we are going have more trees planted….more Planes, Limes and Flowering Crab Apples…sounds a better variety to enhance the street too.We are talking about the upgrading of O’Connell Street so if any form of gambling establishment were to be placed there I would prefer to see a Casino. (The one in Monaco comes to mind).
A Casino as opposed to a Bookies,
A Restaurent with a reputable inhouse renowned chef as opposed to a fast food outlet,
A 5 Star Hotel as opposed to a hostel,
A Department store as opposed to a Pound shop (aka Euroshop)
…………………..do you get the drift.
An air of sophistication and dignity is needed as a good basis for O’Connell Street, the people will add the colour and life.Ah notjim, would’nt a pub be far better in regards to attracting everybody, having a Guinness, a traditional sing song and the craic. It would attract the natives and the tourists.
A bookies, well would attract just gamblers.
Don’t get me wrong I’m all on for Casinos, Porn Shops, Lapdancing joints etc etc…. for Dublin. As a once sex starved insular society we need such brashness and crudities of human life, it’s part of traditon…..but not on the main thoroughfare however, especially when we are trying to invoke a sense of the chic and clean the kip up.That’s crazy is’nt it ….So now all the riff raff who hang out in Marlborough Street will be able to frequent the Bookies on Ireland’s main Street.
Don’t forget Anne Summers too facing the GPO.
One step forward Two steps backwards
….Jasus I think even another pub would probably be better ….for the tourists etc…and me. All these bookies yet the moral squad won’t allow Casinos………..what dumbkoffs.Jesus , this O Connell Street tree business is really getting out of hand. Eamonn de Buitlear is now on the radio concerned about the displacement of the larks….as well as the continuous litany from Joe and Josephine O’Public, who I bet if one were to ask to distinguish between a Birch and a Beech let alone a tit from sparrow they would’nt have a clue and at the same time their little darlings of children are breaking down the saplings that the council have planted right outside their window. This from the same people too who probably were once complaining about the state of Ireland’s premiere street and now that the Corpo have started to do something they say leave it alone.
Gas to see the use of rail transport overlooked and underfunded by the government as I saw on the news recently. Freight is being forced onto the roads as rail is becoming more redundant leading to more juggernauts and artics on the roads.
I wonder is it really a drive by the cash strapped government to find new sources of revenue or do they really care about traffic congestion.
