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ParticipantGoes easy on the stereotypes folks. they may appear to us to have no sense of humour, ie language barrier and all that……but I’m sure when they are among their own ilk they are a bundle of laughs. It’s the Brits who and have perpetrated such dogmas about Johnny Foreigner via the Sun newspaper etc.
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Participant…..it’s an awful bloody statue is’nt it. Could have had those robes more flowing like in a Hollywood Charlton Heston epic. Pity the sculptor was never aware of Bernini, that great dramatic sculptor of the Baroque.
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Participant‘Bout time ye’s cleaned this Kip up’ you lazy idle ignorant bastards…..how about that one.
He’s missing a few fingers too on his mauler, shot off by gunner eyed Pierce in the 1916 rebellion no doubt. Have they ever been found I wonder so as too stick em back on. Maybe someone is wearing them round their necks as relics…..poor sods.
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ParticipantAh Paul a Portico would be lovely….and how about painting it all white too……Weathershield Paint of course.
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ParticipantAll these tall buildings planned for Dublin……..just hope the Dublin Fire Brigade has adequate extension ladders in case a fire breaks out on the top floors. Could be disasterous, such inadequate thinking……may lead to more tribunals.
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Participant…….maybe we could add on a portico to tart it up and sure why not
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ParticipantThere we go again…..another portrayal from the outside of us Irish as being small, insignificant, insular and thick……..aka leprecauns and all that…….probably worried in case we may challange the height of Canada House in Canary Wharf, Europes tallest building…..and well done to them for that.
But after all what other country on planet earth puts the word ‘great ‘before it’s name. However maybe stereotypes of nationalities are true, maybe we are thick, insular and insignificant….well given the recent debacles over building the most fundalmental and basic of things that a modern society require.GregF
ParticipantWell done to the Judge , what an enlightened and cultured man………let’s hope this paves the way for the likes of the Utopia porno shop in Capel Street and that it expands and buys up Clery’s. We need a few more arcades there too, by the way, and a Man Utd or Liverpool FC shop. How about a drug rehabilatation centre as well as a few more Euro shops. That vacant site at the Carlton could be used as a scrapyard or a halting site………will they ever take those bloody stupid hoardings down so as the boys and girls can use it as a congregation hedge school for cider drinking. Forget about the Spire…that big hole they dug could be used as one big piss/shit hole for passers by, maybe preferably at night when everyone is sloshed and gunning for a fight…..Tourists can take part too. What a classy joint it would be eh. …and fuck all that O’Connell Street rejuvenation shit……the boys could use those auld trees for fire wood too…..as well as the crustys could make use of them as tree houses. Robinson Crusoe, Huckleberry Finn stuff on Ireland’s main thoroughfare. Classy eh!….what a great place.
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ParticipantDoh……….did we ever do anything of note then……..Ok Newgrange but those people are a million miles away from us today…..the Vikings founded Dublin, the Normans built the fine Castles, the Brits built the cities……………..probably the Spire is being constructed and erected by a Brit firm too. Ah I suppose we always have Sam Stephenson to our credit and and all the wonderful things he did …..at Woodquay, Fitzwilliam St, etc…..
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ParticipantI knew about the link between Leinster House and the White House, but is the latter really true.
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ParticipantThis could be a great feat of Irish engineering…….never seen since the days when they built Ardnacrusha.
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ParticipantIt’s the same malarky for the National Stadium is ‘nt it.
It is only when all these projects are built; when international events are staged, when the crowds flock to them; when the profile of the country is raised on the international stage; that the penny drops and cloth headed people can see how beneficial such things can be.
Curse the government and the tight arsed money bags.GregF
ParticipantThis is a joke now folks …….may as well bury the idea of an NCC…….No way would McCreevy fund this now….Optimism is dead…..Our brief years of the boom and we have nothing of architectural significance to show…….unlike other cities…..We remain and always will remain an insignificant provincial British city…Man Utd, Eastenders…etc…..Even Bono and his tower can’t redeem it or us.
I would have gone with Roche’s proposal down the docks ….would have complemented Calatrava’s bridge …(that’s if it goes ahead too). Would have been a good contrast too against Scott Tallon Walkers mundane more of the same monopoly on architectural design here too. Alas…… alas…..no more……what an insignificant morass for an insignificant city. Boo hoo….I remember the years of optimism when everything looked so good….when we hosted the MTV music awards ….It looked all so promising.Here’s to auld Paddy Crosby…..at least he does something for his native Dublin unlike most. Maybe another lifetime!
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ParticipantThe Spencer Dock scheme is only a fragment of the overall Dublin Docks development….see it on the map. It’s American Corporate style aka campus style layout as it was called would have been a breath of fresh air in what the overall scheme is turning out to be…which is what could be described as boring now.
To describe it as a breath of fresh air says a lot for what is going on overall their now….the European role model’s poorer cousin.
Why cannot Dublin be interesting from near and afar?(Jesus I could forsee all this happening such is our conservatism and fear.)
Anyone agree in a way at all?
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ParticipantIrish Disneyland comes to New York.
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ParticipantAh tis awful is’nt it …..I remember the hecklers were out in force against Roche’s plan (Hiding under their beds now biting their tongues are they?)
There was first of all our ‘Taoiseach’ B…B….Bertie who called it a monstrosity. A scheme that could have been a major financial anchor for the city of Dublin aka Canary Wharf, sure then again the poor man is feeble minded when it comes to the arts (and sports too) and to have a finance minister like McCreevy, well there’s poor judgement. There was ‘D. Desmond’, that cavalier buccanneer and savior of working class Dubs who spends most of his life and money abroad so as his does’nt have to pay tax in dear auld Eire, There was the ‘O’ Connell Street Tree Brigade’ too aka the Greens & Co and Dubs Joe & Josaphine Public who could’nt tell you where the National Gallery was…….but know what is going on in Coronation Street or how Man Utd are doing.
Roches plan would have been more interesting to say the least than the ‘more of the same’ featureless monotony that we are getting now.
At least with the Roche scheme the aspirations were higher, and it could have been modified too.
Saw on the news last night a report on it, what a rip off, E300,000 for a shoebox appartment with crappy views. What pretentious mug’s too that are to invest in such an atrocious scheme thinking it’s the Bees Nees.What a shit website too, (images from a Photodisk book no doubt): there are no images of the proposed architecture, and they have an awful pile of horizontal shite in the spot where Roches NCC was to go, at least his glass tumbola block was more eye catching than the STW heap that is going their next to Calatrava’s bridge. Another major fuck up by the stupid shortsighted Irish people. Let the demolition balls swing circa 20 years time. Newcastle looks a far better city.
STW, Scott Tallon & Walker = SAW, Stock Aikan & Watermann of Irish architecture….what boring c**ts…..ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and the DDDA too. Fuck it.
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ParticipantNo need to worry folks, I believe the plan will progress as what was proposed, the old trees will be removed and new ones planted all under the un-noticing eye of the unconcerned general public. Sure when it is all done and the new trees planted (each new tree will be up to 20 years old when planted) and it all becomes established within a few months to a year, no one will bat an eyelid and will wonder what was all the fuss about……but that’s if they can even remember.
November 12, 2002 at 10:46 am in reply to: We need tall buildings in Dublin and we need them now! #722643GregF
ParticipantSee Bono and the boys are proposing to build a state of the art recording studio down the docks in the guise of a landmark tower construction. Here’s to the best Rock n’ Roll band in the world today…..U2!
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ParticipantYeah……there are probably more rats than people living under the streets of Dublin ……..but the way mental illnesss and alcoholism and broken homes aka disfunctional families affect us poor Irish (is that some sort of a jibe), maybe you had the streets of Brazil in mind….where the police shoot dead homeless children such is the epidemic of homelessness.
To counteract rats, get a few Cats….they are great pets …..Bastet …..Egyptian cat Godess.GregF
ParticipantDave R is obviously a devout Green Party supporter and he does’nt like what has been said here because it conflicts with the party’s policy, which is at the moment get as much publicity as one can for the party by making a mountain out of a mole hill, in this case jeopardize the multi million Euro upgrade of O’ Connell Street. I’d recommend reading a few architecture books etc Dave before you spew off. I happen to be an artist not an architect but I have a great love of dear aul’ battered Dublin, the capital city of Ireland.
I think that you are naive and do not really understand.
When the O’Connell Street scheme is complete and the new trees are blossoming in all their glory hopefully the penny will finally drop and it will finally register with you Dave R. But a playstation pseudo prolateriat aka middle class mind finds such things difficult.- AuthorPosts